A couple of questions for Dr. Lucas, Gideon, Eva, Corinne, Magdalene, Christopher & Marriage

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Both Elizabeth Vidal and Monica Stanton (Monica Barker at the time) appear to have used the power of money to make sure no one ended up getting criminally charged. Which is wrong, but we know the power money can exert. For both women, the main motive was to make sure the accusations never reached the arrest level (and thus became public). Both were trying to keep the situations secret. The only main difference is Elizabeth refused to believe the accusations were true, while Monica knew they were true but never wanted them public.

 

I fault Monica in many ways for handling things in a way that ended up not protecting Eva. Sure, Monica got a total of $7 million dollars ($5 million of that for Eva herself) in order to make sure there was enough money to have the financial security of protecting Eva. Monica's biggest flaw is equating wealth with protection.

 

Had she not stood in the way of Nathan being prosecuted, he might still be in prison. Sure, he was still a teen-ager at the time, but by the end of the rapes was old enough to be charged as an adult. He was two years older than Eva, so when she miscarried at age 14, he was 16. I gather from the story she's around 25 years old now. He could still have been in prison for child rape eleven years later.

 

Monica failed again when Nathan showed up in New York. She and Stanton continued to try to conspire to hush everything up, by at least considering paying the blackmail in return for Nathan going away. Monica told Eva, after Nathan died, "That's why Richard decided it would be best to just pay him what he wanted. Nathan said he'd stay away from you as long as he had the money to leave the country."

 

Keeping Eva in the dark put her in terrible danger. Nathan wanted more than money. He was after Eva, stalking her, building up to likely raping and then killing her. And because Cary didn't know either, he almost ended up dead - Nathan beat him with a baseball bat to the point where Cary ended up in the hospital with a skull fracture, concussion, broken ribs and a broken arm.

 

Of course, Gideon was at fault too exactly the way Monica was - keeping Eva in the dark that Nathan was in New York. Rather than protecting her by telling her the truth and going to the police (about the blackmail, and if those pictures are of her being raped as a girl, sexually-explicit images of a child) so he could go to prison, Gideon decided to use money/power to quietly put her under physical protection. When he realized Nathan was way too dangerous (because of Cary) Gideon still didn't go to the police. He took matters into his own hands.

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Hi LN Cronan, Do you think that maybe Monica didn't alert Eva about seeing Nathan outside the Crossfire Building because somewhere along the line she decided that she was going to deal with the problem? Maybe Monica had been harbouring resentment over what Nathan did to her daughter and then seeing Nathan solidified that hatred. Monica was going to do the only thing that she could do...she was going to kill the man who repeatedly hurt her child. So there would be no reason for Monica to inform Eva about Nathan. She was going to eliminate the threat herself (or most likely with some help). What do you think? What does everyone think?

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Wow LN Cronan & GiGi you ladies bring up some really interesting points I hadn't even begun to think about. First, I want to say as the daughter of doctor parents I have heard them say numerous times that the number one rule of practice is "Above all else do no harm." But, like you have both stated we are dealing with the very rich here and unfortunately the world operates on a different level for them. Having said that, is it possible Elizabeth knew both of the (and I use the term loosely) "doctors" within her social circle and asked them to discreetly examine her son? And, if so, did these "doctors" have a score to settle with Gideon's father but since he wasn't around took it out on his son? I know that's reaching way out there but Dr. Lucas was at the charity dinner so it appears he more than likely socialized in the same circles as the Cross's - just a guess?  

 

What doesn't make sense to me is the ages. I can't remember the age frame Gideon places himself at when this started but I want to say if Elizabeth was pregnant with Ireland and we know that she's 17 & Gideon's 28 then the abuse would have started when he was about 10 or 11. Which would have made Christopher around 5 or 6 if Elizabeth got pregnant with him right after marriage - somewhere I believe Gideon says he was 5 yrs old when Elizabeth married or maybe when his dad died and if that's the case then Sylvia's math is worst than mine - and that's hard to believe. LOL. I only bring up the ages to point my finger back at Elizabeth (can you tell I can't stand her) for relying on a 5 yrs. old Christopher to set the record straight. I kinda lead myself to believe Elizabeth is half truthing Eva and covering something up. Does Gideon remember seeing two different doctors or just Dr. Lucas?

