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 Gideon had been saving it up for weeks!!!

 Um, not yet .... honestly, I think the time I just spent figuring out the timeline of Corrine's pregnancy could have been better spent with Gideon/Eva sexy time counting. Soooooo  Chapter 1 - foreplay 2 - sex 3 - sex 4 - nope 5 - sex 6 - sex 7 - sex 8 - sex 9 - nightclub sex 10 - nope 11 - nope 12 - sex 13 - nope 14 - nope 15 - sex 16 - nope 17 - sex 18 - plane sex (oh baby) 19 - sex 20 - married sex in the office (so hot) 21 - nope 22 - sex 23 - end with a kiss that's going somewhere ....  So 14 out of 22 chapters.

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I went back over Eva/Gideon's timeline to figure out the timing for where Corrine's timing figured in .... Â From the Monday evening that Eva and Gideon met in the Crossfire lobby to the Thursday evening that Entwined wrapped up, 59 days passed - about two months, -- eight and a half weeks. Â "Four months pregnant" meaning in the fourth month could cover anything from the start of week 12 to the end of week 16. For this example, I'm going to go with the low end -- 12 weeks -- because Corrine, who was a slender woman, was not yet showing. Â If these numbers work, then: Corrine would have been around 4-5 weeks along when Gideon met Eva. Corrine learned about Eva's existence on day 6 (the night of the advocacy center dinner, when Gideon talked to Corrine after the date-gone-badly was over.) It's possible she didn't yet know she was pregnant. It was day 17 that Corrine became desperate enough to crash the fundraiser where she started chasing Gideon in person in New York. So we're talking 6-7 weeks along, in her second month. Perhaps she did know by then, and that's why she threw all caution to the wind to try to get Gideon back as quickly as possible. This was around the time, too, if she became Dr. Anne Lucas' patient, so I'm actually going to give Corrine the benefit of the doubt. Day 28 is when Gideon started "dating" Corrine again. She's definitely 8+ weeks along now. She had to have known by then she was pregnant, I believe. If she knew exactly how far along she was, she knew she needed to seduce Gideon as soon as possible to trap him into marrying her while she was still pregnant, passing off the child as his and by the time the baby was born "too early" they'd already be married, and no way would Gideon throw her out to raise a child alone. . Somewhere between day 42 and 44 is when Gideon cut Corrine off. She was now in definitely somewhere into her third month, and having failed to seduce Gideon by now, it's already too late to simply get him into bed and then trick him that he'd knocked her up the very first time. She'd start showing soon, so there's no way he would buy her being newly-pregnant. Day 57 is when Corrine took the pills.

 He did .... because I think that's the "official line" the cops were feeding his high-power lawyers.  Meanwhile, Eva was fed the line the investigation was being dropped entirely, Graves and her partner together decided to bury the whole thing.  Obviously, Graves and her partner still were working the case. So the drop-the-case was a lie. I have a feeling the not-a-suspect also was a lie, perhaps to an attempt to lull Gideon into a false sense of security.  Gideon knew better than to fall for that trap. He's still be uber careful -- look at the extreme measures he took to shake off any tail that might have been following him and Eva to the airport the weekend they went away to the Caribbean.  He's now become willing to risk openly going back to Eva, but I think only because as long as the dead gangster remains an alternate suspect, there's no way a prosecutor would dare take the case to trial. He hasn't totally relaxed his guard yet, though. Smart man.

As bad as I feel for Corrine's estranged husband, he does come across as something of a jerk, and it's clear the divorce in progress was bitter. Â It's clear he was not welcome by Corrine's parents at the hospital, who clearly favored Gideon and were close to Elizabeth Vidal. Poor Corrine's parents probably had all their hopes pinned on Corrine and Gideon as star-crossed lovers from years ago now headed toward Happily Ever After -- reunited and to be married soon. Â When the doctor came out to talk, Corrine's father tried to shut out Jean-Francois, pointing out to the doctor that he (as a parent) was the "family" here. But for legal reasons (Jean-Francois as spouse was the next of kin) and for obvious reasons (talking about a pregnancy where Jean-Francois is assumed the father) the doctor insisted upon talking privately with him, rather than talking with Corrine's father and mother. Â Very sad.

