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Yes I do think that Gideon has visited a sex club and maybe has even encountered Deanna there??? LOL!!

We all know that Gideon told Eva that he used the hotel for his sexual encounters before her, but what if he meant while he lived in New York. He does twist his words.  Are we to believe that he never had sex while away on business at his resorts and casinos. He met Arnaldo in Italy. The beautiful women there didn't catch his eye. Perhaps while away he went to sex clubs. Look what he said about the two girls coming onto him backstage at Bret's concert. He would have taken them both on in the past before Eva. But he was in San Diego not New York. Sounded to me like he would have taken them to his hotel room there. He is a clever, crafty man with a huge sexual appetite.

He did not lie to Eva...he told her the truth..yes in New York I've only used the hotel but she didn't ask about while he was away and therefore he feels he doesn't need to elaborate as this may upset her.

Also when he explains that he doesn't do anal play. Perhaps he was meaning he doesn't receive. As we find out with Anne he has done this with her. He again didn't lie, just explained in a way to spare Eva's feelings yet still tell the truth. 

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We all know that Gideon told Eva that he used the hotel for his sexual encounters before her, but what if he meant while he lived in New York. He does twist his words.  Are we to believe that he never had sex while away on business at his resorts and casinos. He met Arnaldo in Italy. The beautiful women there didn't catch his eye. Perhaps while away he went to sex clubs. Look what he said about the two girls coming onto him backstage at Bret's concert. He would have taken them both on in the past before Eva. But he was in San Diego not New York. Sounded to me like he would have taken them to his hotel room there. He is a clever, crafty man with a huge sexual appetite.

He did not lie to Eva...he told her the truth..yes in New York I've only used the hotel but she didn't ask about while he was away and therefore he feels he doesn't need to elaborate as this may upset her.

Also when he explains that he doesn't do anal play. Perhaps he was meaning he doesn't receive. As we find out with Anne he has done this with her. He again didn't lie, just explained in a way to spare Eva's feelings yet still tell the truth.

Totally agree with all of this Shan; once again these would all be sexual encounters; in no way would these be termed "lovers." Eva is the only woman Gideon has Ever loved therefore his lover; I think I would even consider Corinne a sexual partner... What do you all think? Also in the next book I do not think we will ever truly address Gideon's sexual past in any more depth. His past is the past as is Eva's and they are both much more concerned with the future. The only way this would ever be revisited is if more of his crazy exes come out of the shadows to torment Eva... :(. :(

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Totally agree with all of this Shan; once again these would all be sexual encounters; in no way would these be termed "lovers." Eva is the only woman Gideon has Ever loved therefore his lover; I think I would even consider Corinne a sexual partner... What do you all think? Also in the next book I do not think we will ever truly address Gideon's sexual past in any more depth. His past is the past as is Eva's and they are both much more concerned with the future. The only way this would ever be revisited is if more of his crazy exes come out of the shadows to torment Eva... :(. :(

I agree, but what I find interesting is the fact that most of the women that Gideon has been with don't kiss and tell. I am sure they haven't signed a non-disclosure claim like in FSOG. Yes, Gideon has not always been forthcoming with the truth. He doesn't lie, but he seems to always leave something out. "ask me no questions and I will tell you no lies"

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I agree, but what I find interesting is the fact that most of the women that Gideon has been with don't kiss and tell. I am sure they haven't signed a non-disclosure claim like in FSOG. Yes, Gideon has not always been forthcoming with the truth. He doesn't lie, but he seems to always leave something out. "ask me no questions and I will tell you no lies"

I had similar thoughts back in the "spoiler" chat. I asked the same question. He has had hundreds of women. None of them try to see him again, or hang around the hotel, try to see him at Crossfire?  None  of these women felt scornful until Eva was seen with him? I have even toiled with the thought that he may have used an escort service for most of his sexual encounters. The  women from the service would be private, professional, confidential. They would not be upset if he doesn't follow thru with intercourse and just focus on them or if he got into some BDSM. They would keep quiet.  So therefore not a lot of angry woman wanting his attention outside the hotel except Deanna and Corrine and Anne.  Its surprising to me that Deanna {knowing her history from the book Aftershock} that her "failed"  night with Gideon upset her so much. One night stands with rich powerful men are not a new venture for her. Gideon being rude to her and answering his phone before HE finishes can't be a first for her. When you re-read her conversation she had with Eva on the phone about their night...it sounds to me that he pleasured her first cause she says something along the line of "he answered the phone before HE was done." She is a young, modern, well experienced woman in New York and you can't tell me that all her sexual encounters ended in pure bliss for both. Perhaps Anne is behind her scornful behavior as other members have pointed out.

