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  1. Hotreads, you are nitpicking right now. I agree that the person did not put in everyone on the list, but you know what, give it a rest. You get your say on this site, which I am sad to say, I skip thru most of the time because you are longwinded and boring. Sorry for being rude, because I am not usually (Canadians are very polite people).

    I miss hearing comments from the old crew: Gabri, GiGi etc.

    Personally I think Steve Amell would make an awesome Gideon, he has the looks, body and talent.

    Sorry if I have offended you but I really can't take this no more. I love this site.

     

    This went beyond rude. It was offensive to Canadians, dragged in other commentors by name, and was disrespectful to the entire forum, which includes Sylvia Day. It's what's known as an Internet troll attack, and whoever posted this is not sorry.

     

    I'm responding not to take the flamebait, which only feeds a troll. I'm posting to say I'm sorry to see someone tried to disrupt the place. But even more importantly, please don't let this spoil everyone elses enjoyment, or worse worry about being attacked too.

     

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  2. Then there's Nathan as a TV character? In the books, we never see present day Nathan, because Eva never comes face to face with him when he's in New York? But if the TV series wanted to have scenes where Eva isn't in them, stuff about Nathan that Eva later was told about by other people (Gideon, Monica) then Nathan definitely would be way up on the cast list?

     

    Like when Nathan went to Gideon's office? Would there be an action scene on the screen of them fighting? Gideon eventually told Eva about Nathan's visit to the Crossfire, weeks later when they were alone together in their lovenest. If a script stuck strictly to the book scenes, then the stuff on the screen would be of GidEva talking. How about an action scene with Nathan attacking Cary, something that happened while Eva was hundreds of miles away? Or forensic scenes of the dead body in the hotel room? Eva was told about that stuff by Detective Graves, but she never saw any of it with her own eyes.

     

    If there was a present-day Nathan appearing on screen, I would list him right after Cary and just ahead of Corrine.

  3. Anyone want to re-arrange the cast of characters? I go back and forth on whether to list Eva or Gideon first. A lot of the fantasy casting lists start with Gideon, but in the books, Eva is in every single scene, because we get the story from inside her mind. If the TV series followed that format, Eva would be in every single scene, while Gideon would be in a lot of them, but not all.

     

    How about moving Mark up just higher than Angus, given the amount of screen time that actor would get in all three seasons? (If Season One was Bared To You, Season Two Reflected in You, Season Three Entwined With You?) Does he count more than Angus simply because Mark interacts directly with Eva more frequently than Angus? Because Mark would appear all the time while Eva's at work, and her career is crucial to her? Or is Angus more important, because he's Gideon's father figure and Eva's protector?

  4. Anyone up for some fun creating our own "Dreamcast" lists? If this were me, and the TV series was at the end of, let's say Season Three, Entwined With You, here is how I would have the cast credits roll on the screen at the end of the season finale episode:

     

    Eva Tramell/Cross

    Gideon Cross

    Cary Taylor

    Corrine Giroux

    Deanna Johnson

    Brett Kline

    Monica Stanton

    Victor Reyes

    Angus McLeod

    Mark Garrity

    Christopher Vidal Jr.

    Magdalene Perez

    Detective Shelley Graves

    Elizabeth Vidal

    Ireland Vidal

    Dr. Terry Lucas

    Dr. Anne Lucas

    Jean-Francois Giroux

    Megumi

    Tatianna Cherlin

    Trey

    Richard Stanton

    Benjamin Clancy

    Dr. Petersen

    Parker Smith

    Raul

    Steven Ellison

    Arnoldo Ricci

    Detective Mincha

    Chris Vidal Sr.

    Scott

    Shawna Ellison

    Martin Stanton

    Lacey

    Partners at the advertising agency (I'm spacing those three names)

    Then list the names of various walk-on characters here, actors/actresses who would appear on the screen briefly in one scene, but have at most a couple of lines of dialog. Some wouldn't talk at all, and some the characters wouldn't even have a name.

    Members of Six-Ninths

    Daniel

    Emergency room doctor

    Corrine Giroux's father

    Corrine Giroux's mother

    Receptionist at Crossfire Industries.

