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 After seeing how detailed Eva was when she did research for Gideon (when she was trying to get ahead of Deanna) I find it hard to believe that Eva didn't realize that Landon was a big competitor of Gideon's. She might not know his family's history with G. Cross but she would know all of Lancorp's competitors. You have to have that information to prepare a decent campaign. I might not share everything that happens at work with my husband/fiance/boyfriend but I would certainly mention to him that I have a job working on his main competitor for a certain product. Why didn't Eva say something to Gideon before he even offered Mark a job?  I'm honestly upset with Eva in this book.Â

 I thought about the dinner conversation that Gideon heard a lot. It is possible that there was a conversation about the therapists' session one day and Gideon thought they were talking about him. He had to be very embarrassed and withdrawn after every session and the embarrassment was compounded after he told his mother about the abuse. He had to pull into himself more and tune out the people around him. It is possible in that situation he only heard part of a conversation and thought his mother told Chris when she was actually talking about something else.

Hey Fayeth,  You're right. In EWY after Eva argued with Clancy because he was tracking her she apologized and said  "Hey I'm sorry I took it out on you. You were doing a job and you didn't deserve to get bit.h at for it."  Clancy responded "You're not just a job, Miss Tramell."   I don't think it is ever mentioned but I got the impression that Staton told Clancy Eva's story. I also remember a conversation about his siblings and my guess is he looks on her as a sibiling more than a child. Of course it is possible that he sees the young child who was abused and wants to protect that child.Â

 According to Gideon in BTY He met Corinne his first year at Columbia so he would be 18 or 19 depending on when he started college. He went on to say "I guess you could say we dated. We were exclusive sexually and we often ended up going to the same places as a couple. Still, when she told me she loved me, I was surprised. And flattered. I cared about her. I enjoyed spending time with her." .... "I didn't want her to be with anyone else. So I said yes when she proposed."  ...."After two years of hanging out, we'd never spent the night together." "And maybe when she broke it off after a year,"... My guess is Gideon was 21 or 22 when they called it quits and still in college. There friendship continued but their relationship was 3 years.

 I disagree. Clancy wasn't subtle at all...  "Do you have a girlfriend, Clancy?" "I'm married."  I felt like an a$$ for not knowing that. What was she like, the woman married to such a hard, somber man? A man who wore a jacket year-round to hide the sidearm he was never without. Did he soften for her and show her tenderness? Was he fierce about protecting her? Would he kill for her?  "How far would you go to keep her safe?: I asked him. We slowed at a light and he turned his head to look at me. "How far wouldn't I go?"   He made a point to turn and look at Eva. He would kill.Â

 Clancy is married. I don't think his affection for Eva is anything more than protector. He knows what Nathan did to her. Also he is feeling guilty because he dropped the ball and didn't pay attention to Cary which led to Cary being almost beaten to death. When Eva asked him how far he would go to protect his family he said he would do anything. Like Angus, I think Clancy is more than an employee. He is more like family.

 All I can say is...  If someone gave me a tape of a person I loved and that tape didn't show them in the best light I would not want it shown to the world. In fact, like Gideon, I would do everything in my power to get all the copies of the tape to destroy them. Brett didn't do that. He likes the tape and he wants to use it not. My guess is the reason he wants to see Eva is because he knows her exhibitionist side and he thinks she will allow him to show the more explicit parts of the tape. Gideon knows her exhibitionist side so he takes her behind two way mirrors where she can see the crowd but the crowd can't see her. He doesn't tape her.  Sam was commissioned to record the band. We don't know if he was requested to capture them having sex but he was commissioned to record the backstage activities. The band knew what went on back stage. Brett and the whole band planned to make money when the tape was released. Sam gave Brett a heads up but Brett already had a copy of the tape.  I know a lot of people are Team Brett but I'm not one of them.Â