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But has he really had hundreds of women or was that just something said to Anne when he was making her think he had treated a lot of women how he had treated her. He's obviously had a fair few women as they would have been falling over themselves to get to someone as attractive and rich as he is, but apart from Anne and Corrine they all seemed to be one night stands.

Agreed he may not have followed through with intercourse, with Eva it is pretty much his realisation that intercourse IS possible, that he can get it up and get it off, and it doesn't have to involve any little extras, although he'd obviously like the occasional diversion from vanilla. He may have needed his other women to be cuffed as he probably doesn't really like them touching him, but something must have clicked with Eva and he allowed her free reign with him apart from when he was really angry and reverted to his need for kink.

The Deanna thing is intriguing and I am adding that to my list of really would like to know more and get a better resolution than her just accepting the exclusive of the wedding pictures - backing down over what seemed to be a big deal to her to a few photos doesn't seem right, I don't think she is as bad as Anne, who is the real danger, but something has wound her up. And again, could that be Anne - if Deanna was seeing Anne for therapy and Anne was already wanting to get back at Gideon, then winding Deanna up over what was basically something trivial as Shan12 mentions, and knowing he has a reputation for one night stands, why is Deanna bent on getting back at him? Okay as a journalist it would be a scoop to get the dirty low down on someone in the news, but as he's already seen as a playboy it would probably only enhance that reputation, not mar it.

Maybe it is just Anne manipulating people to get her own revenge - wonder how she is going to feel when she finds out that Gideon was also getting revenge on her husband for lieing about the abuse, and Hugh for carrying out the abuse. Although Gideon did say something to Anne about her husband, I wonder if she knows the real reason Gideon took that action - would her husband have told her Gideon was abused - if he did would it have been during the Gideon/Anne affair or after? If during, as a therapist she should have had the sense to handle things properly for someone who had childhood abuse, and maybe would have realised the way he treated her was to do with that and even if told afterwards it would have made her think about it. Her comments in CBY made me think she didn't know about the abuse at all.

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But has he really had hundreds of women or was that just something said to Anne when he was making her think he had treated a lot of women how he had treated her. He's obviously had a fair few women as they would have been falling over themselves to get to someone as attractive and rich as he is, but apart from Anne and Corrine they all seemed to be one night stands.Agreed he may not have followed through with intercourse, with Eva it is pretty much his realisation that intercourse IS possible, that he can get it up and get it off, and it doesn't have to involve any little extras, although he'd obviously like the occasional diversion from vanilla. He may have needed his other women to be cuffed as he probably doesn't really like them touching him, but something must have clicked with Eva and he allowed her free reign with him apart from when he was really angry and reverted to his need for kink.The Deanna thing is intriguing and I am adding that to my list of really would like to know more and get a better resolution than her just accepting the exclusive of the wedding pictures - backing down over what seemed to be a big deal to her to a few photos doesn't seem right, I don't think she is as bad as Anne, who is the real danger, but something has wound her up. And again, could that be Anne - if Deanna was seeing Anne for therapy and Anne was already wanting to get back at Gideon, then winding Deanna up over what was basically something trivial as Shan12 mentions, and knowing he has a reputation for one night stands, why is Deanna ###### bent on getting back at him? Okay as a journalist it would be a scoop to get the dirty low down on someone in the news, but as he's already seen as a playboy it would probably only enhance that reputation, not mar it.Maybe it is just Anne manipulating people to get her own revenge - wonder how she is going to feel when she finds out that Gideon was also getting revenge on her husband for lieing about the abuse, and Hugh for carrying out the abuse. Although Gideon did say something to Anne about her husband, I wonder if she knows the real reason Gideon took that action - would her husband have told her Gideon was abused - if he did would it have been during the Gideon/Anne affair or after? If during, as a therapist she should have had the sense to handle things properly for someone who had childhood abuse, and maybe would have realised the way he treated her was to do with that and even if told afterwards it would have made her think about it. Her comments in CBY made me think she didn't know about the abuse at all.

I agree; I do not think Anne knows about the abuse. I think her hatred of Gideon is simply because he played her. She fell in love with him and just as Gideon said "I sent her back to her husband." Her comment about breaking his toys and throwing them away was obviously referring to their relationship if you could call it that.

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I am also surprised of all of those women (even if it is 10 or a 100) Gideon has been "playing" around with who, as far as we know, never has been gossiping. The perfect way of revenge must be selling the story to a magazine?!?! He must have been quite lucky considering how powerful& famous he is.