     

    I'm sure I missed some people, but at least I remembered people like Brett and Deanna.

  5. I saw that "Dreamcast" column, and while I will say the writer who created it was spot on about how she described each character, overall she made some very serious mistakes that make me wonder whether she even read Entwined With You? The way she's set up her list, you'd think she stopped halfway through Reflected In You, at the point where GidEva's relationship imploded?

     

    Number one - she forgot Brett entirely. Number two, she forgot Deanna entirely. Number three: she forgot Detective Graves entirely. Number four, she missedJean-Francois Giroux entirely. Number five, she forgot Anne Lucas entirely. She missed some other noteworthy people too, like Arnoldo. But missing Brett and Deanna was huge, missing Detective Graves and Jean-Francois was sloppy research, and overlooking Anne Lucas was missing the cliffhanger ending of Entwined With You..

     

    Mistake number six: the way she assigned every other character to particular categories made no sense. The only other people who counted as "Main Players" besides Gideon, Eva and Cary were GidEva's parents/step-parents. Since when is Chris Vidal Sr. a "Main Player?" He's a secondary character.

     

    Number seven: people who definitely should have instead been in the "Main Players" category instead got lumped down at the very bottom of the list in her "Last But Not Least" category. Like Angus. Terry Lucas too. With the sole exception of Shawna, the one thing the six people have in common in the "Last" category is that right now or at some point in the past, they've been paid by GidEva and/or one of more of GidEva's parents. So the "Last" list is main up of servants or paid professionals, like doctors.

     

    I think Angus counts a lot more as a character than Chris Vidal Sr. Angus is practically a father to Gideon and is literally at his side every single day. And Gideon trusts Angus not only with his life but trusts Angus with Eva's life too. By contrast, Gideon barely sees his mother and stepfather.

     

    Here's a link to the list:  http://www.heroesandheartbreakers.com/blogs/2013/11/on-the-fantasy-casting-couch-sylvia-days-crossfire-series

     

    Oh and she misspelled Tramell as Trammell. Although that's a goof that a proofreader should either have caught, or possibly have made?

  6. I listened to Closer when reading Gabriel's Inferno, and when hotreads posted it here I thought "Can't believe it".

    Of course we women can enjoy hot hard sex as well as we can enjoy tender lovemaking depending on the mood or the moment, but desecration? violation? Where's respect or self-respect?. As far as I know (and forgive me if I'm not understanding this properly, english is not my first language) violation, in a sexual context, means rape, and after what they both have been through linking this song to any of their encounters is a joke in poor taste.

     

    To me, this song could only fit two "relationships" (if), the one Eva had with Nathan and the one Gideon had with Hugh.

     

    I love that we can have spirited discussion here about a song. Kinda fitting because a song, Golden, is a crucial part of the Crossfire love story. Gideon hates the song, and he and Eva both hate the music video. And here, Brett's one of the characters who we love to debate. Some hate him, some think he's OK, some go back and forth hashing out him as a character here?

     

    I haven't read Gabriel's Inferno, Gaia -- are the song lyrics themselves in the story, not just the song title? That's interestering if the author got copyright permission to use them? One of my favorite authors, Stephen King, often gets copyright permission to include song lyrics in his novels, giving the songs interesting turns to set moods -- scary moods in his case, because he's a master at the horror genre. So if Nine Inch Nails allowed an author to use lyrics, that means whoever holds the copyright is very open to granting permission for authors to use its work, and so probably equally open to permission to let TV/film producers use its songs too?

     

    Your English is excellent, by the way, coming across as truly bi-lingual. English, well the American version of it, is my only language, and I wish I knew more. I love foreign language films, like The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, I liked the original Swedish version of the movie better than the Hollywood remake. Given the choice between an original foreign movie with subtitles and a Hollywood remake, I always like originals better.

  7. I wonder about casting for and creating the music of Six-Ninths for the television series? Would the series producers tap into established musicians and previously-released songs for most of the the band's material, or, go with newly-discovered musical talent and have original music created? Will the producers look to cast musician-actors for the band members? Even go with a musician-actor to play Brett?

