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It doesn't help matters that up to now, Gideon keeps breaking down to see Corrine and all that does is send a mixed message that if she cries out for his attention she'll get it. Think about it. When he ended the charade of dating her he told her they could still have some sort of long distance contact but no more spending time together. When he quit taking her phone calls she showed up at the Crossfire and got him to come to down to the lobby. Then more crazy stalking got him to go see her at her apartment to talk about her depression meds. She took the overdose and he went to the hospital. Then after she got out and went to the Crossfire again he brought her into his office because he felt bad for her because of the miscarriage. But he told her he was engaged so no more contact. The tell-all book is her latest stunt and look what he did. He called her to arrange to meet at the same restaurant he took her to weeks earlier when he started spending time with her.

Know what I think he should have done? Sent Arash to the restaurant instead. Send a clear message and quit sending the mixed message that if only she tries hard enough she can get Gideon to see her.

Totally agree Lighthouse.

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arash nailed it.. He said you used to poke at him a couple times a week....he said to Gideon you may be aware of whats going on but your NOT paying attention. Gideon even makes a comment to himself about Landon once again looking over at his building but Gideon had his back turned.

 

Gideon also said to himself he missed how simple it was to be focused on work and not everything else.

Honestly Im sick to death of the woodwork skanks. lets move along with our love story and answer the questions, Not make us ask new ones

lol  .. the thing is we were just seeing Gideons' world for the first time and whose his enemies though. He managed to deal with Evas'  but not his  and they were all  making an appearance . Most of Evas' major issues has been tied up. Cary or Monica wasn't an issues its just a part of her normal  chaotic life .. If Im going to be honest i dont want the Crossfire series to end ..

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Totally agree Lighthouse.

I dont think Gideon could have been more clear than in Chapter 7 of CBY when he told Corinne that even if they were together he would have eventually found Eva and he would have left her to be with Eva.I cant see any other way that Gideon could have put her down; that was extremely blunt and to the point. Gideon is NOT sending mixed signals. Corinne is in denial and she has been since she came back to New York. This supposed tell-all book is such a pathetic stunt on her part . It makes her look so desperate and IMO ruins her chances with some other eligible single gazillionaire. Who would want to be with someone that wanted someone else and shouted it from the rooftops for all to hear...Giroux certainly didn't. He dumped her too.

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In the scene where Eva runs into Shelley Graves at the gym and Shelley asks if she is invited to the wedding, Eva responds that she can come to the reception:

"We're keeping the wedding small, just family" "Really, didn't expect that", Something like a smile transformed her thin face. "He's full of surprises, isn't he." I couldn't begin to decipher what she meant.

Is this perhaps a reference to Shelley being aware Gideon is estranged from some of his family or could there be a deeper meaning?

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arash nailed it.. He said you used to poke at him a couple times a week....he said to Gideon you may be aware of whats going on but your NOT paying attention. Gideon even makes a comment to himself about Landon once again looking over at his building but Gideon had his back turned.

 

Gideon also said to himself he missed how simple it was to be focused on work and not everything else.

Honestly Im sick to death of the woodwork skanks. lets move along with our love story and answer the questions, Not make us ask new ones

I didnt like Gideon when in Chapter 15 he noted that things had been alot simpler before Eva when he only focussed on work and nothing else. I thought of this as bittersweet because even though it is true to a certain extent I dont think the type of life Gideon had before Eva could actually be called a life. Working all day with a couple of one night stands during the week ; estranged from his family with only a few close friends and hiding behind the global magnate image. What he has with Eva is real and relationships are complicated especially theirs since they have so many outside forces pulling at both of them like gravity. Even Dr. Travis noted that Eva may have been yearning for a simple relationship when she was thinking about Brett as opposed to the complicated one she had with Gideon. But as Eva says , she doesn't know how to walk away and she doesn't want to and neither does Gideon. By chapter 19 Gideon is overwhelmed by just how much of his life Eva had come to fill and he is reeling from the loss. These two are just halves of the same whole and need to keep moving forward despite the obstacles...

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I dont think Gideon could have been more clear than in Chapter 7 of CBY when he told Corinne that even if they were together he would have eventually found Eva and he would have left her to be with Eva.I cant see any other way that Gideon could have put her down; that was extremely blunt and to the point. Gideon is NOT sending mixed signals. Corinne is in denial and she has been since she came back to New York. This supposed tell-all book is such a pathetic stunt on her part . It makes her look so desperate and IMO ruins her chances with some other eligible single gazillionaire. Who would want to be with someone that wanted someone else and shouted it from the rooftops for all to hear...Giroux certainly didn't. He dumped her too.