 

What's curious is what did the therapist who brought the grad student to work with Gideon have to say about all this and what did she do with this information? Apperently nothing. She should have removed the grad student just on the accusation alone b/c even if Gideon made the whole thing up, it's still a symptom of a deep issue which makes the grad student inapproapriate on both level of knowledge/experience and the child's obvious mistrust in the student.

 

I just had to pick myself up off the floor from laughing as I'm explaining to my husband all these theories (he's never read the books, but tolerates me) and how I never thought about this or that and he just deadpanned me and said, "I bet the author's never thought about all that either." LOL, and on that note I'll stop here.

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The math on Gideon's age sounds right, age 10 or 11. And while he never said how old he was at the time, he did say Christopher was 5 and his mother pregnant with Ireland when he (Gideon) was placed in therapy. The conversation happened near the end of Reflected in You when Gideon finally opened up to Eva about what happened to him.

 

Eva was 10 the first time Nathan raped her. She was 14 when she had the miscarriage. She gave those ages during the conversation in Bared To You when she first told Gideon about Nathan.

 

Pediatrician Dr. Terrance Lucas is 45 at the time of Reflected in You (Eva found his age via a Google search). Subtract 18 years and he would have been 27 at the time he had been one of the two doctors Elizabeth Vidal had examine Gideon. So he would not have been that far out of medical school. Note: Sylvia has posted that Lucas was not the doctoral student who abused Gideon. But I wonder whether the doctoral student knew Lucas from school. Purely a guess on my part, but the therapist called in might have been a psychiatrist -- that is, a medical doctor who is a specialist in mental health. What if the doctoral student also was studying to be a psychiatrist? Certain branches of specialty medicine involve advanced study beyond basic medical school.

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Lol u r not sline my family thinks im nuts too lol

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Hi Mrsmajessick, That's exactly right! Your parents swore an oath of "Non Maleficence" otherwise known as an oath to do no harm. That's why I find this entire thing just so sinister! If you have a claim of abuse you have to have a medical doctor who is completely separate from the case, to exam the child. In that way, there wouldn't be a possibility of that person being in cahoots with potential abuser, etc.. You stated that your parents are medical doctors, so if a claim of abuse came across their paths and they knew the potential victim, as a matter of potential bias, they would have to excuse themselves and the case would be referred to another person for examination. The second point is; when a child is examined for any potential physical evidence of abuse, the medical doctor can never be alone with the patient. There always has to be a nurse present! There are many reasons for establishing these protocols; it is important to establish an independent witness account of the abuse and also to prevent any further future claims of inappropriate conduct with the child. If these children were going to be physically examined, then the medical doctors would be touching their genital regions/including their rectums, etc. No doctor in his/her right mind would ever conduct that kind of exam by themselves. They could and/or should lose their license if they did. It would be considered gross malpractice. My question is; how could Elizabeth Vidal find two independent physicians and potentially their nurses (that’s 4 separate individuals) who could completely throw away their ethics and potentially their careers for money? Didn’t anyone out of this group have heart or a conscience? You also raised an interesting point about whether the doctors who examined Gideon may have been swindled by his father. What kind of sick human being would want to take out the sins of the father on the son? I would have thought that if physical evidence had been found, that these medical doctors would have contacted CPS and the police. What better way to make a human being suffer than to get CPS involved. I would think that it would be horrendously upsetting to Elizabeth Vidal if her children were taken away from her. I agree with you completely about Elizabeth's complete lack of parental concern for her child. I agree with you completely. She should have fired the entire lot of psychologists/psychiatrists/grad students, etc....whatever! The accusation alone should have terminated their services with her family. What came across from the dialogue in the book was that Elizabeth Vidal almost seemed narcissistic. She made sure that her needs were met first and foremost. Oh my goodness you are too funny! I too, have been bouncing my theories about this book (sans the naughty bits) around with a dear friend of mine. This entire situation is too hilarious! :)