Too, I got the impression the Giroux divorce proceedings already were set in motion -- they had already filed.

 True -- the Giroux marriage itself would have to wait for the divorce to go through. But Corrine could have manipulated Gideon into immediately (upon finding out he was going to be a "father") absolutely agree to marry her, move her into his penthouse, and throw his money/influence around to speed up the divorce as quickly as possible, the goal being marrying Corrine before the baby was born, in order to make the baby "legitimate."  Gideon is traditional enough that he would want the child born in wedlock instead of outside it.

Wow, Kirsten -- excellent point! What if it was true that the utter financial ruin Elizabeth went through in the aftermath of the Ponzi scheme included her losing her engagement ring, either by the government seizing it as a valuable paid for through fraud or that Elizabeth sold the thing out of desperation ..... and then earlier this summer, when Gideon decided he would move heaven and earth to marry Eva some day, the heaven/earth moving started with him tracking down what became of the engagement ring his own father had given his mother. Â That would explain the shock of Elizabeth seeing her actual old engagement ring on Eva's hand. Bad enough to see a ring, period, on Eva's hand -- but to see that one? When Gideon will hardly talk to her (Elizabeth) at all?

Maybe Clancy and Angus worked together .... Â Angus could very well know a great deal about the "Russian Mafia" from his years of working in British foreign intelligence in an era when the Soviet Union had collapsed, and the rise of organized crime gangs in Russia became one of the consequences. Â Organized crime going on actual United States soil itself is the responsibility of the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) rather than the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency - technically they're allowed to spy outside the country but not on U.S. soil -- yeah, right, but I'm not gonna go there.) Clancy has a brother in the FBI, so his brother conceivably could know details about Russian Mafia members operating in New York City. Â However this plays out, it will be super exciting. It's worth noting that Sylvia's amazing personal story involves having spent time as Russian linguist/interrogator for U.S. Army intelligence. So she's got in real life experience with Russians and with government intelligence.

I love your username, Whiteybitey, it's so clever ..... and we love Scots here, Team Angus Rocks!

Christopher Jr. really made me angry by very deliberately trying to wreck Gideon's attempt to win Eva back. As far as Christopher (and everyone else, even Ireland) knew, Times Square was the first time in weeks Gideon dared even approach Eva. So what does Christopher do very deliberately in front of Eva: Â Made it clear that Corrine talks to him (Christopher) frequently -- meaning Corrine has some sort of closeness to the Vidal family Gideon is being a jerk to Corrine now by refusing to talk to her -- just like Gideon had cut off Eva for weeks (and likely will be a jerk to Eva yet again, if Eva gave Gideon any opportunity to do so) Accused Gideon of (unfortunately, this part is true) of sending Corrine mixed signals -- and doing so in a way that would point out to Eva the fact that Gideon (unfortunately had done so recently) sent Eva herself mixed signals. " .... gone over to her place last night." Last NIGHT. Hint, hint, Eva -- Gideon's f**** Corrine last night. He probably wants to f*** you tonight, but don't let him. Â Good Lord, how much you want to bet Christopher knew all about Eva's insecurity and jealousy problem, compliments of Mrs. Giroux (who of course would have spun it as Eva being some nutjob while Corrine herself was a sweet little victim of Eva's crazy). Now Christopher is doing Corrine's dirty work for his own selfish ends --- trying to make Eva jealous and insecure and making her believe Gideon still is some cold-hearted jerk. Gideon was doing to Corrine now the exact manipulative thing he'd done to Eva -- and soon as Eva would let him back in, he'd turn on her again and run back to Corrine. Lather-rinse-repeat Gideon using women.

