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7 hours ago, Lou1974 said:

Gideon would have been around 12 when he was abused. He said they started seeing a therapist when Christopher was 5, and he is around 6/7 years older than Christopher Jr. He also said the abuse lasted for a year. I fully believe Christopher was abused also, but being so young he might not remember. The issue of   Elizabeth telling Chris, and Gideon saying the discussed it over dinner. I think Elizabeth probably said something like "I took Gideon to the doctor" and that was it.   

This could totally be far fetched, but if Christopher was always emulating Gideon, but also had jealousy issues, could it be that when they were both being abused (and I do believe it was both of them) that Gideon was getting more attention from Hugh and that too made Christopher angry.  We know that what Hugh was "teaching" Gideon was things of a more mature nature,  assuming that wasn't what he was teaching Christopher since he was so much younger.  Could it be that by Christopher denying it, he was also getting back at Gideon for once again getting more attention (from Hugh this time) and this was yet another way to act out, by discrediting Gideon's claim.  Also at the age of 5 maybe Christopher wasn't really self-aware enough to know that what Hugh was doing, wasn't appropriate.  At the present time, possibly part of Christopher's anger towards Gideon is the repressed feelings, maybe even guilt, of holding this secret in for all these years and knowing that Gideon spoke up and he never could.  

I am a bit confused, so please accept my apology, however it seems like some people on here seem upset that we are just hearing about Grey and that it is being released really soon.  I was THRILLED when I heard about this, I personally, really hate when we hear about an upcoming book that is months and months away.  I would rather hear about it when it is only a couple weeks or even a month away.  The waiting game is hard, but it's even harder when we do get a date and it is in the far future.  

Please explain why the quick release is such a bad thing.

Also, I think that Erica (E.L. James) and Sylvia have a good relationship and that Sylvia would want her own spotlight and allow Erica her's as well.  I wouldn't see it as a competition. 

I heard that they had to sign contracts for all 3 already so hopefully that's true. I heard Rita Ora (Mia Grey) was upset that she had only 4 lines in the movie so she might not be back though. 

 

I have refrained from commenting (too much) in here about my feelings on the movie, because frankly I have too many.  Let me preface my statement by saying that I realize that there is NO way that the movie could do the books justice, for the pure fact that each of these books was quite long and the movie is only a couple hours long.  However, one of the things that disappointed me was the lack of character development and one of my favorite characters (and I think many others) is Taylor.  He is an extremely important person in Christian's life (like Angus is to Gideon) and soon became one in Ana's also.  If I am recalling correctly, Taylor was not acknowledged much in the movie and was only in a handful of scenes.  

 

Can you imagine a Crossfire TV Show or Movie without Angus?  

I would like to know where Monica and Eva lived when she was a baby. Were they in the San Diego area and when did Monica come to New York... when she married Stanton or before this...I'm thinking an aunt or other sympathetic family member took Monica and her baby into their home in those early years ... I hope these questions get answered in OWY.

 

 

In previous threads we have discussed the question of where Monica and Eva lived when Eva was a baby.  If I recall correctly, it was agreed upon by readers that it was not in the SD (San Diego) area nor was it in NY.  When Eva first got to NY, it was a foreign place to her, she hadn't been there (assuming other than visiting her Mom and Stanton) and was just learning the area.  Many times in the 4 books she calls NY "her adopted home" and talks about not knowing her way around.

 

Also we know that when she went to college at SDSU, that she WENT there and wasn't already there.  We also know that going there got her away from Monica.  

 

However we know that Monica and Victor met (duh, they did have a baby) and the assumption is that Victor and Monica met in CA, since there is nothing that leads us to think that Victor moved and went anywhere.  We also know that growing up, Eva and Victor didn't have a close, in proximity or in visitation, relationship to each other.  So I am assuming that they lived either somewhere else in CA or maybe somewhere else on the westcoast.

- She is in her 40's

- She has been married 3 times

- She has one child

- She came from money

As I am re-listening to the book, a few questions came to me today and I wanted to bring them up.

 

-Why was Brett back in NY when he and Eva met at Bryant park?  Was it because of the re-shooting that needed to be done.  Eva realized that the band was on tour and in order for Brett to be in NY it had to be band related.

