Sandra_1705

14 minutes ago, D500 said:

She began writing Bared in 2011 so presumably the entire series took place that year or maybe 2012.  Ireland was 17.  So in 2016 Ireland is 21/22.  Maybe she needs to be 24 (like Eva was) so we may have to wait a couple of years.  No problem with that as we have the Blacklist books to come and fill the interim.

Or it can mean that Ireland is NOW 17...I think "not being underage" in the US means 21?(Where i come from it's 18)...So we have to wait at least 4 years? If I'm correct...

51 minutes ago, shan12 said:

And in Captivated...I'm sure Deanna told him that the book was being released that following Monday , so how now is it that it isn't even written ??? another fact that is out of order.

It says "'She's sold a tell-all book about your relationship,' she said redundantly. 'The release officially hits wire Monday morning at nine.'"

 

 

8 hours ago, Socal said:

I'm probably rambling, but I was thinking that this is a series that could have went on for 10+ books, they could have started production on the T.V series even though the books weren't finished. I think that there are like 8+ books in the Games of Thrones series and it is probably one of the most popular series on HBO, and the books are still super popular even though the author has been stalling on the last book in the series for a while. But that's probably not going to happen.

I think there would have been a HUGE outrage, because originally, there should have been 3, then 5...., but in the End, yeah, there was/is so much going on. Maybe if Sylvia does right a book about Ireland, it is her way to continue the series? 

 

3 hours ago, Mella said:

Did anyone tell Victor about Monica's story. At least he would know that she wasn't a self serving gold-digger and maybe would have been with him if not for the money she needed for her sister.

I first thought, that it was Victor, who "cleaned up" everything, not Clancy. =)

Sylvia just said on Twitter, that she will write a book for Ireland...Maybe THAT's why we didn't get a conclusion to everything? Because in an Ireland-book, there will be more about the future of Gideon/Eva, Trey, Chris, Christopher...even Gideon's mother?!

7 hours ago, sscrph said:

Yes but she's brain-dead so I don't see where that can go...

 

I also think it's brain-damage, not brain-dead, because it was mentioned, that Monica wrote her letters and that Katherine was able to talk- just in a "childish"-manner...

6 hours ago, sscrph said:

Favorite Angus quote of the book: "Let's not muck it up this time lad..."  ???? 

Yes! Together with the "Too pretty for your own good... Hard to say nay, when you're randy, and they're lifting their skirts." =) =) =)

 

4 hours ago, BettyY37 said:

Having read the entire series from beginning to end during the past week, I wonder after finishing the fifth book for the second time if the whole story was outlined in 2012

Yeah...

 

3 hours ago, Stelladeer said:

Would anyone like to hear what Sylvia has to say about the comments on her fan community site (not including amazon or goodreads)?  

Yes...I would definitely like to know.

 

3 hours ago, D500 said:

Regarding past hints of a bdsm type when Gideon phoned Eva to tell her the dog had woken him from a nightmare she said maybe the dog couldn't sleep through the noise Gideon was making and his response was 'I feel the sudden urge to take you ver my knee and spank you, angel' her response 'Try it, babe.  Se what happens' and him thinking 'I knew what would happen.  She was the one who couldn't see it, yet.'  ?????  We didn't find more out than that (unless I find anything in my re-read).

Yes, I was thinking the same...

 

54 minutes ago, Rogue said:

This is a conversation (from Bared to You) between Gideon and Eva in a VIP section of one of his clubs. There he is afraid of being overheard simply discussing sex, but a few months before he was supposedly performing sex acts on 2 women in a similar environment! 

"I can't get you alone for more than a few minutes at a time." - G
"Because the only thing you want to talk about is what you have to do to get laid!" - E
"Christ, Eva," he hissed, squeezing my hand. "Keep your voice down!" 

This part of the book really frustrated me. There was no need to contradict a message that had been reinforced throughout the 4 previous books to create drama betweenGideva. It was just so unnecessary. Especially as Eva would likely have had a similar reaction to something more innocent like a woman straddling and kissing him,which would have been more realistic and true to his character. 

yup...

