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If Gideon needs to keep up the act to convince the cops he left Eva to win back his former fiancé, he'll need to keep seeing Corrine in Entwined while the coast is not yet clear. That's going to be interesting. Especially now that Gideon no longer has to keep Eva completely in the dark, like he'd had to those weeks of the Nathan cover-up. He'll be able to tell her the truth.

But also now, she'll probably start becoming aware of the full extent of the public appearances he's keeping up with Corrine. And how the tabloids and the gossip sites are exploiting it, which right now is to Gideon's advantage. Remember, the story is from Eva's point of view. The last thing we know for sure were public are the pictures from the vodka party. But only because that's the last thing Eva looked it. She didn't need to see any more. And she quit torturing herself checking Google alerts any longer. She buried herself in work, threw herself into her Krav Maga classes, and when she needed to, retreated into a protective shell at home. Cried and licked her wounds.

The gossip sites must be going wild over Corrine and Gideon. Digging into their old engagement. Digging into her current divorce. Remember when he first started dating Eva and she had been torturing herself with daily Google alerts feeding all her insecurities. Her and Gideon one day. Gideon spotted outside a restaurant with Magdalene the next night. His "bevy of beautiful socialites" is how one gossip rag put it. And they had been speculating she and Cary were romantically involved too.

We know Gideon took great care to be seen with Corrine at least once near the very end of Reflected. Escorting her out of the Crossfire after 5 p.m. headed to his car (and presumably on a date from there.) He timed it for after Eva had left for the day. But unfortunately, she hadn't left the building's vicinity, so she saw them. That can't have been the only time he went out of his way recently to be escorting Corrine in public, hand at the small of her back. Especially because when they had their showdown, Corrine threw in Eva's face the fact Gideon is spending all his free time with her. Let's take the ALL with a huge grain of salt - after all, this is Corrine deliberately trying to make Eva jealous. But certainly, Gideon is spending some time with her.

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Want to know who else is probably reading some of these gossip sites? Someone who'd searched out Eva online to find out where her office is so he could show up to see her there? Brett. Currently out on concert tour. If he is reading the hot gossip to try to find out about Gideon and Eva as a couple, he'll have learned when the story first broke "Gideon Cross and Ex-Fiance Seen Together!" Just days after Gideon had caught Eva in a passionate embrace with Brett. Maybe when Brett later gave that radio interview, where he said he'd reconnected with her and wanted another chance, he already knew Gideon had (to all the world) replaced her with Corrine. So Eva's unattached. Sure, she told Brett at lunch she's in love with Gideon. But obviously if you believe the gossip sites, Gideon doesn't love her back. Right now, he's back with the woman he'd wanted to marry years ago.

Sylvia has hinted we'll see Brett again. I'll bet when the concert tour ends, he shows up in New York. And here's one more yummy theory about gossip potential. What if Gideon's brother Christopher finds out "Golden Girl" Eva is Eva Trammel. Imagine how Christopher could exploit that. Business wise, it would be a golden (pun intended) opportunity: great publicity for the single, for the band, for the Vidal Records label. Personally, it would be an outrageous way to hurt Gideon by using one of Gideon's female cast-offs. We know Christopher uses Gideon's women - just ask Magdalene. Christopher could find out from Sixth Ninths band members all about Eva's wild six months of being a groupie, sleeping with Brett anywhere any chance she could get. Then  she vanished (pulled her typical "runner"), and Brett spent years pining, wishing he could find her again. Just listen to the lyrics of "Golden." Christopher starts spreading little rumors that turn into big tabloid lies Brett got back the girl that got away, Eva, just like Gideon got back the one who got away, Corrine. Oh the yummy love triangles. The tabloids would go nuts.

