jo_mama

i don't think gideon would be saying "i love you" - he's got serious hang-ups on the word and he's too controled to just let that slip out. i'm more apt to think he's saying something to himself. he's a victum of sexual abuse who's never saught help - it would make sense if every act of sex (especially new ones) brought up unwanted images/feelings that he might have to coach himself through.

"trouble" by taylor swift

i don't think the biggest problem on his end is to trust her - i think his problem is possessiveness. she is not a girl that does what she's told, and that drives him crazy. at this point he would have plenty of reason not to trust her - she kisses ex boyfriends, sees his brother after he warned her not to, she runs away constantly. the trust problem is all hers.

i think that the snippet about dancing in the club - her saying she is "dancing like a single woman" is a sign that they are still keeping the appearence of a breakup in entwined. he's not getting jealous because he trusts her, now,

calling the police never makes for a good story. just because that is what people should do does not mean that's what happens.

i think she is sleeping with christopher in a desperate attempt to be close to gideon. or maybe she understand how gideon feels about christopher, and an affair with him might make gideon want to protect maggie, or realize that he wants her? desperate girls come up with the craziest stuff, so really almost any explaination could be.

i thought that he returned the ring to her on monday only because she left the ring for him on friday. he would have had to opportunity to run into her all weekend, so monday was the first chance he had. it's a simple explaination. i think he trusts eva at this point (as we hear him say in the security office the next day (i think?). the only thing she does that really stirs him is visiting lucas' office, and i don't think that is lack of trust in her as opposed to lucas. i don't think the article about brett would phase him, as he surely knew of her lunch date with him before then. trust is going to be a fun color on these 2 in the next book.

didn't eva already ask him about why he has majority interest? it was in the bath, i think, on their weekend. i could be wrong. but he didn't answer her in either case.  the premise that he just 'acquired' a majority share is hard for me to believe. why would the majority share be available? if it was vidal's company he had to make the decision to allow his holding to go below 50%. additionally, gideon is not merely holding his shares and waiting to ruin the business at his discretion - he's active in the vidal record business. he knows how's signed under their label, and their bands know well enough that he's in charge by looking at him.

angus is just a good guy. remember that he offered corinne a ride, just because he ran into her.Â

a confidentiality clause could prevent a dr lucas from being able to speak about gideon.

why is it assumed that the vidals payed people off? i really don't think there's enough money to get a doctor to ignore sexual abuse of a child. and even if there were - who would they be protecting? the only reason to cover up would be is vidal was the abuser, and then what good is it when the child himself cannot be paid off? he was 11, 12? it's not like he's too young to remember, so they just paint their kid off as crazy the rest of his life and hope he never talks to anyone? it's all a little much for me.  i don't think they paid to cover anything up - they simply did not believe him. there must be another reason the doctors didn't find any evidence of abuse - maybe because he wasn't abused in any way that would leave marks? it would be very plausible that the abuse came down to "he said/he said" and the troubled youth lost out to the reputable adult.

magdalene is a family friend, but their mothers are best friends. best friends, at the affluent level that these women would be, are going to know everything. maybe magdalene still isn't privy to as much, but there is certainly opportunity for sylvia to take it that direction.

i've said it before and i will say it again - gideon does not specifically say it was the doctoral candidate. he just says he was left alone with 'him' a lot. it would be fair to assume that it was the doctoral candidate, but also plausible that it was some other male who was around.  i accept only 3 possiblities from our current pool of charecters - vidal, the doc lucas, or this unnamed doctoral candidate. i could be convinced into any of these camps. and i also accept the 4th option, which is that it was somebody we have not met or spoke of, yet, or may never (as he might have been 'taken care of' in some respect). the only 2 people i will not accept would be christopher and angus, who were present in gideon's life then and far too unlikely as suspects.

although i am curious about raul's appearence at that time. i'm really starting to like angus

i think it is interesting that you are applying real-wrorld knowledge to a piece of fiction. as you said, we hear all the time on court dramas that coroners pinpoint time of death quite exactly - why, then, would we expect anything else from a book? sylvia's a smart gal, but i won't assume she has the same firsthand knowledge that you do.

right, they were already sleeping apart. after the second attack he insisted they sleep in seperate beds from then on, medication or no.

it's a reach. nathan may not have been out to kill cary in the first place. and if gideon's people wanted to reach him on friday they need only contact the head of their team, angus, who was driving the car. gideon did realize nathan's involvement early monday, but it could be a guess at that point, or perhaps that his security team had all weekend to look into it.

i think cary's beating is irefutible proof to the contrary. sylvia would have thrown us a clue if gideon's security team had witnessed the attack. maybe they would have intervined at some point, or gideon would have received a phone call en route to the beach, or any of 100 different things. she has given us no reason to think he was tailing nathan, ever. i can't be on board with storyline that doesn't exist.

i believe your 4th point here is inferred, but not a fact based on what gideon has said. Â i think we're all in agreement, then, that angus is something special.

i'm wondering what angus and gideon might have been through together. during the gideon/brett fight angus seemed completely comfortable abandoning gideon there, telling eva something like "he knows when to stop". i still don't understand why they had to leave - there was no danger for the rest of them.

that is exactly why i think he never had nathan followed. i don't have any reason to think gideon did have nathan followed, other than considering the story as real rather than fictional. sure, if one of the richest guys in the country was being blackmailed he could surely hire somebody to track him. but here, there's no reason to draw that conclusion. actually, as you said, many reasons to believe to the contrary.

i would love to find out that angus discovered gideon's abuse and protected him. we know that is his role, so it is no far reach to assume he played it. he is the only person from his family life that gideon brought into his current life, and there must be a reason for that.

i do not think gideon was tailing nathan. while that does seem like a good idea, now, i think his focus was protecting eva and not following nathan. if he knew where nathan was all the time he would not have been so angry when she went out to lunch or didn't wait for his car to take her to work. that week is when we are introduced to raul, which is evidence of gideon beefing up his security around eva.

it's something that bothers me in all the speculation about gideon's abuse - because there are several allies of his that were there then and still in his life in a positive way. magdalene and angus both would have had opportunity to know of the abuse, and either believe him or not. magdalene would have been a child, herself, and possible unaware.  but angus - i think he might have been a champion for gideon. maybe he's a champion for eva, now, too.

silly me for not editing my profile. geez.  i'm not sure what to think of magdalene. she's a family friend of gideon's, which puts her in a position of being the girl he "thinks of like a sister". we all know that girl. , i've been that girl. pathetically fallen for a guy who sees their relationship as friendly - sigh. that girl, unlike corinne's charecter, will settle for whatever relationship she can get with gideon, and if that means she has to be besties with his current fling (be it corrine or eva) she'll do that. poor thing is screwing his brother for crying out loud! if that's not taking what she can get i don't know what is. i don't want to think she's devious. i think she will be incredibly important, though, since she has known gideon for so long.