 

-Since Ann Lucas was not on the guest list the night of the party when she approached Eva, it was presummed that she was someone's plus one.  Do you think that there is any way that she would have been Elizabeth Vidal's guest that night?

 

-Why is Ann so mad at Gideon?  When he goes to her office to confront her, she just seems downright spiteful and full of hatred.  It can't be because of their relationship, because she didn't lose anything (namely her Husband) from it.  So what is her deal?

Great to hear from you again ShazScott....Initially I hated the new narrator's voice I especially do not like when he does Eva's voice. I still love Jill's rendition of Gideon's voice and I love all the accents ...Angus and Manuel and Arnoldo... I like Mr. York's voice in the very dramatic parts but I still like Jill's the best. Maybe it is because I am so used to her. Love the elevator scene in Audible...I think its the best scene in all 4 books so far.

 

Sscrph,  You did a great job explaining.  I did enjoy Jeremy, but his voice (being a man obviously) is so much different than Jill's and I am use to the Jill's Eva, Jill's Gideon and Jill's everyone else.  It was hard getting use to Jeremy's voice and hearing him narrate the book, but thankfully it didn't take anything away from enjoying the book.  

I have been thinking a lot about Corrinne and the book.  As I listened to and read the sit down that she and Gideon had at Tableau One, someone kept hitting me.  I don't think that Corrinne neccesarily wants her diary and whatever else she wrote, to be turned into a book.  What she wants is Gideon to read it and remember "their love," and to get closure.  By getting published, it doesn't guarantee that Gideon or Eva will ever read it.  The smarter thing, if her true goal is for Gideon to read it, would be to take his offer pending that he actually reads the book. 

 

If she really is a private person, why would she open herself up, knowing that is a chance her might just have Arash or someone else read it to fact check the book.

Clancy is married.  I don't think his affection for Eva is anything more than protector.  He knows what Nathan did to her.  Also he is feeling guilty because he dropped the ball and didn't pay attention to Cary which led to Cary being almost beaten to death.  When Eva asked him how far he would go to protect his family he said he would do anything.  Like Angus, I think Clancy is more than an employee.  He is more like family.

 

Sharon,

 

Sorry that I didn't make my comment/question clearer.  I do realize that Clancy is married, I was thinking more of a child like care than romantic.  What I was trying to get to the bottom of whether Clancy's feelings of care for were because it is his "job" since she is Stanton's step-daughter or was he doing it because he himself cares, maybe even loves (like a child) Eva.  I agree that he probably does feel guilt for what happened to Cary.  As far as I am concerned Angus is a HUGE reason Gideon is the man that he is, I love how dedicated both Clancy and Angus are to their respective jobs and I think the families that they work for know how lucky they are to have such strong men.

Hi,

 

I finally finished reading CBY but I am still listening to it.  I just read/skimmed (PHEW) through everything posted and thought a lot about what everyone said.  I have a few thoughts/questions myself. 

 

-I loved hearing about Gideon's love and admiration for his Father, that was truly touching and humanizing.

 

-Ireland was a bright spot in this book, I loved how she turned to Gideon at times when she needed him, I loved that she harassed and teased him, but mostly I love that she loved him for him.  He hasn't has much of any part of the last 17 years of her life, but it shows the kind heart that she does have, to just except him and to teach him how to be a brother.  It also shows Gideon's true heart that he is opening himself up to her and allowing himself to love someone, especially a family member.

 

-I have a huge amount of respect for Chris, like someone else said, he never questioned what Eva told him, he believed her immediately. I do not believe for one moment that he had any prior knowledge of the abuse.  He and Gideon have seemed to always get along and have a mutual respect for each other.  Where I am confused about, is why did he leave Elizabeth?  I think that staying together, he could help educate Elizabeth and help her heal herself and her relationship with Gideon.  I have always felt that the reason that Elizabeth believed Dr. T Lucas and never dealt with the reality of Gideon's abuse was because she was hurting too much and knowing that she allowed this to happen to her son was too much to accept and handle.  I think that Chris could do AMAZING things and I felt disappointed that he walked away from her.