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Hi LN Cronan, You make some very valid points. Is it just me or have you and everyone noticed that everyone in the book seems to be keeping secrets. 1. Gideon didn't mention it to Eva when he saw Nathan. What was his plan? 2. Monica didn't mention to Eva that she recognized Nathan in front of the Crossfire Building? Could it be that she was planning something of her own? 3. Stanton didn't mention it to Eva that Nathan was trying to extort money from him? Why? 4. I suspect that Dr. Terrance Lucas wasn't out of school yet. If kids in the U.S. graduate high school when they are 18 years old, then they would need to have four years of undergraduate studies before they can apply to medical school. Medical school is then an additional four and then any specialty is an additional 4-12years. So Dr. Lucas would have hypothetically been in his last year of medical school when the incidents with Gideon were being. Or maybe Dr. Lucas was in the process of doing his pediatric residency in school. I wonder what role Dr. Lucas played in this entire saga. Sylvia let us know that there is a lot of hatred between Gideon and Dr. Luca, but one has to wonder why? Why pick Dr. Lucas's wife to have an affair with? What Gideon did was very deliberate and I don't think that he would some random person to have a personal grudge with. Something else, more intense is going on. I suspect more might be revealed in the next book. 5. That’s what makes this forum such a great place! We have LN Cronan who has past crime reporting experience, present PR Management skills, I bring my healthcare background and experience to the table, Mrsmajessick has great mothering and life skills, Valgirl who has a great passion for the series, Crossfire who has a real no nonsense style when posting, as well as all the other ladies who have been passionately posting their thoughts/hopes/dreams and suspicions. That is what makes this such an interesting forum.

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I luv this place u guys all rock im so anxious i so love these chsracters esp gid i think they r real lol well i hoped they were lol

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I have a question. Nathan visited Gideon twice - the first time was when Eva saw Corrine outside of the Crossfire and went to Gideon's office and found the shirt she thought had lipstick on the cuff, but Sylvia's confirmed that it was blood from Gideon's confrontation with Nathan. The second time Nathan went to see Gideon was when Monica saw him coming out of the Crossfire. My question is this, if Gideon already rough him up and told him to get lost why did he go back a second time? I would think he would have been to scared to face Gideon again.

 

You bring up an interest point, GiGi, everyone treated Eva like a child and kept Nathan's appearance a secret. I think they all thought they were protecting her. It wouldn't surprise me to find out they were all plotting to kill Nathan, but Gideon beat them to the punch or should I say stab.

 

The more I think about it the more I've come to the conclusion the detective was trying to set Eva & Gideon up because they were still investigating Stanton after the detective "says" she closed the case already knowing Gideon killed Nathan, but unable to prove it.

 

There has to be a fourth book unless EWY is a 1000 pages long there's no way to tie up all the loose ends. That would be okay with me!

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GiGi wrote ----"Sylvia let us know that there is a lot of hatred between Gideon and Dr. Luca, but one has to wonder why? Why pick Dr. Lucas's wife to have an affair with? What Gideon did was very deliberate and I don't think that he would some random person to have a personal grudge with. Something else, more intense is going on."

 

 

In RIY, Gideon tells Eva when they were at the beach house in South Carolina he did it because Dr. Lucas alienated him from his family. He didn't elaborate any further than that. But, when Eva confronted Dr. Lucas she's under the impression that Dr. Lucas lied about the abuse. But, Dr. Lucas says that Gideon was never a patient of his??? If he wasn't one of the two doctors to examine Gideon then how did he alienate him from his family? I think Dr. Lucas is lying because he then goes on to tell Eva that due to patient confidentiality he can't discuss it. So was Gideon a patient or not??

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mrsm-now that I'm thinking about this, I don't think the second time Nathan was there it was to see Gideon. I'm going with Eva. Everyone seems to go to

lunch at the ad agency at 12:00. He probably couldn't get in and she wasn't there, plus she was with Megumi-the receptionist. Later that night she asks Gideon to review the tapes from outside the building because something frightened her mom. I think when Gideon does he sees it was Nathan and the wheels start turning-maybe he starts to formulate a plan. I don't know-so much surmising-so little time-wait-we've got a lot of time! Until June 4th!!!!!

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Hi LN Cronan, I just wanted to say that I made a mistake. I can't seem to find the posting where you mentioned that you thought that Nathan was a psychopath. I confused psychopath with sociopath. Sorry, this isn't my area of study...or even close to my neighbourhood...:)). According to the DSM IV(diagnostic and Statistical Manual used by psychiatrists, etc.)I think Nathan exhibits both sociopathic and psychopathic traits. Sociopaths are seen as disorganized and rash, making extreme responses to normal situations. They lack impulse control. Psychopaths, by contrast, are highly organized, often secretly planning out and fantasizing about their acts in great detail before actually committing them, and sometimes manipulating people around them. 1. Nathan went to Crossfire to potentially extort money from Gideon but got into a fight and wound up on the loosing end (an arguement for organized behaviour that quickly deescalated). 2. Nathan goes back to Crossfire on the day that Eva's mother saw him (potentially to see Eva...is that organized or disorganized?). 3. Nathan was raping and torturing Eva for several years before Eva couldn't take anymore. He then broke the cat's neck in an attempt to keep her in line. I argue that the rape and torture was organized and controlled but the breaking of the cat's neck was a disorganized attempt to keep control over Eva. Ultimately it didn't work. I don't know....if this keeps up, I am going to need therapy with all these analyses. Oh June please come soon! :)