     

    I know lots of fans have wish lists of various actors/actresses, top of the list being Henry Cavill for Gideon? I'd like to see an actual musician play Brett, a previously unknown musican-actor getting a shot at real-life stardom in the series? It'd very much tap into the character Sylvia created, someone who becomes a star? As for the music to go with the lyrics of Golden, I hope the producers could sign a big-name composer to create original music to accompany the lyrics Sylvia created? And someone clever to write the song "Tapped That"?

  8. I think they fit the relationship well. The lyrics are basically talking about sex and all the feeling that go along with "animalistic sex", and from my understanding that kind of action makes you wanna act like you normally wouldn't. So, the lyrics fit pretty well considering the boundaries Eva allows Gideon to cross and the way he makes her feel. If you listen to the song you would most likely feel different.

     

    One of Gideon's hawter dirty-talking to Eva, the sex scene in that unfinished office at the Crossfire, is what leapt to mind when I heard "Closer" for the first time in a while on an online streaming radio station. Where he said - well panted, actually as he was nailing Eva on an office couch I suspect he's already bought for her was -- "I've captured an angel. And I put my greedy hands all over you. I defile you. And you love it." Almost in a sense of wonder as he says so, it comes across when you listen to the audiobook.

     

    Closer taps into a dom/sub dynamic, where one partner hands over control to the other, letting the other go wild. It clicked with me today one of the Captivated By You teasers quotes Sylvia has given us, Gideon saying, "I can do whatever I want to you. You've given me that right. It's the greatest gift I've ever been given."

     

    You get that if you actually listen to the song, the boundaries become clear, with the lyric phrase "You let me ... " repeated over and over.  And as you experience its pounding rock beat, whose tempo brings to mind a dom saying it as he's going at it, you can picture a couple having sheet-clawing sex. Er, for the nightclub scene, make that wall-clawing sex. "Animalistic sex" -- you pegged it and made a pun at the same time. Well played,  Ilurvegc. Perfect for "Primal."

     

    The group Nine Inch Nails recently reunited, and it'd be so cool if the Crossfire producers could tap into its music? Its lead singer, Trent Reznor, has done some serious work with Hollywood studios as a solo artist - he's a composer as well as a songwriter, and he does instrumental stuff as well as lyrics.  He worked on the Oscar-nominated film The Social Network, and he pretty much did the entire film score for the American-made version of The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.

  9. and god only knows what crazy arse Corinne has told her.

     

    Well, if kah-ray-zee-arse Corrine took the same deceptive approach with Deanna as Corrine had been to mess with Eva's mind, Corrine would have said Gideon had been in her apartment last night (true) and let Deanna make an assumption Gideon had sex with her? Maybe even let Deanna assume Gideon arranged for her to live right around the corner from him, set Corrine up in a lovenest? Tried feeding Deanna bull about how Gideon talks to her every day? That he's had Corrine come to the Crossfire? That's Corrine's usual manipulation M-O, and no matter how agitaged the psych drugs were making her, she probably was still capable of being the coniving little b i t c h. This is the sort of stuff Corrine would love for a reporter to repeat so it would get back to Eva?

     

    If Deanna took the same baiting approach with Corrine that Deanna had with Eva, she would have said Gideon only used Corrine to make Eva jealous enough to choose him over Brett? Tell Deanna how Eva had been kissing Brett after the New York concert several weeks earler, and Gideon caught them? Then point out to Corrine that Gideon went out of his way to get photographed with Corrine twice in the following days? Let Corrine do the math? Then hit Corrine with the Times Square photos taken earlier that night? Say something along the lines of Gideon is so bent on getting Eva back he sought to break-up Eva's evening with Brett?

     

    Questions: did Corrine turn hysterical in front of Deanna? And if so, what possibly could have come out of her mouth then? Because Corrine did go so hysterical Gideon ended up going to check on her again -- and calling Jean-Francois. Gideon told Eva as much later that night. So if Corrine melted down in front of Deanna, what might Deanna do with that info? Because for the first time, Deanna succeeded in getting one of Gideon's women to talk? (Eva refused to discuss Gideon with Deanna, as did Maggie.)