 

43 minutes ago, D500 said:

Lots of people are posting that the book does not have closure because of the things we did not learn but how could we learn about Cary's baby when the book ends around 7 months (?) before the baby is due?  Mark and Stephen's wedding is still some way away, there's not been time for Corinne/Deanna to actually write the book and although Anne Lucas has been arrested, Gideon and Eva are on honeymoon and are not bothering to check in on the news of where she stands.  Gideon had words with his mother, realised she would never change so what more could be done there?  Christopher was coming round to liking Gideon but for Gideon he still has to learn to accept others into his life, he's only just begun on that path.  But lovely to see his relationship with Chris and Ireland going well.  And Angus.

But why the build-up of everything, and then not include it? Didn't even realize, that we're missing Mark and Stephen's Wedding as well...=/

 

I actually thought, that it was just me, who was missing all these points/issues/whatever, and was at first a little bit frightened to write my "review"...but, seemingly, I'm not the only one...

And after reading "all" of your thoughts, and that it wasn't just  me...anyone else got the feeling,that some parts just feel like someone else wrote them? And not Sylvia? Like the "don't act in public"-thing and then the picture of Gideon in the nightclub--> Maybe we were all wrong, and maybe, just maybe it does make sense and we were just wrong, ok.But IF not, IF we were right about it: Would Sylvia really make such a mistake?

25 minutes ago, Nrock said:

One thing I thought was very clever of Day was to introduce the puppy as a partial solution to the on going problem of Gideon's violent nightmares.  I don't know how much truth or science there is to it, but it certainly sounds plausible that a dog sleeping nearby might pick up on distress or some kind of bad vibes emanating from his master and provide an early warning wake up.  Much nicer than just relying on pills and years of therapy. And, as Eva says, he's a source of unconditional love for someone who hasn't received much.  

Those beagle pics were SO cute!

There are dogs who can "predict" an epileptic seizure minutes before the person notices ANYTHING...there is def. truth and science behind it, although, I have to admit, these dogs are trained for it(and therefore really expensive), BUT it does work!

Just found a link: http://www.epilepsy.com/get-help/staying-safe/seizure-dogs

18 minutes ago, eve said:

Theoretically: Gideon didn't have sex with two women in club.

No, but he rarely(?) did have sex with the women in the F***p** either...He took them there to use them...

3 minutes ago, eve said:

The "doesn't make sense"-issues.... Can anyone explain? Please...

To me, it doesn't make sense that...

e.g. This picture of Gideon had been taken, because the way I understood it, Gideon had his F***p**, and didn't interact sexually anywhere else...maybe I misunderstood?; Eva's quick(?) healing after her mother died; Clancy's quick explanation at the end of the book about Monica's backstory- yes, I know, there were clues about *something*, but *hm*; Eva's not sensing that Gideon didn't tell her something(the evening when her mother died;..when Gideon and Dr peterson discussed that gideon wants Eva all for himself, and Eva tried to share him with everyone(basically), he brings the issue later up with Eva, but somehow it gets resolved too quickly, and starts to like "other people" too quickly..the way some thing we thought were really important and an huge issue, were resolved rather quickly, and some others, which haven't been mentioned before, were *hm* focused on?(focused is the wrong word here...too strong...when I remember the right one, I switch it out =)

There are a lot of things, BUT- as I said before- maybe I have to reread it, because I didn't get/comprehend it all due to lack of sleep?!

There are also SOOOOOOO many things that I loved...and the were all in the first part of the book...so maybe it IS because I just couldn't comprehend it all at once =)

I LOVED the puppy scene(I can't get a dog-*Sure you can-I don't want a dog-*Sure you do), I LOVED the scenarios with Dr Peterson, Loved how Gideon opened up, due to Eva..I loved when Gideon confronted his mother- even though it has a deep, and important, and not funny it all...it just is/was so important; I loved that we got to know more about Angus; when Gideon showed up at Eva's farewell-party, when he finally relaxed and realized, that that moment, when Eva and Lucky and he were in Bed, felt like home...I LOVED, that we got the feeling, that Gideon ist healing, and happy....

 

33 minutes ago, shan12 said:

 And in the 4 prior books he makes comments and thoughts that he never was in to sexual acts in public, that what he did with Eva that first meeting in his office where they ended up on the couch and Scott interrupted was so out of line for him.  Also he has commented in Captivated that what happened in Eva's apartment in Bared to You, when she was in her silk robe and he came to ask her to be his date to a dinner and he opened the robe and teased her and made her come...that behavior for him had never happened in the past....only at his F$%# pad....He says he wanted EVA so bad couldn't wait and that was new to him!!!   But this picture he contradicted himself. If the woman were aggressive, he would dominate them...in his hotel room. 