 

And Gideon would just have to sit there and eat it. He's got reason, too, to still be as insecure right now about Brett as Eva had been, until the very end of Reflected, insecure about Corrine. The whole reason Eva kissed Brett was because of her insecurities about Gideon and Corrine. Gideon hoped the settled that with hours of sex in the limo. But days later, when he deliberately made Eva insecure about Corrine, Eva pulled a "runner" of sorts, went out to lunch with Brett. Thinking from Gideon's point of view, how much might he be scared Eva might get insecure again, over the act Gideon went back to Corrine. Insecure despite the fact Eva now knows Corrine is just an act. If the sight of him with Corrine drives her crazy with jealousy, especially if Corrine pulls another dirty stunt on Eva? And Brett's in town? The one glimpse we got into Gideon's head, the New Year's snippet, includes him saying to himself Eva could have anyone she wants. We know, from Eva's point of view she's made amazing progress on working out her Corrine issues. But Gideon hasn't worked out a lot of his issues yet. Now the shoe is on the other foot, Eva's hot ex chasing her and still some sort of unfinished business between them.

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Hi AMC!!! Gideon's jealousy issues are as bad as Eva's. Now that she's worked through them (well probably mostly worked through them) and is least willing to trust him, now he's got to do the same. Trust goes both ways. We've seen a snippet in which she's very suggestively danced with a stranger in a nightclub. Gideon didn't like it. But he didn't punch the guy's lights out either.

 

Christopher Jr. has been hitting on Eva from Day One, and now that she took him out to lunch (near the end of Reflected) he made clear his intentions of wanting to take her out. Brett's even clearer: he wants her back.

 

Now Eva knows Christopher is scum; she's not gonna go there. But now that Gideon and Corrine are serious again (so everyone thinks) I can see Christopher openly and aggressively trying to get Eva. Gideon ordering him "stay away from her" and Christopher laughing in his face. Even Christopher engineering somehow getting right next to Eva in a public place in Gideon's vicinity. To intervene then and there would be to risk raising a little doubt about the Gideon/Corrine cover.

 

Just spinning various ideas. But Eva has told Gideon "trust goes both ways." Now he's got to trust her out in the world as "new Eva" with the men after her.

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i think that the snippet about dancing in the club - her saying she is "dancing like a single woman" is a sign that they are still keeping the appearence of a breakup in entwined.  he's not getting jealous because he trusts her, now,

I actually got a spoiler question answer from Sylvia on this when the snippet first came out, a very brief answer, as it was on Twitter, that Gideon was learning to trust Eva. Which is different from he trusts her now. I was very careful to phrase it as "learning."

 

My exact Tweet to her had been "To me, snippet 6 shows Gideon learning to trust Eva as she needs to act she's dumped him for good. Am I warm?" Her reply: "You're hot :)"

 

The biggest problem on his side of their relationship has always been his inability to trust her. He'd never let her in, she told him in the car ride scene near the end of Reflected. And that's why she now had started to move on with her life, a life that no longer included him. It was then that out of sheer desperation that he did something dramatic to start to open up: he rolled the dice by for the very first time starting to talk his sexual abuse. He still didn't trust her then with his deepest secret of all, Nathan's murder. He hoped she never ever would find out he did it.

 

In the snippet, Gideon's face was furious with jealousy when he told the guy dirty-dancing with Eva "Get lost." But rather than hit the guy, he pinned Eva against the wall. We all know what was coming next. He was going to &%$! her in an out of the way corner of a public place (a place he happened to own.) It's the reason he went there, we learned in another snippet that revealed her calling him up 20 minutes earlier. That snippet also strongly infers he told her to party at one of his clubs. (Keep an eye on her?)

 

One other thing the snippet of Eva dancing signals to me: she's testing Gideon. The question is: consciously or subconsciously. Subconsciously, she tested their relationship when she kissed Brett. Gideon forced the answer out of her during the sex-fueled fight in the limo. Consciously, she tested him days later by taking Brett to lunch. She knew she was doing it for spite, immediate and direct retaliation for finding online pictures proving Gideon took Corrine to dinner the night before at his good friend's restaurant.