  10. There's a very explicit song, Closer, by Nine Inch Nails, that could be perfect for the nightclub sex scene when Crossfire is adapted for television.

     

    I won't post the full set of lyrics here - they're that raunchy. But part of the chorus says it all, "I want to (   ) you like an animal" -- fits right in with the animal theme at the Primal nightclub, a song made for dirty dancing and, well, ....

     

    Plus there are some lyrics that fit with Gideon being hawt about desecrating his Angel with raw s e x.

     

    You let me violate you,

    You let me desecrate you

    You let me p e n e t r a t e you

    You let me complicate you

     

    Anyone who wants to pull up the song on a music streaming service, like Spotify, two words:

     

    Use headphones

    or

    Listen alone

     

    Not a tune you want your kids, roommates, significant others overhearing. Well, maybe significant others.

  11. its obvious that D already knew about the Anne thing.. Im betting they are friendly..D quoted Terrys comment to Eva almost word for word...

    Im going say NO it wasn't Maggie that said anything. she a family friend as well. she also went to Eva to see if was going to talk to D about Gideon and was relieved to find out she wasn't.

     

    Gideon also said... If she was paying attention she would know how I feel about you. So that tells me that Deanna's gone to ALL the events... That in itself would ###### D off.

    D also commented on the fact that she ( EVA ) thawed the Iceman.

     

    Im sure Its public knowledge that the brothers hate each other.  Im betting D is friendly with Christopher and Lizzy because of all the partys they have, being a writer would give her a pass to those as well.

     

    and god only knows what crazy arse Corinne has told her.

     

    I wonder whether one or both of the Lucases has been trying to make Deanna their cat's paw? If you think about the first smear story Deanna was trying to build, that Gideon uses women and is dangerous, it sounds an awful lot like what Terry would have people believe? It's exactly the sort of stuff he tried to convince Eva of that time he caught her in a vulnerable moment in the hospital cafeteria. If Terry managed to sort of brainwash Deanna into that, it would explain her over-the-top reaction to wanting to nail Gideon? If this was the case as Entwined With You opened, is it still the case two weeks later, now that Deanna has had some limited contact with Gideon and Eva? Maybe figured out one or both of the Lucases were trying to use her?

  12. The Waldorf dinner and the event where GidEva's engagement was announced both come up three times when comparing press events and key characters. We know Deanna was at the engagement event. Was she also at the Waldorf dinner? Having seen pictures of GidEva as a couple, and guessing correctly they'd be at that charity fundraiser, she attended? And eavesdropped? Gideon was so focused on micro-managing Corrine, he hadn't even noticed Terry Lucas eating dinner at his table, much less noticed Maggie eavesdropping one table over. I'll bet he wouldn't have even noticed Deanna at all?

     

    If you think about the things Deanna could have overheard, a lot makes sense later about the approaches Deanna took. Based on things Corrine, Terry Lucas and Maggie said and did in Eva's presence, Deanna could have made certain connections, and it makes sense why she would later ambush all three women? Corrine left Gideon all those years ago because his possessiveness scared her? Plants the "dark side" and violence ideas in Deanna's head? The timing of Corrine learning about the new GidEva relationship and her deciding to come back to New York? The idea Gideon tried to make Corrine jealous enough to come back? The fact Maggie viewed Corrine as the main threat? That Gideon did end up dumping Eva for Corrine? Maggie finally giving up on Gideon? The hope that Maggie might be bitter, and so it was worth trying to cultivate Maggie as a source?

     

    Most of all, the Terry-Gideon argument. Deanna would have learned Terry Lucas' name and seen that he and Gideon hated one another. This makes sense why Deanna later said to Eva almost the same thing Terry had weeks before: Gideon's money does not give him the right to order Eva around? Also, Deanna may have already known about the affair Gideon and Anne Lucas had? Now she knew where to find Terry?