 

Yep...asked myself that same questions....to my understanding, he was only "doing this stuff" in the F***p**.

 

I don't feel disappointed...maybe still confused...and maybe some things need time to fall into place...

 

For me, there are at one side the "doesn't make sense"-issues, and on the other side the"no closure"-issues...I was thinking a lot about the "no closure"-issues today: Readers always want(ok, maybe not always, but we tend to want it) everything tied up, so that we feel the book/story is finished, and there's is nothing more to add. But, maybe, we look at it from a fall perspective: Life itself isn't a one-sided story, with a beginning and an end. This story isn't finished. And it's not like we, and all of our friends find love/happiness, etc all at once... and so, we were just allowed to accompany/follow  Gideon and Eva for a short period of their lifes. Their lives, and all of their friends' lifes goes on...It that way, we actually never ever have to say goodbye to all of them(maybe except Monica), in that way, the story is unique...and in that way, again, it just feels so REAL....

9 minutes ago, sme said:

Dear Sandra, 

I understand you in many ways and yes, I´ve read all what you did say! To introduce completely new plotlines (Anne Lucas&murder attempt of Gideon and the backstory around Eva´s mother death and background) was too much. The other things should have been addressed more. Suddenly they seem not to be any problem at all! 

Mark Garrety working now for Gideon .. how is this going?

Well, I have myself one more major complaint and this is everything around Monica Lauren Tramell Baker ... Stanton´s death and murder: 

- Where was Clancy´s Team? Why did his team fail to protect Monica?

- Why we don´t get the funeral and what happened there?

- Eva does deal much too quick with the death of her mother ... only after two - three weeks she is more or less not any more sad and happy in the honeymoon? This is so not real for her intensive and complicated relationsship with her mother and how her mother influenced her thoughts and feelings and reactions. There should be the five stages of grief for a person just so close to her life. And then these dreams about her mother ... yes, people dream about their recent died loved ones .. but this is for me a bit too soon ... much too soon neatly wrapped up. 

- Eva just accepts the past of her mother without feeling betrayed? No anger .. even a little bit there? No inner turmoil? And Gideon already told her everything in the honeymoon? 

- Clancy´s narration of Lauren Tramell´s story in one sitting? Not a good style and far too complex for the ending of the whole series. Much to many new twists and plots to insert at this late stage of a series. And what are really Clancy´s motive behind keeping his mouth shut? No reason given at all .. was he himself in love with her or somehow?

 

 

sme

 

Thank You!

 

Regarding Clancy's Team- Yep, thought so as well....I wouldn't go so far as to say it was his fault, but just maybe some small guilt-feelings?

Funeral- My thoughts as well...

Eva's healing-yeah...I actually wondered, why they would go on honeymoon, if Eva's mother recently died...

Clancy's narration- When the "Monica is not who she says she is" first came up, I was like- huh? ok? where does this suddenly came from?, Then I felt a huge build-up to this story...and then again- in one sitting resolved? just like that? *hm*

 

Somehow the last bit of the book didn't fit...also Gideon's reaction, his thoughts..I understand, that he didn't know how to tell Eva, that her mother died- but Eva ALWAYS sensed when Gideon was hiding something...not this evening? And the next day- when Gideon talked to Chris about Hugh and whether he believes that Christopher was raped as well...The transition from *not talking at all* to *talking with his stepfather* about it, want somehow to quickly...

 

I don't know...while reading it, e.g. when they were siting at the table(charity) and Eva worried about the Lucases- Gideon fell backing his old behavior, to distract Eva with sex(actually really filthy words, but you know what I mean)..and then again, when Gideon didn't tell Eva about her mother right away..again old behavior...for a small amount of time, I didn't think, that they would make it(as in "having a HEA")....but then everything resolved so quickly...I know, and I said before, that there was a lot of amazing character development...but it seemed too quickly...then again, maybe it was just really lack of sleep...

off-topic: Anyone else having difficulties logging-in? After a few minutes, the system itself logs me out, and then won't accept my password anymore...had to renew my password today for 3 times already =/

So, I also finished it last night =)(around 4AM, lol)