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We all know that Gideon told Eva that he used the hotel for his sexual encounters before her, but what if he meant while he lived in New York. He does twist his words. Are we to believe that he never had sex while away on business at his resorts and casinos. He met Arnaldo in Italy. The beautiful women there didn't catch his eye. Perhaps while away he went to sex clubs. Look what he said about the two girls coming onto him backstage at Bret's concert. He would have taken them both on in the past before Eva. But he was in San Diego not New York. Sounded to me like he would have taken them to his hotel room there. He is a clever, crafty man with a huge sexual appetite.

He did not lie to Eva...he told her the truth..yes in New York I've only used the hotel but she didn't ask about while he was away and therefore he feels he doesn't need to elaborate as this may upset her.

Also when he explains that he doesn't do anal play. Perhaps he was meaning he doesn't receive. As we find out with Anne he has done this with her. He again didn't lie, just explained in a way to spare Eva's feelings yet still tell the truth.

I agree with nearly everything you've said except for the part about anal play. When Gideon says he does not do anal play it is because Eva has asked that of him. That he touch her there. If it's true that he did indeed play in this way with Anne then that was a flat-out lie to Eva - the first we've really come across. It's possible that Gideon considers both Eva & Anne exceptions to his normal encounters but for very different reasons! Obviously with Anne it was a form of revenge against Hugh & Dr Lucas whereas with Eva it is because she is the love of his life. For this reason he may not consider it a lie because it was very much not his norm. With Anne he was acting out of character in that situation...? Thoughts?

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I agree with nearly everything you've said except for the part about anal play. When Gideon says he does not do anal play it is because Eva has asked that of him. That he touch her there. If it's true that he did indeed play in this way with Anne then that was a flat-out lie to Eva - the first we've really come across. It's possible that Gideon considers both Eva & Anne exceptions to his normal encounters but for very different reasons! Obviously with Anne it was a form of revenge against Hugh & Dr Lucas whereas with Eva it is because she is the love of his life. For this reason he may not consider it a lie because it was very much not his norm. With Anne he was acting out of character in that situation...? Thoughts?

I think Gideon definitely meant HE didn't receive even though he let Eva touch him there on the plane enroute to the Crosswinds Resort.

It was stated that with Anne he used sexual toys anally not his di$$ which he says usually doesnt get involved.

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With Anne he was acting out of character in that situation...? Thoughts?

Yes, I do believe thatnhe was acting when he were with Anne. His motives weren't the s**ual satisfaction, but payback.

Regarding the anal part, I perceived like sscrph that Gideon didn't receive, but as far as I can remember he didn't say anything about giving?!? That he allowed Eva shows how much he trusts her, assuming no one has been allowed "there" because of the se*ual abuse.

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I've just been reading through the questions to Sylvia on Good Reads and this appears - I don't think I can recall seeing a reason why she was stringing him along other than that she still felt a connection to him?

Question I feel like Eva is stringing Brett along a bit, almost giving him hope but there isn't any and I feel bad for him. Is there a yet to be revealed reason why she is doing this?

Answer Sylvia Day Yes, she has a reason, which you'll see in Captivated by You.

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Has anyone seen what Sylvia is refering to in CBY? I was hoping for some answers in OWY.

I think when Eva said she was confused about Brett in the first chapter talking with Gideon.....also when talking with Dr. Travis, he pointed out that maybe she was conflicted about Brett was because she didn't believe that she deserved anyone better and to be treated the way that Brett treated her....(maybe just a good piece of A**). IDK....

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Has anyone seen what Sylvia is referring to in CBY? I was hoping for some answers in OWY.

 

I agree with jmhope. The reference is Chapter 4, page 67. Dr Travis advises Eva that her life if complicated with Gideon, was simpler with Brett and she is wishing things were simpler.

Brett was "part of your life at a pivotal time, and the end of your relationship caused a bit of an epiphany for you".

"I'm going to avoid Brett, but I wonder if that means I'm not dealing with the root of the problem. Like an alcoholic...."

Dr Travis: "Eva...the fact you're even asking [do I deserve Brett] ...that's your problem right there".

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Time period of the books

Question - @SylDay how much time has past since Gideon & Eva met until CBY???

Sylvia Day .@melicpf12 It's June in #BaredToYou, and in #CaptivatedByYou it's just turning September.

Hmm, so that's possibly longer than I thought unless it's late June. Plus if we are in September what happened to Gideon's birthday - just seems odd that it wasn't mentioned, surely Eva and Ireland at the least would have given him gifts, and the friends would have wanted to party.

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