     

    I think Deanna filed away everything she learned at the Waldorf dinner about Eva, Corrine and Maggie, and drew her own incorrect conclusions about how each of the three women stood with Gideon? Then sometime soon after, sought out Terry Lucas, maybe at his office? And Terry Lucas poured poison into her mind, like he tried to poison Eva's. Maybe with Deanna, he succeeded, and that's why she's so bent on revenge now? Terry's managed to put the one-night-stand into an evil context, that Gideon is a monster?

  13. I've been thinking about the places where Deanna could have spoken with other characters or at least spied and eavesdropped, gathering crucial information. Looking for patterns trying to figure out what she learned? There are places we readers definitely can place Deanna, because Eva knows about them. Plus, there are some instances where there definitely had been reporters and Gideon present, so Deanna very likely could have been there?

     

    Places we can definitely put Deanna, in order:

    Society event where Gideon picked her up so he could avoid Anne Lucas.

    Ambushing Magdalene at work.

    Golden video premiere

    Ambushing Corrine at home.

    The night GidEva's engagement was announced.

     

    Places where there definitely were reporters, and Gideon was there, so it's possible Deanna covered one or more of the three:

    Advocacy center dinner

    Waldorf dinner

    Vodka publicity party

     

    OK, if I've missed any instances, jump in, but here are my counts for instances where Deanna definitely or possibly had the chance to get to other people -- or at the very least, spied on them.

     

    Maggie: two definite, two maybe. The definite: Deanna ambushing Maggie at work, and the night GidEva's engagement was announced. The maybes:  advocacy center dinner, Waldorf dinner.

    Anne Lucas: two definite. The event where Gideon picked up Deanna for a one-night stand, and the engagement announcement.

    Corrine: one definite, two maybe. Definite: Deanna ambushing Corrine at Corrine's apartment. Maybes: Waldorf dinner, vodka publicity event.

    Christopher: one definite, one maybe. Definite: the video premiere. Maybe: advocacy center

    Lizzie: one definite, engagement announcement.

    Brett: one definite, the video premiere

    Terry Lucas: one maybe, the Waldorf dinner.

  14. One last thought, well one of those fun fantasies I have .... Gideon insisting he's going to San Diego too - that he, Eva and Cary will fly out there in one of his jets. Then he's going to try to lay down the law with Eva, that he, as the moneyman behind Vidal Records, will deal with Brett, boss to artist. Eva's going to pull the wife card - that she and Gideon are now a business team. He's going to invoke the "honor and obey" part of the traditional wedding vows they took. She'll respond by telling him that doesn't mean he can be a caveman. Then she'll pull the crisis management card -- if Gideon is so insistent on her joining Cross Industries, bringing her talents with her, well she can start using her talents by dealing with the Six-Ninths crisis.

     

    So there. Sounds kinda fun, doesn't it. Gideon has that nervous tick of running a hand through his hair when stressed, running both hands through his hair when really stressed about Eva. The guy's gonna be pulling his hair out?

  15. Yeah, yeah, all along, Eva's been telling Brett she wants to be just friends, nothing more. Know what -- that'd been Gideon's tune with Corrine, as well. Uh huh. And what did Corrine also see? Gideon and Eva argue the first time Corrine saw them as a couple. Gideon quit spending time with Eva, and him obviously miserable. Gideon spending time with Corrine in front of the press? What's Brett seen? Gideon furious with Eva. Eva miserable, having just been "dumped." Eva walking away from Gideon in Times Square, speding time with Brett in front of the press.

     

    Poor Brett's been being led on, unconsciously by Eva, because her old insecurities stirred up by the very thought of Corrine. But at least Eva's not calculatedly manipulating him. Gideon, when desperate, played the emotions of Eva and Corrine both, and Gideon is still paying the price.

     

    Know who Eva needs to see this weekend in San Diego. Dr. Travis. Who can make her figure out it's her insecurities that are causing the Brett problem. Gideon, ahem, had s c r e w e d the obvious answer out of her the night she'd kissed Brett. The good doctor knows her "issues" even better than Gideon, and moreover can be objective. So let Gideon deal with handling Brett and the sex tape goes. Let Eva and Cary shoot hoops with Dr. Travis and get help straightening out the upheaval both of them have gone through since moving to New York.

