GiGi Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Responding to just one little point - I don't think it's been that long. I suspect we're talking about a matter of months, maybe a year. I think Deanna's grudge is still fairly new - if she'd been out to trash Gideon for longer than that, I think we'd probably have heard about it/seen evidence of it and Gideon wouldn't have been surprised when Deanne started hanging out at Eva's apartment building. And since Gideon used Deanna to brush off Anne, that suggests that his affair with Anne wasn't so long ago, either. I think all this happened after Corinne. (Corinne was his first lover and there's nothing to suggest he cheated on her.) And I think Dr. Lucas (the pediatrician) was protecting Dr. Lucas (the psychiatrist) by covering up for her brother. I don't think Dr. Lucas (the psychiatrist) ever knew what her brother did to Gideon. Hi Sarah, I read your posting and that is so interesting. I thought that the affair between Gideon and Anne, and Gideon and Deanna was longer than a year ago. I think that in the case of Deanna, she didn't have enough ammunition to come after Gideon. Up until Eva, Gideon was never seen with a woman, long term. Eva is the first woman that Gideon has been openly seen with. I always got the feeling that Deanna wouldn't have been able to make more than one run at Gideon without feeling his wrath or potentially jeopardizing her career. Gideon is very wealthy and powerful, and as such, could destroy her career if she didn't have something juicy to hold over him. Do you know what I mean?  It is clear that the relationship between Anne Lucas and her husband is complicated, to say the least and quite frankly I am not sure if they are still together. Maybe someone in the forum could clarify this point.  Your scenario is completely plausible and it is entirely possible that I have over-thought this entire situation. I can hardly wait for the next book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm probably wrong because the whole idea is a little far fetched but Anne did something to Corinne and she had her sights on Cary. In my opinion it is to hurt Gideon and the people he cares about. Hi Sharon, Do you think that Ane may have had her sights on Cary from the beginning? That would be such an interesting theory. It would certainly add a twist to the storyline...Cary could have his very own stalker...just kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Don't forget about the Redhead who approached Eva at the end of Gideon's speech at the Advocacy Center Dinner in BTY, was this Anne?  p99, "I turned to look at the woman who spoke, a lovely redhead who appeared to be in her early forties. "We're just ... friends." Her serene smile somehow managed to argue with me."  Anne knew that Gideon was different with Eva during this dinner and so she started planning her retaliation/revenge then. Hi Sue, Sylvia mention in either one of her tweets or posts, that the redhead at the dinner wasn't Anne Lucas.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 True! He must've been so angry that he had to leave Eva.   Soooo....what do we think the news is going to be tom? It's "fun" news....hmmm....  I really hope for a Sept release, but I kinda doubt it. Usually there's more time between the announcement of a release and the actual release....no? Unless like Sylvia said, she didn't want to announce until the books went to print! I also wonder if she's done w/ book 5 yet! Ahhh! So excited!  I was thinking about going her Shelter Island book signing this weekend, I'm not sure if I could get someone to watch the kids tho  Anyone else going? Hi Nathalia, Could it be that Sylvia might release the name of the fifth and final book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I wonder if Anne noticed the ring on Eva's finger that night?? Good question Sscrph! Now where is the next book... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb55 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lionsgate-acquires-television-rights-to-the-1-new-york-times-bestselling-series-crossfire-by-award-winning-author-sylvia-day-218352681.html   the news!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathalia Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Here's the Crossfire news Sylvia promised: Â http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lionsgate-acquires-television-rights-to-the-1-new-york-times-bestselling-series-crossfire-by-award-winning-author-sylvia-day-218352681.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sarah Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 The news is just a press release of something we already knew, right? Or was there something new in there that I missed?  GiGi, Gideon told Eva that Anne came on to him but he was not interested in her until he learned who she's married to. Then he f*c ked her, purely to hurt her husband. Gideon was with Anne more than once, until she was ready to leave her husband for him. Then he tossed her back. I'm pretty sure that's how Terry knew about his wife's affair. And, Gideon told Eva, Terry loves his wife, probably as much as Gideon loves Eva, so he's willing to forgive her for the affair and blame it all on Gideon. From this I surmise that Terry and Anne are still together.  As far as I can tell, we don't know for sure whether or not Anne knows what her brother did to Gideon (and why Hugh killed himself). All we have is Gideon's perspective, and he doesn't believe that she knows. He believes that her husband has protected her from the knowledge.  I think Anne came onto Gideon because she was attracted to him. He hurt her badly and she's out for revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Thank you for clarifying.  