 I'm not sure how you can say that. The way I understand the conversation Brett had a copy of the tape and he is still working with Yimara. "Sam told me you were going to try this. That tape is none of your business. It's between me and Eva."   I think Corinne & Brett are equally evil but in different ways. They are both trying to manipulate and cause emotional pain.Â

 I disagree with you completely. You are right Cary and Eva support each other. Their relationship is like a sibling relationship. Eva can talk to Cary about things she can't talk to anyone else. Eva's family accept Cary into their family like a member of the family. That is the relationship they have. Cary has told Eva on a couple occasions that he wants her and Gideon to work out.                                                          Is Cary having a hard time right now? Yes! He sees himself making one mistake after another. He loves Trey but he is forever bound to Tat via a baby. Eva takes care of Cary and so does her mother and Stanton.  Regarding Cary's reaction to Eva telling him they eloped. Cary witnessed Gideon's nightmares. They are violent. He is afraid for Eva physically. Eva said that Cary had violent nightmares that's why she approached Gideon carefully. Cary wants Gideon to work on his problems because he doesn't want Gideon to get caught in a nightmare and punch or rape Eva. That is a valid concern.  Someone else mentioned Cary not letting Eva know that Brett's band was Six Ninths. That was a practical joke.  He didn’t know she was going backstage. He didn't know he was setting up a fight between Gideon and Brett. If they had just gone to the concert Cary would have teased Eva about the shock.  I believe that Cary is so depressed right now that he is feeling sorry for himself. Eva always telling Cary off and snapping him out of his funk. I'm sure she will do that again. As far as Cary being the only one still F'd up that is not true. Eva ran again and she knows IMO that she should sit down and talk the situation over with Gideon. He is a very wealthy man. He has enemies that he made in business and he has enemies left over from his father. Eva has to know she can't work for a company that will support his competitors.

I don't think Anne was with Cary. Eva was too upset at the end of EWY about the redhead. Cary does a lot of crazy things but he doesn't hurt Eva intentionally.Â

Hi ladies,  A couple things:  Cary - is the first person that knew Eva's story with Nathan besides her mother. He had a very abusive childhood and is self destructive. Eva tells Cary things that she can't tell anyone else and she knows he will keep her private life private. He never told anyone about Nathan and was beaten severely because Nathan thought they were living together romantically. He still hasn't betrayed her. Let's face if you are involved with a man who is high profile like Gideon you can't discuss your relationship with anyone because it might appear on Page 6 or another gossip column.  Cary is still messed up and now that he has started cutting himself again Eva is worried. Too much is happening in his life. I still question that Tat is pregnant with Cary's baby because he uses protection. Eva said he was religious about protection. if Tat is pregnant it is by another man and she trying to get money from Gideon and/or Eva. We'll see. Trey is good for Cary and I hope Cary follows Eva's advice. Eva is loyal to her friends and Cary is her friend.  Corinne - Her tell all book. Of course people will buy it. Here is a woman who had a kinky relationship with one of the wealthiest men in the world. Not only is Gideon wealthy he is young and gorgeous too. If the book is released his business dealings will be in jeopardy. I'm sure various boards will lose trust and groups like Mother's against Kinks will pressure stores and what not to drop his products.  Magdalena - She is pro Gid/Eva. She moved on. However Gideon never shared his personal past with her. She doesn't know him the way Eva does.  Brett - I'm sure he will come back. At this point I don't think he loves Eva he just wants to beat Gideon and take her away from him.  Christopher Jr.  - I think that he was also abused. If it wasn't physically, Hugh may have asked him to stand guard and threatened him if he told. That would be traumatic for a child. If he was abused by Hugh after Gideon left he would blame Gideon. There is something that we don't know yet about him and Gideon.  Liz - I don't like her and I don't know how that is going to change. Eva, however, knows that Gideon needs to have a relationship with his mother and she is going to try to bridge that gap.  Anne - is dangerous because I think she knows about Hugh. Also I think she is a woman scorned. She wants to strike back at Gideon and she knows she can do that through Eva. She was counting on Corinne being the one Gideon wanted but now that she sees it is Eva she is going to go after her some way. I still believe that Anne is going to be at the receiving end of Eva's Krav skills.  Chris & Liz - I believe that Eva is going to help them heal and get back together. I don't know how but I'm sure she will.  Victor - I still think he is going to move to NYC maybe with Graves. (I'm not sure I like that scenario)  I just ask myself why she is still talking to Eva.  Monica is not going to be with Victor. He can't give her what she needs.  I'm surprised that we didn't get anything about Monica, Christopher or more details about Gideon in this book. That disappointed me.