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Hi Mrsmajessick, Great point! How did Dr. Lucas alienate Gideon from his family? Like you said, if he wasn't a patient then his connection to Gideon doesn't make sense. According to my math, Dr. Lucas would have still been in school, studying his specialty, so why would he have been out at the Vidal Estate and/or why would Elizabeth Vidal seek the advise of the residency student/graduate student over that of a highly experienced professional? Elizabeth Vidal could afford the very best care for her child. My math may be wrong about the length of time people spend in medical school in the U.S., but somehow I don't think the length of time people spend in medical/grad school and residency are all that different from Canada and the U.S. So what's the deal?

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mrsm-now that I'm thinking about this, I don't think the second time Nathan was there it was to see Gideon. I'm going with Eva. Everyone seems to go to

lunch at the ad agency at 12:00. He probably couldn't get in and she wasn't there, plus she was with Megumi-the receptionist. Later that night she asks Gideon to review the tapes from outside the building because something frightened her mom. I think when Gideon does he sees it was Nathan and the wheels start turning-maybe he starts to formulate a plan. I don't know-so much surmising-so little time-wait-we've got a lot of time! Until June 4th!!!!!

 

Hi Azmich,

What do you think Nathan was hoping to get from Eva? He hadn't had any contact with her for years. Nathan's father and Eva's mother made sure of that.

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mrsm-now that I'm thinking about this, I don't think the second time Nathan was there it was to see Gideon. I'm going with Eva. Everyone seems to go to

lunch at the ad agency at 12:00. He probably couldn't get in and she wasn't there, plus she was with Megumi-the receptionist. Later that night she asks Gideon to review the tapes from outside the building because something frightened her mom. I think when Gideon does he sees it was Nathan and the wheels start turning-maybe he starts to formulate a plan. I don't know-so much surmising-so little time-wait-we've got a lot of time! Until June 4th!!!!!

 

Interesting theory, azmich! Maybe to increase the pressure on Gideon and Stanton, both of whom Nathan was trying to blackmail, maybe Nathan was trying to see Eva this time and to make sure Gideon knew it. Nathan would have figured out, because he was stalking her, that she had no clue he was in town.

 

Here's the stuff we definitely know about Nathan at Crossfire, between what is contained in Reflected in You plus additional material Sylvia has given fans in response to spoiler questions:

  1. It was lunchtime both times (that we know of) Nathan showed up at the Crossfire.
  2. The first time, Nathan did meet with Gideon in his office, and a fistfight ensued.
  3. The first time, Gideon last-minute cancelled a lunch meeting he had scheduled off premises (Angus had been waiting downstairs to drive Gideon to his meeting.)
  4. Both times, Eva happened to be out of the building at lunch.
  5. The second time, Eva's mother plus the Stantons' driver/bodyguard Clancy, spotted Nathan on the sidewalk outside the Crossfire.
  6. Eva, curious about what badly spooked her mother, asked Gideon if it was possible to look at security footage to try to figure out what it was Monica saw. Gideon promised he would.

A few additional things we know (between the book and what Sylvia has posted.)

  1. The hotel where Nathan stayed (and where he died) was owned by a Cross Industries subsidiary.
  2. The security cameras in that hotel had been down for an upgrade that had been in the works for months.
  3. Eva and Gideon were away on the weekend trip to North Carolina when Nathan beat Cary half to death.
  4. Gideon found out it was Nathan very soon after he and Eva arrived back home Sunday night.
  5. It was at that point Gideon felt the danger level was too high, and he set in motion the plan to kill Nathan to save Eva's life. 
  6. It was sometime Monday morning Gideon started his act of cutting off Eva. He quit calling/texting her cell and stopped showing up at the hospital, where she was staying by Cary's side. And he took Corrine to dinner Monday night, making sure a photographer got a picture of them together.
  7. Prior to Monday, he hadn't been pulling away from Eva. The North Carolina romantic weekend away was not part of the plan (i.e he didn't take her away to lessen the blow of what would happen next.)
  8. Eva called Gideon at home Tuesday night. At the time, he was meeting with his security people there, so he cut the call off almost immediately, but not before Eva figured out he wasn't alone.