 

Eva hanging out at the club with "the girls" drinking and having a good time would accomplish fooling folks into believing she's single. Dancing on the regular dance floor with guys would do it too. Granted, Gideon told her to go meet him up on the skywalk where dancers took things further by dirty dancing. But he told her there was a hidden corner where she should wait. What does she do instead? Knowing he's within 20 minutes of arriving, she starts suggestively dancing with a stranger, keeping it up right on up to Gideon walking up to the pair of them. When she sees him approaching and knows he sees her, she grinds her hips into the guy. If that's not testing Gideon, I don't know what is.

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Remember when Gideon admitted to Eva he'd had his PR people put out the word she was the "significant woman" in his life right after he staged that photo of him kissing her on the street? He did it to publicly lay claim to her and make it clear she was off the market.

 

It is glaringly apparent to me, from the wording of what Eva read regarding the vodka party that was Gideon's alibi, that he had his PR people hand spoon exactly what info he wanted reported. Trust me, journalists can be lazy, especially near night-time deadlines.

 

"Gideon Cross, CEO of Cross Industries, and Corrine Giroux at the Kingsman Vodka publicity mixer," read the caption. And the info the article contained included the hours of the event and the location of the party. That's a press release. It was a publicity event. He'd have PR people right there. He was trying to manipulate what was reported. It worked too, beautifully. In fact, he might have had one of his own PR staff hand out that picture along with the press release. So it got reported exactly where he was at that time Thursday night, and who he was with and that there was proof in the form of a picture, one that would lead anyone to assume he and Corrine were intimate.

 

It's a huge contrast from him sitting close together with her Monday night at a front table of Tableau One, leaving himself open for candid shots. Probably had someone anonymously tip a photographer, and may also have tipped off exactly who Corrine was. It hit the gossip sites, and there were headlines like "former fiancée" online the next day.

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i don't think the biggest problem on his end is to trust her - i think his problem is possessiveness.  she is not a girl that does what she's told, and that drives him crazy.  at this point he would have plenty of reason not to trust her - she kisses ex boyfriends, sees his brother after he warned her not to, she runs away constantly.  the trust problem is all hers.

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They've both got serious trust issues. They both have a lot of issues. I think Gideon's got the deeper ones, and he's got a lot more work to do on himself. Eva is still a hot mess half the time herself. But she's worked hard for years to make progress. Gideon simply lived his life in a carefully constructed shell. Then Eva came along. She's the reason he's trying to change.

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Go onto the snippets thread. That's where I'll especially get into stuff that is practically fan fiction. I'm spinning all sorts of speculation about things the characters could do next in Entwined. And jump in with your own theories! We can amuse ourselves between now and June 4!

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You ladies have me going Gideon crazy so I had to re-order the books only this time I order them on audio.com so I can hear anything I may have missed..'

One thing I didn't catch reading was , did Eva not knowingly meet Dr Lucas wife at the advocacy center dinner.? After Gideon gave his speech and Eva stood to clap " Your a Very Fortunate Young Lady... I turned to look at the lady who spoke, a lovely REDHEAD who appeared to be in her early forties.. We're just friends...!! Her serene smile somehow manage to argue with me..!!

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Hi MrsCrossfire,

I found the passage that you were talking about. It is on page 99 of BTY. So little is said about whether Anne and Terrance Lucas's marriage survived the affair that the reader could wonder whether that was she who spoke to Eva. If their marriage didn't survive the affair I am not sure it would have made sense for Anne to be at that social event.

You have a good eye for detail. I too missed that little passage. :)

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Even if the Lucas marriage did survive the affair, she'd avoid social gatherings where there was a chance Gideon Cross would be there. That fundraiser dinner was for a women's shelter. Gideon wholeheartedly supports charities for sexually abused children (he even gave a speech at the fundraiser the night he took Eva to it as their first date.) It would make sense he'd strongly support charities for women's shelters too, because when women do seek emergency shelter, they often bring their children with them.