  16. When it comes to Brett, I'm leaning toward sscrph. I think he will turn out to be one of the good guys just like Magdalene did. Maggie genuinely loves Gideon enough to want him happy, not want him for herself at any cost. So what if Brett finally -- and really for the first time -- sees proof that Gideon makes Eva happy, not miserable like Eva had been these past few weeks Brett has been back in Eva's life? Will all it take for Brett to give up is to see with his own eyes that Gideon and Eva love one another? Just like Maggie's eyes were opened the night she saw Gideon run after Eva?

  17. Tossing out an alternate Deanna-Christopher Jr. theory -- what if Christopher knows about the sex tape but is trying to stop it from getting out? Because he doesn't want Eva's social standing destroyed? How's this for a theory?

     

    At the video premiere, Deanna, who has been cultivating Christopher as a source for some time, tells him about the sex tape version? When Christopher tried to talk to Gideon at the premiere, it was to tell him about it, ask him for advice, even give Gideon the warning about an imminent auction so that Gideon could be the highest bidder? Granted, that'd be way out of character for Christopher, going to Gideon for help. Yeah, he hates his brother's guts. But Christopher genuinely seems to like Eva? And maybe when Deanna told Christopher Jr., hoping to get him to cooperate on an expose, Christopher refused?

  18. And now we have to wait until March at the earliest for Aftershock, a novel where Deanna might make some direct or indirect appearance. At the end of Afterburn, Gia had hoped Deanna might know things to help Gia uncover Jax's mysterious past. It's the same Deanna. I had hoped that on Tuesday, we readers might have been able to glean some tidbits about her.

  19. Then there's Deanna wanting to ambush Eva. What was she hoping to accomplish? Be able to describe in a story Eva's reaction to the existence of the sex tape? Or use the knowledge as a means to blackmail Eva? How? Break up GidEva? And get a payoff from Gideon? A strange form of history repeating itself, because when Nathan went to Gideon with his sexual video/pictures of Eva, that's exactly what Nathan hoped to accomplish? 1. Get Gideon disgusted enough to drop Eva, and 2. Get Gideon to pay him money to suppress the images?

     

    Gideon was smart enough to know that paying Nathan would never have worked, and actually probably would have made matters worse. Gideon thinks he's successfully bought off Deanna, though. Has Gideon made a gross miscalculation there? Because as smart as he is, he can be really stupid about women? An apology and money was going to appease Deanna? I don't think she's psycho like Nathan, but she could be bent on hurting Gideon, not getting him in the sack a second time? If she genuinely thinks Gideon treated her like a w h o r e, then Gideon trying to pay her would backfire?

     

    Too, when Deanna ambushed Eva for the second time at Eva's apartment building, Deanna unexpectedly got a two-fer, because Brett was there too. Deanna made her last stab trying to get Brett to confirm the fist fight, but Brett wouldn't play ball. Maybe if Brett had not been there and obviously covering GidEva's butt, would Deanna have hit Eva with the sex tape news? Or why didn't Deanna hit both of them at the same time about the sex tape? Maybe because Deanna figured out Brett would simply cover his and Eva's -- and Vidal Records' -- b u t t s by running to Gideon?

     

    BTW, I don't think Sam the video guy works for Six-Ninths. I don't think he ever did. Eva described Sam as someone who had been a "wannabee". If Sam had been with the band and in any way involved with making the commerical Golden video, he would have been in New York for the premiere, and still traveling with the band. Instead, he was out in California somewhere. Because that's where Gideon went to deal with Sam.

  20. Now here's the thing, why would Christopher Jr. tell a slimy reporter like Deanna, knowing she would run with a story that would devastate Eva's social standing? Is Christopher really such a creep that he would allow Eva to become collateral damage? That's the one big hole in my theory.

     

    Is Christopher such a "bitter enemy" that he would stand back and watch Eva's social standing get destroyed, purely for revenge against Gideon? Does Christopher know about the fist fight between Gideon and Brett? Assume wrongly that Gideon dumped Eva over it? Christopher thinks the way to rub salt in Gideon's wounds was to let the world find out the woman Gideon had gone gaga for over the summer was a s l u t, and Gideon found this out the hard way? Sadly, she used to be one, and she's the first to admit it -- but then Dr. Travis helped her get her head on straight.