Throwing out some questions for discussion:

 

  1. After that first meeting at Crossfire, did Gideon put up Nathan at his hotel as a means to keep him under close watch?
  2. Did Gideon pick that hotel so that there wouldn't be any security footage of Nathan being there?
  3. Had Gideon been secretly been meeting with Nathan there?
  4. When Nathan showed up the second time at the Crossfire, did he see Monica Stanton outside on the sidewalk? Did he also spot her driver/bodyguard?
  5. Did Nathan ever even enter the Crossfire that second time to ask for Gideon and/or Eva? Or did he simply take off instead?
  6. If he never did enter the Crossfire the second time, did Gideon know at the time he was out on the sidewalk? Or was it Eva asking about security footage that led to Gideon finding out Nathan had appeared?
  7. What had Gideon been planning to do about Nathan prior to the attack on Cary? Was he planning to ultimately kill him even then? Or did he have something else in mind, but rejected that plan once Eva's life was in danger?
  8. How much did Angus know? How much did Gideon's security people know?

Begging Sylvia to jump in here with spoiler-question answers about one or more of the questions above :)

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Wow LN Cronan, you've done your homework! Lol.

I'd think that Nathan was outside of the Crossfire the second time b/c Gideon would have told security to not let him in again. Maybe to see Eva b.c Gideon and Stanton weren't giving in to his demands. Could you imagine if Eva ran into him in an elevator? I'm sure Gideon wouldn't want that to happen. Eva never follows up on the video again after asking Gideon about it. Wonder why? She just forgot?


Also, is it a coincidence that Gideon took Corrine to Tableau One that Mon to be photographed? Is it b/c he hasn't spoken to Arnoldo since that Fri. and maybe he needs him to think that he and Eva are over too? B/c of all the places to take her, he takes her to his friend’s restaurant after all that mess after the concert.



 

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Wow LN Cronan, you've done your homework! Lol.

 

I'd think that Nathan was outside of the Crossfire the second time b/c Gideon would have told security to not let him in again. Maybe to see Eva b.c Gideon and Stanton weren't giving in to his demands. Could you imagine if Eva ran into him in an elevator? I'm sure Gideon wouldn't want that to happen. Eva never follows up on the video again after asking Gideon about it. Wonder why? She just forgot?

 

Also, is it a coincidence that Gideon took Corrine to Tableau One that Mon to be photographed? Is it b/c he hasn't spoken to Arnoldo since that Fri. and maybe he needs him to think that he and Eva are over too? B/c of all the places to take her, he takes her to his friend’s restaurant after all that mess after the concert.

 

 

 

Sylvia's said repeatedly that Gideon does everything for a reason. I'm certain he picked Tableau One to help bolster his ruse he was finished with Eva. His good friend who owns the restaurant, Arnoldo, witnessed the entire fistfight Gideon had with Brett on Friday night. What Eva did, kissing another man, certainly was motive for Gideon to wash his hands of her. And Arnoldo justifiably was furious with Eva. Arnoldo was the perfect choice for someone to gossip "Good riddance to that Eva woman."

 

I wonder whether Gideon even called Arnoldo later Friday night, after the brawl was over, but I'm guessing not. Because within the hour, Gideon and Eva had their sex-fueled fight in his limo and immediately left for North Carolina, where Gideon stayed totally out of contact with the outside world the entire weekend. They got back Sunday night, immediately found out about Cary, and went straight to the hospital late that night.

 

So now it's Monday. In the morning, Gideon stopped calling/texting Eva's cell phone, our first evidence of exactly when he began distancing himself from her. On Monday night, I'll bet Arnoldo was not surprised to see Corrine instead of Eva. Because he is a close friend, he'll have known who Corrine is and what she used to mean to Gideon. And that they were still good friends. And that she was getting divorced and had moved back to New York. If Gideon were to turn to any female friend after what happened late Friday night, Corrine is the logical choice. 