 

So.....if there are any grammar/understanding issues, I'm sorry, english is not my first language, but-feel free to point them out, I will try to describe it in other words =)

 

First of all, this book and Sylvia's writing hit so close to home in many points...it feels sometimes so real, I kind of started thinking "yeah, exactly, what I would have said/done/thought"...Gideon once said something like "good at believing what they wanted, and ignoring any proof to the contrary" about his mother(?)- this, and the reaction of her, when he confronted her- it was like he was talking about members of my family, who would/have react(ed) in the same way(as to believing what they wanted, and somehow force their own illusional world...regardless if others are left behind(just to clarify- no sexual abuse, but there are other ways...) I have NEVER read a book(or anything) that made me feel that way- a huge THANK YOU to Sylvia, you are truly an amazing writer! ......What I also loved was the characters development, the way they grew- Eva for example, when you compared her to the first book, where she herself needed help, to now, where she git help, healed, and was able to help others(Gideon in this case, so that he would open up more)- she wanted to help him in the other books as well, but I got the feeling, the she always pushed and pushed(often too much)- She didn't do that in OWY...she wanted him to open up, to FEEL- and did this this time(e.g.) with Lucky...because animals love unconditionally...there were so many situations, that I simply loved...because(as I said) they felt real.....and have to tip my (imaginary) hat to Sylvia, that she's able to write like that! Thank You!! You are amazing!!

 

But(sorry), there are also bits I don't really understand...I always had the feeling, that(in the previous books) there was not-so-little focus on Gideon's and Eva's sexual relationship-development--> that Eva is actually submissive, and Gideon is working his way "in", Eva was bound, they experienced a little bit with pain, they had the swing....maybe a missed something, but....?...Then, what happens to Cary/Trey/Tat? I understand, that it is Eva's and Gideon's story, and the evolved to a point, where they able (as Sylvia said) to manage their problems on their own- I got that feeling, also with Cary...but still*hm*...something is missing somehow...

The last 15-20% I didn't understand...maybe I have to read it again, and it was also due to lack of sleep...but the complex story of Monica's background? And that she got shot? By a patient of Anne? That last part was somehow too complex, too much(?), and, on the other hand, the issue with the book, and Anne, and Corinne, and Brett got too easily solved(also Christopher)? I don't know...maybe I really have to read it again, but, to me, it felt like there was a huge build-up to the book, and Anne, and Corinne(maybe also Brett), and Christopher...and then got easily solved, but other, new issues(Monica's past and death) arose out of nothing?! Right now, I'm really confused....Also, Eva's Job...And the dream-sequences, where they talk to their deceased loved-ones....I think I just have to read it again...

I would have also liked some look in the future...with a grown Lucky, Gideons finding out, that Eva's pregnant...would have been wonderful, BUT I also really really liked the Epilogue the way it is...and who knows? Maybe we get some short 'snippets' in the future?

 

If you made it that far- Thanks for reading!

 

 

BTW: regarding the book covers: "we" were right about the Pen belonging to Gideon's father- but I still don't know what the other book cover represents...someone else maybe?

I'm not so sure if Cary's the "bad guy", bc the moment Eva asked hin to stay with her at her mum's place, he went with her, and was there for her...would it be different, if HE had the troubles and asked Eva for help? I definitely think so..she would have stayed with Gideon...

Hy!

I'm back as well (although I haven't been as active as other members here

After the first read-through:

Wow.

Different.

Have now a complete different picture of Gideon...he is far more vulnerable than I thought when I read the first

3 books...first thought: not sure if I like it...second thought: Eva always said how vulnerable he is(in her own words)-->

maybe I just didn't get it there, and that's why he needed his own Voice in this book. Still Not sure what I should think of it...need time

Regarding corrine: I think the reason for the book is the same as for the suizid-attempt: her therapist...who might be Anne...just she doesn't know about the connecting between Gideon and her, bc he never told her...

...i know there won't be any 'real' date until you, Sylvia, announce it, but amazon just announced a releasing date for the german(!!) version of your book- october...

just saying...

...and far more darker!

I hate waiting :(

No .:/

The new excerpt is here!!!! Yay!!!!! Thought we had to wait till Feb 14!! Yayyyyy!!!! Thank you, Sylvia!!!

Thank You Sylvia!!

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