 Why indeed? Why haven't the police told Cary they identified his attacker?  Maybe that would be because the fact is part of an even bigger ongoing investigation, the murder of Nathan Barker. If Nathan's death truly was "solved" then there would be no problem in telling Cary his beating happened to be part of the whole mess. The murder investigation is still going on (latest twist involves a now-dead-gangster) so the cops are continuing to keep their cards close to the vest. I'm no longer sure whether Detective Graves is friend or foe to Gideon -- but it's plain that she lied to Eva about the case being dropped.  It's clear why Eva hasn't told Cary. He'd figure out that Gideon killed Nathan, and that knowledge would put Cary in a dangerous legal bind -- the risk he too could get dragged into the murder case, if the cops were to charge Gideon. At the very least, a prosecutor might try to force Cary to become a prosecution witness. Worst case scenario -- the cops might wrongly accuse Cary along with Eva of having known beforehand Gideon planned to kill Nathan, She and Gideon won't ever expose Cary to the risk of being suspected of being an accessory.

 I too believe that Corrine knew she was pregnant. Gideon wants to believe she didn't know .... and I hope that reasonable doubt continues to protect him for guilt he does not deserve.  But I fear that manipulative nutjob knew she was pregnant, and that's what prompted her finally after all those years to try to chase Gideon down. She planned to seduce him right away .... and then let him believe the baby she was carrying was his, something that would guarantee he would marry her quickly. One of the reasons she got increasingly frantic was the clock was running out .... the longer she failed to get Gideon to f*** her, the harder it would be to pass off the child as his.  Besides, by the fourth month, her options for backing out of the pregnancy got a whole lot more complicated.  NOTE: Abortion is a very sensitive issue on a number of levels -- religious, social, legal -- so I'm not taking any stances with the following explanation, but rather, simply discussing how the system works in the United States, where a landmark ruling by our Supreme Court made abortion legal and in a country where our medical system is run by the private sector, not the government itself. With that said ... the practice is legally protected but it is up to hospitals/clinics to decide for themselves whether they want to provide abortion services ....  It is relatively easy to find a hospital or clinic willing to terminate a pregnancy during the first 12 weeks - the first trimester. It gets a whole lot more complicated 13 weeks onward .... the second trimester ....  because things are now entering a gray area of "late term abortion." There's no exact line what constitutes "late" -- 16 weeks, 20 weeks -- so it is up to each care provider to decide what is late. But it is very difficult to find providers willing to perform late term abortions, especially in cases where a woman simply wants to end a pregnancy. Cases of a mother's life being in danger -- yes -- but for other reasons, um .... no.  With each passing week, Corrine's options would have gotten even more narrow. And by the 20th week, it might have been all but impossible for her to find a clinic or hospital to perform one for any other reason but the fact her life was in danger.

 Only the snapshot pictures, which do have the chapter numbers, directly relate to the chapters. Sylvia was directly involved with creating those, and they were posted to her own professional website that she owns -- www.sylviaday.com  Just like the snippets, Sylvia herself whetted our appetites with the snapshots.  The countdown pictures were created by a division of Penguin, the publisher that owns the rights to Entwined. They seem to relate more to plot twists, and they weren't in exact order, it would seem.  They were fun. But I find the snapshots to be much more important, because they came from Sylvia herself.  Hope this helps!

 I'm still surprised Elizabeth even had the ring .... that the Feds didn't seize it along with every other auctionable valuable she and her now-dead-husband owned. As Gideon noted, she'd already faced financial ruin once. Based on what happened with the real-life Ponzi schemer Bernie Madoff, the government seized practically everything of value both Madoff and his wife owned, auctioning the stuff off to go toward the victim fund.  Perhaps some sort of special exception applies to engagement/wedding rings. Even by hard-nosed government standards, ripping the engagement and wedding rings off the hand of a crook's wife (widow in Elizabeth's case) is cold. Or perhaps the ring was some sort of family heirloom from Elizabeth's side of the family. It's uncommon but not unheard of for a woman to wear an engagement ring that's an heirloom from her own family instead of wearing a brand new one bought by the fiance.  In any case, it would appear that ring was perhaps one of the sole valuables left from the Cross marriage. I envision Elizabeth setting it aside after she married Vidal, telling Gideon it would be his some day to pass on to his wife. Gideon became estranged from his family in his early teens, so it kinda made sense that when he got engaged to Corrine, he bought Corrine a ring himself instead of accepting Elizabeth's to use .....  ..... and so what incredibly powerful message it did send that Gideon chose perhaps the only heirloom left from his parents life together to give to a woman he clearly means to spend the rest of his life with.