 

I'm sure Arnoldo would have asked his friend what was going on. What I wonder is how did Gideon answer. Did he feed Arnoldo lies? Or did he refuse to talk about it, instead retreating behind his mask and let Arnoldo make all the wrong assumptions. My guess is the latter. Gideon's usual M.O. is to clam up and refuse to answer questions. Besides, if he told Arnoldo lies that he wanted Corrine back, Arnoldo likely would have repeated that to Corrine sooner or later. And I can't see Gideon telling a lie like that to Corrine nor allowing a lie like that to get back to her second-hand.

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Just want you all to know that I look forward each day to reading your insights..

 

Amazing!

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I doubt Gideon said anymore than he was just having dinner with Corinne to Arnoldo and letting him make of that whatever he wanted to in light of what he witnessed between Gideon & Eva after the concert. Gideon doesn't strike me as someone who lies to his friends other than maybe withholding which could be a form of lying by omission I suppose.

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mrsm-now that I'm thinking about this, I don't think the second time Nathan was there it was to see Gideon. I'm going with Eva. Everyone seems to go to

lunch at the ad agency at 12:00. He probably couldn't get in and she wasn't there, plus she was with Megumi-the receptionist. Later that night she asks Gideon to review the tapes from outside the building because something frightened her mom. I think when Gideon does he sees it was Nathan and the wheels start turning-maybe he starts to formulate a plan. I don't know-so much surmising-so little time-wait-we've got a lot of time! Until June 4th!!!!!

 

That's what I thought at first, but Gideon would have security all over that place to be on the look out for Nathan after that first visit. I'm pretty sure Gideon probably had security show him out to make sure he didn't make any stops to try and see Eva after that first visit too. That's why it interest me why he would return a second time, knowing that there's no way Gideon or his security wouldn't be watching like a hawk. Even Eva says there's no way Nathan would come to see her at her job with all the people and security around. That guy wouldn't want to get caught or face Gideon again - he preys on the weak (child Eva) and unsuspecting (hitting Cary from behind). But, maybe he's dumb enough to think he could sneak pass security. 

 

No doubt when Gideon was meeting with his personal security after Cary's attack he was putting them on alert to watch out for Nathan for Eva's protection. I believe more than just Angus in the car was following her around. There were probably security guys also camped outside her building every night too. And there were probably men following Nathan as well to see where he was going and who he was contacting.

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Omg im going through withdrawels here i miss my gideon i luv all ur ? And theories i look forward everyday and as fae as gid tell arnaldo i dont think he said anything just went there for diner snd i have to admit it bothers me to no end he chose corrine i hste her i want gid to fight with her and cut all ties hopefully it will happen

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Hi Everyone, I agree with everybody about the Arnoldo thing. I don’t think that Gideon would have said anything about Corinne to him. I think he would have left Arnoldo to come to his own conclusions and thereby absolve Gideon of outright lying to his friend.

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Hi LNCronan, 1. After that first meeting at Crossfire, did Gideon put up Nathan at his hotel as a means to keep him under close watch? Had Gideon been secretly been meeting with Nathan there? My response to this is no way! Let’s think about this for a minute. Nathan has just gotten into a fist fight with Gideon and lost. Do you think that anyone in their right mind would say; “Hey I know you just beat the crap out of me, but yes I would love to stay at one of your hotels…free or otherwise. It would be perfect so then you could have access to me and come beat me up whenever you want. Yea! Not!†I think that Nathan chose a location close to Crossfire and I would like to say that it was coincidence but nothing Sylvia does is coincidence. We just need a little more information to connect the dots. As a result I don’t think that Gideon was having meetings with Nathan in his hotel room. I don’t think that Nathan would have entertained the notion of meeting with someone in a private location where he could be hurt and wouldn’t have the ability to protect himself of get help. In that way, I think that Nathan was organized. I don’t think that he would purposely put himself in harm’s way (Gideon’s way).

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Hi Everyone,

I agree with everybody about the Arnoldo thing. I don’t think that Gideon would have said anything about Corinne to him. I think he would have left Arnoldo to come to his own conclusions and thereby absolve Gideon of outright lying to his friend.

 

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 Hi Everyone,

Lets try this once more. Oh please work!

2. Did Gideon pick that hotel so that there wouldn't be any security footage of Nathan being there?

I think Nathan was already staying at one of Gideon’s hotels unbeknown to him and when he found out that Nathan was in town, he began to investigate Nathan’s whereabouts. I want to say that it was a happy coincidence but we all know that doesn’t happen in Sylvia’s world.