In ETW why didn't Monica notice Eva's engagement ring whilst seated at the same table during dinner, yet Elizabeth did when standing net to her? Any ideas  Nope. I've been wondering this since I read it the first time! My best guess is that Day wants to show us the scene with Eva and her mom, but the end of Entwined with You wasn't the time or place for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Nope. I've been wondering this since I read it the first time! My best guess is that Day wants to show us the scene with Eva and her mom, but the end of Entwined with You wasn't the time or place for it.  I think Monica noticed but like you say, we will hear more in the next book. I think the scene at the charity benefit focused on Eva & Gideon sharing the news with the general public. There is no way that Eva wouldn't share the engagement with her mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmhope Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hi Jmhope, Something just struck me as odd; why would they flex cuff Gideon and Jean Francois and then not have them arrested or turned over to the police? Can security guards in the US physically restrain someone without being a police officer? In Canada, someone can be detained (i.e. held in an office while a person waits for police to arrive) or separated from a situation, but they can't be handcuffed, or phsycially restrained.  Just another quick thought; why would security go through all of the trouble of flex cuffing someone without then following through and having them arrested? Thoughts? i am not positive, but probably they could restrain ( if they didn't stop struggling or fighting) then put them in a room...Don't know why charges weren't pressed by the hospital. This episode was really confusing, plus sending Eva off with no explanation. then not calling or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Moonfeather,I read your posting and I can see where you are coming from.  I think that I am finding it extremely odd (to say the least), that Anne Lucas would look to hurt Gideon via Eva, via Cary. It seems like an awfully complicated chain just to hurt one person, unless something potentially more sinister is at play here. Do you know what I mean?  You bring up a good point about Hugh’s suicide. How did Anne connect her brother’s suicide and Gideon? Wouldn’t that be an indicator that Anne had been made aware of Gideon’s allegations of abuse against her brother?  If Anne wasn’t aware of Gideon and Hugh’s connection, is her obsession with hurting Gideon then based solely on having been a scorned woman? What is the deal here?  You also bring up another question: How did Terrance Lucas find out about the affair between Gideon and Anne (I think that it was mentioned somewhere in the book the Dr. Lucas knew of the affair)?  Who spilled the beans?  After reading the books, it was my understanding that Gideon didn’t really have an interest in Anne until after he found out that Anne was Terrance Lucas’ wife. What was a little unclear to me was whether Gideon had sex with Anne before finding out that information. Perhaps someone in the forum can shed some light on that. Great thoughts Moonfeather! I can hardly wait for the next book! No I think it was a very calculated scenario on Gideon's part, he wanted to hurt Lucas after he got to the bottom of why he lied and he used his stunning good looks and billionaire persona to attract his wife into a sexual situation with him purely for revenge. Gideon said it was supposed to only be one nite but she couldn't get enough and kept coming back for more...She wanted to leave her husband then Gideon dumped her. After all that drama, Anne Lucas definitely wants revenge on Gideon. Maybe she did have a breakdown and only now is able to hatch this plan of revenge...this scorned woman is definitely dangerous!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayeth Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 The news is just a press release of something we already knew, right? Or was there something new in there that I missed?    Sarah,  I felt the same way. I too thought that this was information we already knew, but I guess the rest of the world didn't know it and this release just made it official.  I would have LOVED to have read which cable station would be airing the show, what the show is going to be called and when the show will start airing.  I was a little bummed, but now it is official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lionsgate-acquires-television-rights-to-the-1-new-york-times-bestselling-series-crossfire-by-award-winning-author-sylvia-day-218352681.html   the news!!!   Here's the Crossfire news Sylvia promised:  http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lionsgate-acquires-television-rights-to-the-1-new-york-times-bestselling-series-crossfire-by-award-winning-author-sylvia-day-218352681.html Hi Barb & Nathalia, Thank you ladies, for posting the link.  GiGi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GiGi Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Sarah,  I felt the same way. I too thought that this was information we already knew, but I guess the rest of the world didn't know it and this release just made it official.  I would have LOVED to have read which cable station would be airing the show, what the show is going to be called and when the show will start airing.  I was a little bummed, but now it is official Hi Fayeth, You are correct, we already knew about this "news scoop". Oh well, c'est la vie. Now we wait for a snippet...  GiGi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 The news is just a press release of something we already knew, right? Or was there something new in there that I missed?  