 

Dr. Terry Lucas is a pediatrician. My guess is professionally, he was involved with the women's shelter (perhaps doing some volunteer work tending to medical needs of children living with their mothers in the emergency shelter.) This could explain why he was at the fundraiser dinner -- not as someone there "paying for a plate" (making a contribution in return for a seat at dinner.) An alternate explanation could be he was there as a volunteer drumming up even more support by talking with the rich people about some of the things he's seen the shelter do to make a huge difference in the lives of children whose mothers finally fled with them from an abusive household.

 

Even more important is that the working conspiracy theory I have about Lucas' link to the sexual abuse of Gideon would indicate Lucas did not come from rich society. I suspect he was one of the two pediatricians who Gideon's stepfather paid to privately examine Gideon -- and was paid off to keep his mouth shut. To not report the mere suspicions to outside authorities that Lucas was legally obligated to. Perhaps even seriously bribed to lie to Elizabeth Vidal. Doing the math from Eva's Google search about Lucas' age and how long he was married, the math comes out as Lucas in his late 20s (fresh out of medical school) and newly married. If he took out student loans to pay for medical school, he's be low six figures in debt. Someone like that offered enough money to wipe out that debt would be ripe for bribery.

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I totally agree, the redhead in BTY is Anne Lucas, No other reason to describe her 'lovely redhead'.  

 

This was the 1st date disaster dinner.  And I don't think they were at the same table just close by and that Terry was probably there but not mentioned in the story at that point.  SD saved his intro until the Corrine dinner to push Eva over the edge to leave.  I think they are still married or that would have been in the Google profile.

 

It's pretty clear that Terry is one of the doctor's that Elizabeth Vidal 'consulted' and Eva confirmed this with the visit to his office, otherwise how/why could he have 'alienated' Gideon from the family.  

 

Sooooo many questions to be answered in ETY .  Can't wait :)     

 

Also .... enjoying the spirited discussion on the series !!!

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In RIY when Eva gave her house key back to Gideon she said "I thought he might have whispered something, but I didn't catch it if he did"!!!!!!!  A fan asked Sylvia Day what did Gideon say & her response was that was an EWY spoiler so I know she will elaborate on it in EWY.  Anyway as I was reading Bared To You "AGAIN" for about the 15th time, Eva said in the beginning when Gideon made her for the first time b4 the Advocacy Dinner "I thought I heard him speak hoarsely, but I lost the words.  Do you think he said the same thing both times & it will be explained in EWY and if so what do you think it was that Gideon said!  I'm thinking that he was whispering "I Love You"!  What does everyone else think?

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Hi FSUMom,

I think that may have just been Anne Lucas. Eva described the way women reacted to Gideon in Bared To You and I think that would be an interesting character twist in the book (a red herring of sorts). I think if Anne showed up at the dinner it would be a testament to the effect that Gideon has on women he dates.

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In RIY when Eva gave her house key back to Gideon she said "I thought he might have whispered something, but I didn't catch it if he did"!!!!!!!  A fan asked Sylvia Day what did Gideon say & her response was that was an EWY spoiler so I know she will elaborate on it in EWY.  Anyway as I was reading Bared To You "AGAIN" for about the 15th time, Eva said in the beginning when Gideon made her for the first time b4 the Advocacy Dinner "I thought I heard him speak hoarsely, but I lost the words.  Do you think he said the same thing both times & it will be explained in EWY and if so what do you think it was that Gideon said!  I'm thinking that he was whispering "I Love You"!  What does everyone else think?

 

Hi Shycharm,

I think that Gideon may very well have whispered that he loves Eva. I could totally see him whispering that because he was afraid to say it out loud. Fingers crossed! I hope so. :)

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In RIY when Eva gave her house key back to Gideon she said "I thought he might have whispered something, but I didn't catch it if he did"!!!!!!!  A fan asked Sylvia Day what did Gideon say & her response was that was an EWY spoiler so I know she will elaborate on it in EWY.  Anyway as I was reading Bared To You "AGAIN" for about the 15th time, Eva said in the beginning when Gideon made her for the first time b4 the Advocacy Dinner "I thought I heard him speak hoarsely, but I lost the words.  Do you think he said the same thing both times & it will be explained in EWY and if so what do you think it was that Gideon said!  I'm thinking that he was whispering "I Love You"!  What does everyone else think?