3. When Nathan showed up the second time at the Crossfire, did he see Monica Stanton outside on the sidewalk? Did he also spot her driver/bodyguard?

I think when Nathan left the Crossfire building the second time; I don’t think that he was Monica or her security team. Clancy would have most likely been sitting in the car waiting for the ladies to finish their lunch. There would be no reason for a chauffeur to be standing outside of his car for an hour or forty five minutes. When chauffeurs are waiting for their clients, they usually wait inside of their cars until they see or are informed that they clients are on the way/or making their way towards the limousine. I think that the book supports this theory because Nathan didn’t try to make another attempt at extorting Monica or Stanton again.

If Nathan were on his way to the Crossfire building a second time, he would have been looking for trouble. If Eva was his intended target then, seeing Monica would have given him the full advantage. Nathan would have had the element of surprise if he were going to attack. What better way to scare all intended parties then to signal or announce or make some motion or gesture to the intended victims than to say “Hey ladies I see you, I can find you anywhere and I can come at you anytime that I wantâ€. Nathan didn’t do any of those things and that’s why I don’t think he saw them. I don’t that Nathan could have resisted the opportunity to torture Monica and Eva psychologically. In some ways Nathan appears to be controlled but in other ways, he’s not controlled at all. I think that’s what leads to his downfall ultimately.

4. Did Nathan ever even enter the Crossfire that second time to ask for Gideon and/or Eva? Or did he simply take off instead?

I don’t think that Nathan would have been allowed access to Crossfire a second. Let’s think about this for a second. Gideon is obsessed with Eva’s safety. There is no blessed loving way that Gideon would ever entertain the thought of Nathan even having the opportunity to gain access to Eva. One of the earlier postings asked just the same thing; “Imagine Nathan being in the same elevator as Eva.†Given everything that we know about Gideon and his character, do you think that is even remotely a possibility? I say no! I don’t believe that Gideon would use Eva as bait to lure out Nathan.

I think that Nathan walked up to the Crossfire Building and tried to gain access but was refused entry into the building and then subsequently escorted off the premises (if he managed to get into the lobby). Maybe Nathan loitered around the building for a while, hoping to see Gideon or Eva but eventually gave up and started walking back to the hotel. Who knows?

5. If he never did enter the Crossfire the second time, did Gideon know at the time he was out on the sidewalk? Or was it Eva asking about security footage that led to Gideon finding out Nathan had appeared?

I am not sure if Gideon knew immediately or whether Eva’s question clued him in to the fact that Eva was now becoming aware that there was a problem. I suspect not. I think that if Gideon knew about Nathan loitering around the Crossfire Building, I am not sure that he would have shown Eva the footage. Everyone had been so secretive with Eva thus far, that I don’t think he would want to freak her out. It was obvious that he and several others were trying deal with the Nathan matter behind the scenes. No one saw it fit to inform Eva about the danger to her life. Everyone was going to rescue her without her even knowing it.

6. What had Gideon been planning to do about Nathan prior to the attack on Cary? Was he planning to ultimately kill him even then? Or did he have something else in mind, but rejected that plan once Eva's life was in danger?

Those are all good questions and who knows? I don’t think that there is enough information for me to speculate. Sylvia didn’t write anything in her books to give me a clue as to what was lurking around in his mind. ïŠ

For the record I am going to state again that I don’t think that Gideon killed Nathan. I think he allowed Eva to think that to spare her from further suffering in knowing that her mother killed Nathan. It seems that Eva acts more like a mother toward Monica then Monica does toward Eva. I think that it would break her heart knowing that her mom killed her stepbrother in an attempt to save her life and avenge her wrong doings. If you read the way Eva describes the whole situation with Nathan, it is almost as if Eva feels guilty about being raped and causing trouble for her mother in that way. The situation appears very dysfunctional from my perspective. What does everyone else think?

7. How much did Angus know? How much did Gideon's security people know?

I think Angus and Gideon’s security team knew exactly what he wanted them to know and nothing more. It seems that everyone in Gideon’s world knows exactly what he wants them to know and nothing more. Other than the few occasions that Eva had speaking with Angus, this reader isn’t left with a feeling that Angus is an integral part of the plot to cover up a murder.

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