GiGi, Gideon told Eva that Anne came on to him but he was not interested in her until he learned who she's married to. Then he f*c ked her, purely to hurt her husband. Gideon was with Anne more than once, until she was ready to leave her husband for him. Then he tossed her back. I'm pretty sure that's how Terry knew about his wife's affair. And, Gideon told Eva, Terry loves his wife, probably as much as Gideon loves Eva, so he's willing to forgive her for the affair and blame it all on Gideon. From this I surmise that Terry and Anne are still together.  As far as I can tell, we don't know for sure whether or not Anne knows what her brother did to Gideon (and why Hugh killed himself). All we have is Gideon's perspective, and he doesn't believe that she knows. He believes that her husband has protected her from the knowledge.  I think Anne came onto Gideon because she was attracted to him. He hurt her badly and she's out for revenge. Hi Sarah, You make some valid points. I think that it will be important (hopefully we will get some snippets) to know whether this affair happened a long time ago or whether it was something that happened recently. It will shed some much needed light as to what might be going on in "Whack-A-Doo, Shrinky-Poo's" head. Was this strictly revenge on being tossed over by a man, or is she trying to avenge a dead brother.   You are also correct; all we have is Gideon's word on the situation. Thus far, I have been giving Gideon the benefit of the doubt on this issue. Gideon can be very hard on himself and sometimes I think that he takes too much on himself (i.e. Hugh's suicide and Corinne's attempted suicide).   Thank you for your perspective. It makes my understanding of the book and the characters more enriching. It also makes the wait a little more bearable.  I can hardly wait for the next book.  GiGi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 i am not positive, but probably they could restrain ( if they didn't stop struggling or fighting) then put them in a room...Don't know why charges weren't pressed by the hospital. This episode was really confusing, plus sending Eva off with no explanation. then not calling or anything Hi Jmhope, I agree. That is what I find so confusing. If Gideon and Jean Francois were brawling then surely more than one security guard came to break up the fight. So why go through all of the trouble to get someone on the ground, put their hands behind their back, flex cuff them and then take them to the security office.  If the fight had been broken up, why not have the security guards escort each individual to separate offices? It is not like they would have to call for "back-up". The guards would already be there.  Oh well, I guess I will have to wait for the next book to get some answers.  GiGi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 No I think it was a very calculated scenario on Gideon's part, he wanted to hurt Lucas after he got to the bottom of why he lied and he used his stunning good looks and billionaire persona to attract his wife into a sexual situation with him purely for revenge. Gideon said it was supposed to only be one nite but she couldn't get enough and kept coming back for more...She wanted to leave her husband then Gideon dumped her. After all that drama, Anne Lucas definitely wants revenge on Gideon. Maybe she did have a breakdown and only now is able to hatch this plan of revenge...this scorned woman is definitely dangerous!! Hi Sscrph, I agree, Anne is potentially very dangerous!! I could see her going nuts and trying to seriously hurt someone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi, I am new here, Could it be possible that Anne can get to the information from Dr. Petersen. That she can read what Gideon and Eva share with the Dr. And that she is going to just that information to hurt Gideon. What do jou think? Sorry for my English, I'm from the netherlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabri Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I can't think properly...  there's nothing, not one thing I wouldn't do for you, dear, willingly or otherwise. Sheens, you're are the best!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Welcome, Daan! I'm not sure how that would work. It would certainly be a crime! But anything's possible, and that's pretty devious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabri Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi, I am new here, Could it be possible that Anne can get to the information from Dr. Petersen. That she can read what Gideon and Eva share with the Dr. And that she is going to just that information to hurt Gideon. What do jou think? Sorry for my English, I'm from the netherlands Hi Daan, welcome to the forum Dr. Petersen might have wanted to discuss Gideon's atypical parasomnia with another psychiatrist  but he is bound by the duty of confidentiality, so no names mentioned. How could Anne have guessed it was Gideon Dr. Petersen was talking about? Or is Dr. Petersen at fault here? Book 4 will never come out sooner enough!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jls1216 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Sharon. I always thought that Anne somehow found out that Corinne was pregnant, thinking the baby was Gideons, , and that prescribing antidepressants would result in a miscarriage. She would be hurting Gideon through Corinne. The same as Gideon hurt Lucas through Anne. In answer to your question, yes Eva is in big trouble, because Anne will realise she got it wrong, and will still want revenge! I think Eva is going to kick Anne's A S S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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