 

I think you're right Shycharn -- Gideon hoarsely said "I love you" to Eva in the middle of them making love their first time in the limo, words she didn't catch at the time.

 

Sylvia has hinted Gideon used the L-word too low for Eva to catch when Eva gave Gideon back her house key. At the time, Eva had run after Gideon for the first time (instead of the other way around) following one of his violent nightmares. Sylvia explained in another posting this development was crucial because for the first time, Eva broke her pattern of running away from him. For him, everything changed. For anyone looking for a good reason to re-read a part of Reflected (who, us?) the scene starts on page 122.

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i don't think gideon would be saying "i love you" - he's got serious hang-ups on the word and he's too controled to just let that slip out.  i'm more apt to think he's saying something to himself.  he's a victum of sexual abuse who's never saught help - it would make sense if every act of sex (especially new ones) brought up unwanted images/feelings that he might have to coach himself through.

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Lots of interesting and insightful things since I was last on here. Just a few thoughts...

Gideon is cultured (speaks Italian and maybe more) so he maybe mumbling a word in another language for LOVE that isn't used for everything so loosely like we use the word love in ENGLISH... or he could be whispering exactly that: I Love you because he's chicken. LoL

Gideon may think he's in control, but Eva has faced her demons through years of therapy and is working on making Gideon face his in a round-about-way. She's wise beyond her years because of her past and Gideon's going to face his past whether he likes it or not. And she knows how to get men to want her (her mom's the master.) Eva and Gideon need each other. She worked him good that day she went on the crusade his mom should have done when he was a child. And that car ride was some intense therapy. She knew if she turned her back he would freak. Doesn't it break your heart when they blurt out an insecurity every now and then?

I'm married to a Gideon and this book freaked me out. I too have read it over-and-over.... never have I done that in my life. I've probably learned some things by reading it too. Sylvia is amazing. I can't sing her praises enough.

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Lots of interesting and insightful things since I was last on here. Just a few thoughts...

Gideon is cultured (speaks Italian and maybe more) so he maybe mumbling a word in another language for LOVE that isn't used for everything so loosely like we use the word love in ENGLISH... or he could be whispering exactly that: I Love you because he's chicken. LoL

Gideon may think he's in control, but Eva has faced her demons through years of therapy and is working on making Gideon face his in a round-about-way. She's wise beyond her years because of her past and Gideon's going to face his past whether he likes it or not. And she knows how to get men to want her (her mom's the master.) Eva and Gideon need each other. She worked him good that day she went on the crusade his mom should have done when he was a child. And that car ride was some intense therapy. She knew if she turned her back he would freak. Doesn't it break your heart when they blurt out an insecurity every now and then?

I'm married to a Gideon and this book freaked me out. I too have read it over-and-over.... never have I done that in my life. I've probably learned some things by reading it too. Sylvia is amazing. I can't sing her praises enough.

 

Hi MicheleWV,

I just wanted to ask what you meant when you said Eva worked him good. I am not following. If you could please explain that would be great. :)

The Italian phrase for I Love You is “Ti Amoâ€. They are two very simple words; but packed full of meaning. :) I was just wondering why you would think that Gideon would say that to his friend Arnoldo first and not Eva. Most guys choke at the mere thought of expressing their emotions to one another. So I think it is an interesting concept that Gideon may have expressed his feelings someone else before the object of his affection. :)

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Hi everyone,

Kirsten posted something yesterday that Sylvia had a big announcement planned for today. Does anyone know what it is? I don't follow twitter so I can't find out that way. If someone could post a respone to this, that would be great. :) Thanks in advance. :)

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