 

-As for Magdalene and Corrine, I loved the Maggie we are seeing now.  She seems more mature, more settled, more confident and happier.  I really hope that she and Eva continue to grow closer, it means a lot to Gideon and I think she can be a wonderful friend and confidant for the two of them.  As for Corrine, she makes me sad.  I am still confused if she is or is no getting a divorce.  I also don't know what her book would be about, she and Gideon dated in college, from what we know their relationship was one of convenience and timing.  If I understand correctly, the only "kinky" encounters Gideon had (prior to Eva) was with Anne, so Corrine has nothing seething and dirty to report, again they were college students.

 

-I was disappointed in Gideon when he commented to himself, something along the lines, of waiting or hoping that Eva will realize that Cary is not good for her.  Whether Gideon likes or gets along with Cary or not, he knows the importance that Cary plays in Eva's life.  He knows that Cary is like her brother, I have commented in here before that I am not sure Cary is always the best friend to Eva and I still believe that, however friends are there for the long haul, just like every relationship there are good and bad times.

 

-When Gideon went to restaurant to talk to Clancy, it made me wonder about Clancy and his feelings/relationship with Eva.  Is Clancy looking after Eva because Stanton told him to and it is job?  Is Clancy looking after Eva for Monica, knowing that Monica is Stanton's heart? OR is Clancy looking after Eva for himself?  From the moment we met Clancy, we could tell that he had a soft spot for Eva, he defended her many times and the two of them seemed to have a special relationship.

 

-Lastly, I loved learning more about the people in Gideon's life.  Good, bad or indifferent, it was great seeing the people who make up his business and professional life.

Just check Audible.com...there is a male narrator, Jeremy York, who will (I am guessing) read Gideon's POV while Jill Redfield reads Eva's!  If he is as good as Jill, Captivated by You will be great to listen to.

 

This makes me a little nervous. I am one of those people that has both read and listened to this series.   I have really high hopes and hope that he does Gideon justice.  We all know how hard is when a Narrator doesn't do a book justice.  

SSCRP, I think you could be right about the party.  It seems that the previous books have all ended with a party/event, that you could be on to something there.  

This is SUPER far fetched, but I am listening to EWY getting ready for tomorrow and something just hit me.  I am listening to Brett talking about his bandmates as he, Ava and Cary are off to the Time Square video release and he mentions that Lance hooked up with a girl last time they were in town and Chris (I think that was his name) is going through some stuff.  Do you think that maybe Megumi, is the "connected" to one of the guys?  The timing seems similar and the story of the being busy and commitment phobic issues, could easily match.  Again I know this is super far fetched, but it just hit me.

I really like Arash and am looking forward to reading more about him. Something I hope gets answered is how much if anything he knows about Nathan. 

 

I agree, I really like Arash also he seems like a good friend and trusted "employee" to Gideon.  I just naturally assumed since he took care of the Pre-nup and wedding filing that he knows about Nathan.  I like Arnaldo too, but I hope he doesn't keep pressing Gideon about Ava.  I would hate for there to be an issue there.  I feel like both men know a lot about Gideon and/or his relationship with Ava, but know completely different things.

 

I am still listening to all three books again and realized that I can't think of a time when Gideon met Trey.  I know he met Tatiana (GROSS) but don't remember him meeting Trey.

 

Also, I am trying for the life of me to figure out what is going on with Megumi and am totally stumped.  I have read everyone's thoughts and tried to figure out my own, but I am coming up blank.

I am so excited to be in here and to have "new" things to discuss.  There are a few things that I want to comment one, but I will stick to just two.  One old and one new.

 

As I am re-listening (I have read and listened multiple times to the 3 books) to EWY, I am finding myself (for the 1st time) frustrated with Cary.  I know that Cary and Eva have a relationship like no other, but I can't help but be frustrated with his lack of support with Eva regarding Gideon ESPECIALLY when you consider how inconsiderate Cary is by having both Trey and Tatiana (ICK) around, often times on the same day.  Eva has yet to really trash talk either T or T and has put up with Cary's BS of juggling the both T and T.  Eva has even gone as far as to try to help him see the pros and cons of both of them and help Trey to understand Cary.  I  feel like maybe for the small things Cary isn't such a great friend as often as he should be.   I personally would hate having a roommate that is in a relationship and juggling two different people.