 

She's definitely delusional and what Gideon has said to her couldn't be clearer from the bits we got in EWY and the actual conversations in CBY. It's his actions that are still sending mixed messages. He even confessed in EWY chapter 10 he deliberately sent her mixed signals (his words) when he was using her by fostering the impression they might be more than friends. Once he dropped the facade he was dating her he told her no more in-person contact and yet at least five times since that conversation he seen her because she pulled stunts to get his attention. 

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Sharon-- when you said this

I'm honestly upset with Eva in this book.

I nodded. There were times I felt that way.

I think Corrine does not like to lose. She cannot stand that G is in love so passionately with someone NOT her. Did it not occur to her that she and G never spent a night together in 2 years? Never? That's just not normal today. This woman wants what she wants and is totally delusional. Spoiled brat to me.

Loved the interview.

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I also felt that way about Eva ladies. I don't understand some of her actions here and I get that her walking out on Gideon in the end was justified, but it shocked me to see that she really was so naïve about what her life as Mrs. Cross would entail. That she would have to make some concessions. I feel like Gideon's time has been monopolized by Eva clean-up and she seemed almost ungrateful.

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I think Corinne is spoiled, batspit crazy, extremely manipulative, and possibly dangerous. I think she knew she was pregnant when she left France. She might've hoped to get together with Gideon and pass the baby off as his. Her suicide attempt was just a ploy to guilt Gideon. And she had that book ready to go if she didn't get her way. I'm thrilled that Gideon isn't indulging her emotional blackmail.

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I think Corrine's real target audience for the book isn't Gideon. It's Eva, who was crazy jealous when the women first met and who Corrine probably thinks still neurotic about it. When she signed the book contract she probably fooled herself into thinking the book will make Eva pull another one of her runners. Think about it, especially if she exaggerates in the book how she broke the engagement not Gideon. Plays up the fact (lie, really) that if he had his way originally, the two of them would now be married. I hope Gideon's talk with her at the restaurant made her change her mind. What's the good in driving Eva away if the book also drives Gideon away? Or at the least maybe Gideon managed to scare Corrine, because he threatened to make her sorry if she went through with it. I bet that was the first time she ever heard him threaten her. I hope it turns out to be the last time he ever saw her left at the table when he walked out on her.

Im trying to think of a way Sylvia can finally get rid of Corinne lol. Now that Giroux appears to be divorcing her ;he cant take her back to France which would have been fine with Eva and alot of forum members!!! Now my only hope is that she will hook up with Brett and she will escort him on a worldwide tour with Sixth Ninths!!! :). :)

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I think Corinne is spoiled, batspit crazy, extremely manipulative, and possibly dangerous. I think she knew she was pregnant when she left France. She might've hoped to get together with Gideon and pass the baby off as his. Her suicide attempt was just a ploy to guilt Gideon. And she had that book ready to go if she didn't get her way. I'm thrilled that Gideon isn't indulging her emotional blackmail.

I loved in Chapter 7 when Corinne ran to Gideon saying "what do I have to live for if I don't have you" to which he replied ; I'm not responsible for your happiness Corinne, I'm not responsible for you...Go home to your husband."She just doesn't get it . I was so proud of Gideon in that scene ; he doesnt owe her a GD thing!!

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I loved in Chapter 7 when Corinne ran to Gideon saying "what do I have to live for if I don't have you" to which he replied ; I'm not responsible for your happiness Corinne, I'm not responsible for you...Go home to your husband."She just doesn't get it . I was so proud of Gideon in that scene ; he doesnt owe her a GD thing!!

AMEN!!!!!  And she is batsh** crazy.  A lot of these women are.  Anne?  Deanna?  Lizzie?  Gideon lived in a world of crazy.

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She really is a freaking loon, and I've also wondered how the heck we are going to get rid of her. Brett is a simple fix... he's going on tour and can spend his time with the Eva look alike. Corrine... she's tougher to get rid of. Do we believe she really didn't know about the baby? Maybe she will have a total psychotic break and spend the rest of her days heavily medicated in an institution. ;)

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Eva did not tell Gideon about Landon placing a job at their agency but she weighted  her loyalty to Gideon  which was a good sign. I think she has to leave  because she was really mad and we need reason to kick Gideon Arse hard. Him fearing to death that Eva would not come back and forgive him forced him to open up to Dr. Petersen. What I dont like was Eva feeling like she cant forgive Gideon over that. She said Gideon took away that freedom .. errm did she forget Gideon gave her freedom back  when he killed Nathan . There was a part of me that I understand about Gideon , Him controlling everything means controlling the outcome. Time was an essence and things were moving fats one after the other. However , I think it was Evas' fault too. Her telling him she wasn't pushing  and we'll wait for him to be ready but deep down she was resenting him already so at the end of the day Eva was a ticking time bomb too. So I guess when she said about being honest, she should push Gideon even if they fight  because its the only way she can help him . Gideon would do everything for her  , hasn't she know it by now so she might as well used it . 