 I heard that too -- she would pop in. I'd be so psyched!!!!

 In crisis mode over the sex tape -- which could have hurt Eva just like those homemade child p o r n pictures and video of Eva that sicko Nathan created -- Gideon regressed from New Gideon to Old Gideon. Keep Eva in the dark, handle the whole crisis secretly .... and once again assume that Eva would blindly trust him.  Fortunately for him, she had decided to trust him. But not blindly -- as soon as he got back, she started demanding answers from him. And good for her NOT chasing him by phone or text while he was in the midst of his disappearing act. That must have really worried him, as well it should have. She put him in a position where he had to "do the right thing" by being the first one to re-establish contact.

It never crossed my mind either that Gideon was the father of Corrine's baby. But I got very scared that Eva would assume it to be true and pull a runner. Look at what happened after she'd seen the party photo .... then to hear with her own ears confirmation that Corrine most definitely had been sexually active with someone recently? She wasn't "showing" so she obviously was in early pregnancy. Â Gideon had sworn to Eva that the kitchen fire at the party hotel -- NOT Corrine -- was his alibi for many, many hours the night Nathan was killed. What if Eva suddenly doubted that and concluded that Gideon's real alibi involved taking Corrine upstairs to his fully-stocked f*** pad, that one thing led to another, and that what went on extended beyond the toys .... that his, um, you know what got involved? Â My first thought of baby papa was Christopher Jr.

 Good Lord, AMC -- you've got nearly 500 posts in this thread alone!!! The community here was going WILD yesterday, it was amazing!! New members jumping in, and at one point well over a 100 lurkers reading. Mrs. Crossfire spotted Sylvia's name as actively on the site at one point (Sylvia didn't post, but she obviously was reading.)

 I think the dramatic set of events over the weekend played a huge role in Gideon deciding that continuing to date Corrine was playing with fire:  Eva went after his mother as some sort of avenging angel Eva danced with Creepy Christopher Jr. Eva got a sexy make-over so dramatic she'd practically transformed her appearance  AND .... Brett Kline gave an interview proclaiming he'd reconnected with Eva and wanted to work things out  Ruh roh.  Eva had crawled out of her cave. Was she now on the prowl, on the manhunt? Twice, her being upset about Corrine had driven her straight to Brett. Maybe Gideon feared (correctly) his being seen with Corrine anymore was a high-risk situation of it's own.

Angus is former MI6, the British foreign intelligence agency, the U.K.'s counterpart to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). And if Angus is 40-something (a guess based on the fact his red hair is now graying) he'd have been a 20-something spy agency guy in the early to mid 1990s, the decade following the collapse of the Soviet Union, when the Cold War had ended and everything in Europe and the United States was changing. Â Keep that in mind, chapter-per-day ladies .... it might be important later But we'll get to later chapters, well, later.

And I wanted to laugh when Eva finally "played dirty" against Corrine .... knowing that she (Eva) and Gideon were about to have the inevitable discussion about his publicly dating Corrine, Eva made sure he'd have to see "the girls" (her rack) while he discussed another woman. Â I was pleased that he instantly agreed "no more Corrine" -- had in fact already cut Corrine off. I wonder when he did it. The last time he was seen with Corrine was Monday evening, leaving the Crossfire with her shortly after business hours. Did he do it that night? On Tuesday, after he and Eva took their all-important car ride? Or did he do it Thursday morning, while Eva was still asleep following an entire night of make-up lovemaking?