     

    Or was the decision to let the news about the sex tape get out simply a stupid business decision by a man with a history of making really stupid decisions? Gideon, god of the entertainment industry, knows that tarnishing the image of the Golden love song would be bad for business. He told Eva as much. Was Christopher stupid enough to think the controversy would drive sales of the song, sale of concert tickets, even higher?

  21. IM going to say that Lizzy  thought Corinne was back in the picture, that is why Im sure Gideon was called to the hosp. Jean was really checking Eva out at that drink. he is a wise man and he said he saw the ring mark. He Im sure jumped at the chance to Tell Corinne that Gideon moved on hoping her could get his wife back..he as much as told that to Eva.

     

    This is what is baffling me.. the next morning Gideon told eva about that tape.. He ALSO said Deanna caught up with him in the lobby..Lets think about this.. EVA"S LOBBY. she was waiting to ambush Eva and got Gideon instead. So Deanna knew about the tape..Who told her is my question.. and she is ONLY rattling Gideon's cage not helping him..

     

    So I want to know who backing Deanna's information.. Christopher?

     

    I think you're right, that Deanna was in Eva's lobby that night planning to ambush her again, just like Deanna ambushed Eva in the first chapter of Entwined With You.

     

    Personally, I'm convinced Christopher Jr. is Deanna's source about the sex tape. How this for some theories?

     

    Deanna knows about the hatred between the two brothers? She's observed how they act around one another in high-society settings where she's been covering, sniffing around for stories? It wouldn't take much asking around to uncover that there's bad blood between Gideon and Christopher? So as soon as Deanna launched her plan to smear Gideon, she started cultivating Christopher as a source? He'd be a natural choice if she were seeking to unearth stuff in Gideon's past.

     

    So Sam Yimara recreates the Golden video with real sex-tape footage of Eva and Brett, and he starts shopping around for a buyer. Was Vidal Records the first place he tried? Figuring the record label would pay to suppress the tape? Though Chris Sr. heads the company, Christopher Jr. does much of the hands-on management -- or mismanagement in his case, nearly running the label into the ground, which is why Gideon financially rescued the company.

  22. I have a question for everyone.  We know that Lizzie called Gideon to the hospital for Corrine's OD/suicide attempt.  We also know that Corrine's parents talked to him and as JFG said to Eva, you would think  that Gideon was the husband instead of him.  My question is how did Lizzie know about the attempt and show up at the hospital?  Would Corrine's parents have called Lizzie?  Did Corrine call Lizzie or maybe Christopher Jr when she took the pills since Gideon was not taking her calls? 

     

    Guess the reason I am asking is that this all goes to state of mind of certain people - I am especially thinking about Corrine, Lizzie and maybe even Christopher Jr.  If Corrine took pills and then called someone (Lizzie or Christopher Jr) then it was definitely a manipulation of the situation and she fully expected to be found (cry for help or way to get Gideon's attention!).   Then there is the question of why Lizzie would even call Gideon.  It is not as though Gideon was going to be able to do anything there at the hospital except wait with the family - and JFG was already there!  I can't help but wonder what Lizzie was thinking. 

     

    More questions to throw out there, how did Corrine reconnect with the Vidal family?

     

    Did Lizzie re-establish contact with Corrine as soon as Gideon appeared to have gotten back together with Corrine? Maybe Lizzie was hoping Corrine could be the means by which Lizzie could bridge the estrangement with her son? Has Lizzie been pulling for Corrine all along? Or did Lizzie suddenly turn pro-Corrine after Eva confronted Lizzie about having been a bad mother? As the saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" -- and so as Eva's enemy, Corrine was now Lizzie's friend?

     

    Or was Corrine the one who first re-established contact with Gideon's family? And if so, when? Soon after Corrine came back to New York? Or was it when Gideon started taking her out? Or when he cut her off by telling Corrine the two of them should not spend time together anymore? Has Corrine been trying any means possible to get close to Gideon, desperation that included getting close to his family, even though he barely talked to his relatives? Part of her stalking?