Hi Gcrossfire,

I read your comments about Eva and her conflict between work and her marriage and I saw it differently.  Once Eva decided to get married her alliance should be with her husband.  I am not saying that a woman/man should automatically sacrifice him/herself for the sake of their marriage, but when two people get married, it is no longer a situation of me/he/she, it automatically becomes we.

 

I have to wonder whether Eva's lack of a decision about the Landon Corp deal, was in response to the fact that she got married too soon.  Gideon chased Eva hard, exposed and overwhelmed her (as well as loved her deeply and unconditionally to the best of his ability) all the way to the alter.  Could it be that on some level Eva was rebelling to the fact that she chose a life and a partner that she will largely have no control over?

 

What do you think?  What does everyone think?

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She really is a freaking loon, and I've also wondered how the heck we are going to get rid of her. Brett is a simple fix... he's going on tour and can spend his time with the Eva look alike. Corrine... she's tougher to get rid of. Do we believe she really didn't know about the baby? Maybe she will have a total psychotic break and spend the rest of her days heavily medicated in an institution. ;)

Hi Kirsten,

I read your comments about Brett and I have to agree. I am glad that he will be going on tour.  My only hope is that everytime he spends time with the "look alike" is that he remembers what he lost and that he learns from his boneheaded mistakes. ;)

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I loved in Chapter 7 when Corinne ran to Gideon saying "what do I have to live for if I don't have you" to which he replied ; I'm not responsible for your happiness Corinne, I'm not responsible for you...Go home to your husband."She just doesn't get it . I was so proud of Gideon in that scene ; he doesnt owe her a GD thing!!

Hi Sscrph,

I was so glad for Gideon!  Yea!  Finally a breakthrough!!  My only question is whether Gideon actually sat down with Corinne and explained to her what was going on? 

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I also felt that way about Eva ladies. I don't understand some of her actions here and I get that her walking out on Gideon in the end was justified, but it shocked me to see that she really was so naïve about what her life as Mrs. Cross would entail. That she would have to make some concessions. I feel like Gideon's time has been monopolized by Eva clean-up and she seemed almost ungrateful.

Hi Kirsten,

I have to agree with you.  I too, find it very difficult to believe that Eva had no concept of what it would be like to be Mrs. Gideon Cross.  Was the courtship not enough of an "eye-opener"?

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I disagree with you completely.  You are right Cary and Eva support each other.  Their relationship is like a sibling relationship.  Eva can talk to Cary about things she can't talk to anyone else.  Eva's family accept Cary into their family like a member of the family.  That is the relationship they have.  Cary has told Eva on a couple occasions that he wants her and Gideon to work out. 

                                                         

Is Cary having a hard time right now?  Yes!  He sees himself making one mistake after another.  He loves Trey but he is forever bound to Tat via a baby.  Eva takes care of Cary and so does her mother and Stanton. 

 

Regarding Cary's reaction to Eva telling him they eloped.  Cary witnessed Gideon's nightmares.  They are violent.  He is afraid for Eva physically.  Eva said that Cary had violent nightmares that's why she approached Gideon carefully.  Cary wants Gideon to work on his problems because he doesn't want Gideon to get caught in a nightmare and punch or rape Eva.  That is a valid concern. 

 

Someone else mentioned Cary not letting Eva know that Brett's band was Six Ninths.  That was a practical joke.   He didn’t know she was going backstage.  He didn't know he was setting up a fight between Gideon and Brett.  If they had just gone to the concert Cary would have teased Eva about the shock. 

 

I believe that Cary is so depressed right now that he is feeling sorry for himself.  Eva always telling Cary off and snapping him out of his funk.  I'm sure she will do that again.  As far as Cary being the only one still F'd up that is not true.  Eva ran again and she knows IMO that she should sit down and talk the situation over with Gideon.  He is a very wealthy man.  He has enemies that he made in business and he has enemies left over from his father.  Eva has to know she can't work for a company that will support his competitors.

Hi Sharon,

I read your comments and I agree with your assessment with Cary.  I also just wanted to add that the time that Cary had found out about Tatiana being pregnant and such has been only a short time.  So his freak out is understandable from my view point.  I think about all of my friends and colleagues who have had children and how; from the moment they found out up until the birth and even post birth; that is all they thought about or talked about. 