 Me too! Arash is great.  I'm a little disappointed with Arnoldo. I loved him in the previous books but he just won't be happy for Eva. It irritated me that he ignored her and focused on Magdalena at The Starlight. I thought he would at least be cordial.Â

  I do too but I'm not sure Corinne will listen. Corinne is wicked.Â

 Magdalena is the friend. I think this picture is directed to people who haven't read the book yet. Gideon was happy to see her join them at the club. Corinne is a major B and pot stirer.   I know the deal to write the tell all stinks but I think her worst move what threatening Gideon that she was going to attempt another suicide. I happy that he told her you can't put that on me.Â

  I see all of us "old timers" are dropping back in. Good to see everyone.

 Welcome.Â

I need to say again that I really HATE Corinne. I'm thinking about her first trip to Gideon's office. She actually used another suicide attempt to get Gideon to dump Eva. That really made my blood boil. Also she hints that she's had conversations with Elizabeth. Liz is doing everything to interfer with Gideon and Eva.  I do like that Gideon stood up to her and told her the truth that she doesn't have a chance to get back with him.Â

Another scene I really like is when Gideon goes to confront Brett and he thinks Eva is the girl with him. Gideon goes through a number of emotions (rage, grief, pain, sickness) and then realizes the laugh isn't Eva. His relief and "what the f**k" made me laugh.  Right after he has Raul manuever Eva in so she catches Brett with the other blonde.

 I agree with you about Elizabeth. I think she was going through a lot of personal issues and initally took Gideon to a doctor who lied. She needed to find someone else to get to the bottom of his claims but she didn't.  I don't get that she still denies the events when an adult is telling her what happened.  I believe Eva will be the catalyst that brings Elizabeth and Chris back together. I don't know how but I see them all having a discussion, Gideon, Eva, Liz & Chris and they begin the process of moving forward.

Kirsten:  I think Liz cancelled because after she had time to think about it the facts of what happened to Gideon are now clear to her. She couldn't blame it on Eva trying to stir up trouble anymore. The riff between Liz and Gideon is her fault and her fault alone.

I'm working on my list of What I like and What I don't get but quickly  I love the conversation with Eva and Gideon in Chapter 4 about Brett and Eva remembers:   I remembered what he said to me that he’d live with me loving another man just so long as he had me. He loved me so much more than he loved himself. That whole conversation broke my heart..  Then Victor comes out and lets Eva know he heard the conversation and tells her he realizes that "Love you" isn't enough. That really broke my heart.Â

Barb,    I'm not too upset with the ending. I felt that Gideon and Eva were going to have a showdown but I didn't want it to be so late in the book. The other books ended with GidEva solid; this one not so much and I wanted them further along. That's what I didn't like about it.

sscrph  I never liked Corinne so I expected her to cause trouble. I'm still a little disappointed with Arnoldo because I really liked him. Liz is a loon. I'm a little disappointed that Chris left her though. It will just give Gideon one more guilt trip and he doesn't need it.

  I knew Brett had to know about the tape. There was no way he was in the dark after he released "Golden". I didn't like him from the get and I'm cheering that Gideon gave him a smack down in Reflections.

I need to know what all the Team Brett people think now?Â