     

    Avid Reader is right - questions like this go to Lizzie's state of mind. Why was Lizzie at the hospital, and why did she call Gideon? What was Lizzie hoping to accomplish on Corrine's behalf?

  23. Uggghhhh....when is this book coming out?!  Just saw on Amazon that Afterburn got pushed to MARCH! March! Seriously??

     

    Well, at least we can't blame that on Penguin. Afterburn is a different publisher. But Sylvia's been burned -- no pun intended -- yet again by a publisher. No wonder she wants the Captivated By You release date 101% set in stone before she tells the fandom.

  24. I have a question for everyone.  We know that Lizzie called Gideon to the hospital for Corrine's OD/suicide attempt.  We also know that Corrine's parents talked to him and as JFG said to Eva, you would think  that Gideon was the husband instead of him.  My question is how did Lizzie know about the attempt and show up at the hospital?  Would Corrine's parents have called Lizzie?  Did Corrine call Lizzie or maybe Christopher Jr when she took the pills since Gideon was not taking her calls? 

     

    Guess the reason I am asking is that this all goes to state of mind of certain people - I am especially thinking about Corrine, Lizzie and maybe even Christopher Jr.  If Corrine took pills and then called someone (Lizzie or Christopher Jr) then it was definitely a manipulation of the situation and she fully expected to be found (cry for help or way to get Gideon's attention!).   Then there is the question of why Lizzie would even call Gideon.  It is not as though Gideon was going to be able to do anything there at the hospital except wait with the family - and JFG was already there!  I can't help but wonder what Lizzie was thinking. 

     

    Throwing out two additional sets of related questions:

     

    1. Who convinced Gideon to go Corrine's apartment the week before the OD, where he had that conversation that convinced him 1. antidepressants were making Corrine worse and 2. it was time for him to call JFG? Was it Christopher Jr.? Or Lizzie?

     

    Because the night of the video premiere, Corrine was calling Christopher. We readers know that, because Eva was standing right there when Christopher snarked to his brother that if Gideon did not want to talk to Corrine, Gideon should not have gone to see her the night before. We also know, because Eva snooped into his cell phone the following week, Gideon hadn't called Corrine himself in a while and apparently was letting Corrine's calls go to voice mail. So we know Corrine was trying to get at Gideon via his brother. It stands to reason she was also trying to get at Gideon via his mother? Stupid -- shows just how little Corrine knew the real Gideon.

     

    2. How did JFG correctly guess, the Monday after GidEva's secret wedding trip, that the tan line on Eva's hand gave away the fact she'd been given an engagement ring? How so accurate a guess? Because Eva was not wearing the ring at the time she met with JFG. Was this because Lizzie knew about Gideon getting her old engagement ring? And if so, had Lizzie jumped to the wrong conclusion the engagement ring was for Corrine? And if so, and was in direct contact with Corrine, did Lizzie tell Corrine about it? Was poor delusional Corrine thinking the ring was meant for her? Had JFG somehow found out, too?

     

    When JFG asked Eva if she was engaged, Eva asked him to keep his speculation to himself. But JFG walked away from that meeting convinced he now had a shot at getting his wife back. And at some point, he told Corrine about the engagement. Because fast forward to the hospital waiting room, where Eva got JFG to confirm he'd told Corrine. JFG claimed the news is what led to the OD. When did JFG tell Corrine? When did she swallow the bottle of pills? Immediately? Or did she wait? After taking the pills, did she call for help? Who? Or did someone find her? If so, who?

  25. Last word on Brett, well for today, that is. Know who needs to make Brett go away? Eva. She needs to Cut. The. Guy. Off. It's not like he's been stalking her. She keeps agreeing to see him. Took him out to lunch. Went with him to the video premiere. Took him out to dinner. Even invited him back to her apartment. Yeesh, Eva, talk about mixed messages. Ya think? Well, now that she's taken vows to "foresake all others" Brett needs to be the first on the foresaken list. Maybe the upcoming visit to San Diego involves her telling Brett goodbye, that it wouldn't be appropriate for them to even be friends anymore?

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