 

As for the new part, I am not sure I can explain this, but here goes.  Regarding Eva and needing closure with Brett, I get it.  I am married now and still part of wants a relationship with my first love.  I have NO desire to have a romantic/physical relationship with him, but part of me wants him to see/know that he didn't break me, he didn't ruin my life and that I am doing just fine without him even though he hurt me really bad.  I think for Eva, even though Brett and her had a weird kind of relationship, it still meant something to her.  She was in a difficult phase of her life, but she always cared, maybe even loved Brett and he hurt her.   Maybe for Eva the closure she needs could only come when she was with her true love, because that gave her the backbone and proof to know that what she and Brett had was real and true at the time, but it will never be what she and Gideon have.  Also maybe she needs to see Brett, be around him and allow herself to feel what she feels and prove to herself that her love for Gideon is so much more than superficial or appearance, that it is real and strong and that being around other attractive men means nothing anymore because she has the real thing now.

 

PHEW...I think I got it all out. 

The link is here, for those who want to read it.

 

http://www.penguin.com/book/captivated-by-you-by-sylvia-day/9780425273869

 

You have to clink on the blue rectangle written "Start Reading".

 

This is really surprising to be.  I cannot believe that the Publisher has released this prior to when the Author wanted it released.  I do not know much about publishing, but knowing the uproar previously.  I am surprised.

I think this picture might be my favorite.  They look so completely blissful and in a state of domesticity, where they are working together as a team.  I cannot wait to see if the redesign is the penthouse, vacation home, office or something else.

I think they must have certainly met socially at some point but never under such delicious circumstances as their babies getting married lol

 

I agree, I am sure at some point Elizabeth and Monica met Socially, but I do find it odd that they have never (as far as we know) "met" since Eva and Gideon became a couple.  I know in other posts (I am not sure the official name for the different sections) we have discussed how the two would get along, knowing how Protective and fiercely loyal Monica is to Eva and how Elizabeth (currently) cannot stand Eva.  I can only imagine that it would be quite the "meeting" between very prominate women who's polarity of Eva is so different.

 

For what it's worth, I really hope Monica gives it to Elizabeth and sets her straight.

doubt seriously if Christopher has the "balls* to engage in fisticuffs with Gideon.....and if he did, Gideon wouldn't be bruised but Christopher.

 

I agree, I think that as much anger as Christopher has for Gideon, I believe that Christopher still looks up to his brother and respects him in a way that only a younger brother can of their older brother.  When I first read the snippet and before I read other's thoughts on this board, I immediately thought that the bruises and marks on Gideon were either from his personal training sessions or maybe even a sparring session with a friend or workout partner as a way to get some aggression out.  I do not see Gideon allowing himself to get in a fight (one that would leave bruises at least), not to mention that he does have Angus who is never far away as "security."

Of course I'd rather have the actual book in my hands but, in the meantime, thank God for Teaser Tuesday!!! I think Victor is either talking to Eva just prior to walking her down the aisle OR having a heart to heart with his new son-in-law. It may even figure into his wedding toast, given the champagne flute. Can't wait until we all know for sure.

 

 

When I read the teaser, I definately read it as something that Victor was saying to Eva during a conversation.

I don't really understand the point of both books coming out at the same time. I was hoping that they would be out when I go to her signing in San Antonio at the end of July, but I guess not

 

I feel like I am missing something.  What do you mean "both books coming out at the same time?"  Was it announced that Captivated By You and the 5th book would be released together?

Interesting side bit of information - I recognized the name Arash Madani - turns out he's a sports anchor for sportsnet.ca

 

HMMM That is interesting information and the name is unique enough that I doubt it is a coincidence.  Sports Anchor though, that is interesting.  I am not quite sure how sports all fit into this.  

https://www.sylviaday.com/2014/05/11/captivated-treat-4/#.U2_W2xP5tik.twitter

 

Hello Ladies, here is the latest CBY Snippet from Sylvia

 

 

THANK YOU

Totally agree.