 

Tatiana's pregnancy may also be forcing Cary to face many childhood issues and traumas that they he may have thought were dealt with enough.  Now Cary has to actively face and deal with what his "mother" did to him and how she never protected him, used him and wh*red him out.  Those are some horrific traumas to deal with.  Although I don't agree with how Cary is behaving(self-harming etc.), I understand his actions.

 

The issues that Cary is facing in his life right now (and for a long time to come) aren't going to be dealt with, with a one trip to visit to see Dr. Travis. Cary needs life coping skills and parenting skills (if the child is his with Tatiana).  My only hope is that someone will have his back when it comes to sorting out the mess of whether the child is his or not.  It is obvious that he is not in a place in his life where he is able to care for another person, let alone himself.  Right now he acting out from an emotional space and cannot see the "forrest from the trees". 

 

With regards to Gideon, I had a quick question; does Cary know that Gideon was abused as a child?  Or does he only know that Gideon has violent nightmares of an unknown origin?  I don't remember Eva having a conversation with Cary about that. 

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Hi Sharon,

I read your comments and I agree with your assessment with Cary.  I also just wanted to add that the time that Cary had found out about Tatiana being pregnant and such has been only a short time.  So his freak out is understandable from my view point.  I think about all of my friends and colleagues who have had children and how; from the moment they found out up until the birth and even post birth; that is all they thought about or talked about. 

 

Tatiana's pregnancy may also be forcing Cary to face many childhood issues and traumas that they he may have thought were dealt with enough.  Now Cary has to actively face and deal with what his "mother" did to him and how she never protected him, used him and wh*red him out.  Those are some horrific traumas to deal with.  Although I don't agree with how Cary is behaving(self-harming etc.), I understand his actions.

 

The issues that Cary is facing in his life right now (and for a long time to come) aren't going to be dealt with, with a one trip to visit to see Dr. Travis. Cary needs life coping skills and parenting skills (if the child is his with Tatiana).  My only hope is that someone will have his back when it comes to sorting out the mess of whether the child is his or not.  It is obvious that he is not in a place in his life where he is able to care for another person, let alone himself.  Right now he acting out from an emotional space and cannot see the "forrest from the trees". 

 

With regards to Gideon, I had a quick question; does Cary know that Gideon was abused as a child?  Or does he only know that Gideon has violent nightmares of an unknown origin?  I don't remember Eva having a conversation with Cary about that.

Hi Gigi No I do not think Cary knows the nature of Gideon's nightmares; he may have his own theories but Eva has never told him.

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I think Corinne is spoiled, batspit crazy, extremely manipulative, and possibly dangerous. I think she knew she was pregnant when she left France. She might've hoped to get together with Gideon and pass the baby off as his. Her suicide attempt was just a ploy to guilt Gideon. And she had that book ready to go if she didn't get her way. I'm thrilled that Gideon isn't indulging her emotional blackmail.

This could actually be another reason Corinne showed up at the Crossfire that day; she needed to get a quick Fu$$ ( for lack of a better term lol) out of Gideon so she would actually be able to pass the baby off as his... Although he always uses protection and the timing would be off it is obvious she already wasnt thinking clearly at this point if that was her plan. Gideon isnt stupid; she never could have pulled it off. Stupid and crazy ; she needs to go !!!

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I understand why everyone is ripping on Eva for walking away twords the end 

BUT.. The second read makes it much clearer. She had to devastate Gideon for him to want to change..

it worked, so Im good now

I'm coming to the same conclusion, highlighted a sentence during my re-read from the Monday morning after they had taken Ireland back to the Vidal place and before Eva told Mark they were to meet with LanCorp. She mentions how much they had on their plate that weekend, Gideon hadn't slept Saturday night* and how he did not see in himself what she saw. She goes on "He'd saved me, in so many ways. I was going to do whatever needed to be done to save him, too."

*And how does Gideon do it, he functions on very little sleep, when he is in bed not sleeping he is mostly extremely active, he's running a massive company. Most guys who didn't sleep would probably keep 'it' up for 5 minutes and then collapse exhausted and certainly not be able to think clearly enough to run a company.

I'm also not convinced we have seen the last of Brett - when Chris snr speaks to Gideon in the penthouse about the re-make of the video Gideon thinks to himself "Apparently, Brett Kline had some serious feelings for Eve after all, I wasn't okay with that. Not even close" Does this signify the possibility of more action with Kline in OWY?

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