I wanted to cry when I learned Gideon had taken the apartment next door to Eva, cry at the thought of lonely nights he probably spent there after broken-hearted Eva dumped him. She was so close literally -- on the other side of a wall -- but a million miles away. He couldn't see her, talk to her .... and he knew she probably was crying herself to sleep every night. Certainly, from having her followed, he knew her nights consisted purely of Krav Maga and hiding in her apartment. I'll bet through watching her on the security cameras coming and going from the Crossfire, he could tell she wasn't eating (she clearly was losing weight) and she was having trouble sleeping too (even other people were worried about her appearance.) Â I wonder whether he slept there that last Monday night in Reflected. He'd finally dared approach her in the elevator that day, and the reaction he got was her feeling so beat down she invited him to simply sexually use her then and there. Then things got even worse that evening, because he got caught red-handed with Corrine coming out of the Crossfire. I'm sure he staged the whole thing for the security cameras to counter security footage of him approaching Eva. He definitely timed it for after Eva leaving for the day. But unfortunately for him, she hadn't left the vicinity -- so he got caught, and Eva's reaction was anger. Even scarier than despair. Especially because she immediately telephoned someone then and there on the sidewalk, in full view of him. Brett? (We know she called Monica, but Gideon had no way of knowing.) Â So I can see him in there Monday night maybe crying himself to sleep. Eva's self esteem was so bad she'd allow herself to be used -- and now she was mad as h e l l and ripe to maybe demean herself with someone else -- a guy she used to demean herself with years ago. His whole plan had gone horribly wrong yet again.

Dr. Anne Lucas .... yep, I think most definitely she was the one prescribing anti-depressants to Corrine in a manner that steadily worsened Corrine's condition. I think Eva's gut is right about that; she instantly felt a sense of unease upon learning that Anne is a psychiatrist (a medical doctor who specializes in treating mental illness, and like any medical doctor in the United States, has the full authority to prescribe drugs -- when a mental health problem necessitates medication, technically any medical doctor can write prescriptions, but in practice, usually a patient is sent to a psychiatrist, a specialist extremely well-versed in psychiatric meds.) Â I wonder too whether Eva's unease goes deeper than that -- she knows from Gideon that when the Vidals put him into treatment at around age 10-11 for his anger management problems, the main therapist was a woman and the guy who turned out to be the pedophile, Hugh, was studying for a doctoral degree. Â We know from a Google search that Eva had done in Reflected, Terry Lucas is 45 years old and had been married to Anne for 20 years. Assuming she is in the same age bracket -- mid to late 40s -- she could have already finished medical school too by the time the Vidals put Gideon into therapy. Â Whether or not Anne was the woman who was supposed to have been Gideon's first therapist (but instead became Elizabeth's, leaving Gideon to the mercy of Hugh), I can easily see how Anne could have become Corrine's doctor. Possible timeline: Â Spring? Corrine was still in France, but her marriage was deteriorating and she'd gone into full-blown obsession of Gideon, calling the guy daily and guilt-tripping him into become a "friend" she could lean on. Early June: Corrine decided to leave her husband and leave France. She booked a flight to New York, then called Gideon in crisis, telling him she was coming and begging for his help in settling in. She happened to catch him at a time when he was busy at a social event (the fundraiser that had been his first date with Eva) but he agreed to call her back later. When he did, he told her he'd met someone -- Eva. Next few days upon learning about Eva: Corrine cancelled her flight, chickening out seeing Gideon with another woman he actually was serious about. Then she would have seen photos online: Eva on the red carpet with Gideon, Gideon passionately kissing Eva. And Eva did not look like Corrine -- she wasn't a brunette like every other woman Gideon was photographed dating. Another serious sign that Eva actually was different. Week that followed: Gideon was suddenly hard to reach by telephone (he was too busy with Eva) but when Corrine did manage to talk to him, he discussed how special Eva was and how she was getting him to open up. Crashing the fundraiser: Corrine decided to go for broke, moving back to New York without telling Gideon, and calculatedly catching him off-guard with Eva. What followed were some very serious mixed messages: Gideon had never told Eva about Corrine, Gideon paid total attention to Corrine during dinner, Corrine scored direct hits seriously messing with Eva's mind -- and Dr. Terry Lucas was at the table. It goes badly for Corrine: Gideon literally ran out the door after Eva. I'm guessing that the next day -- after the nooner stunt -- Gideon called Corrine to say he needed distance from Corrine, for the sake of Eva. I'm not sure whether he cut off all contact with Corrine then; he might have been taking her calls sometimes (but not daily). However, it is safe to say Corrine didn't get to see him face to face. But no more new press photos appeared of him with Eva - had making Eva insecure worked? My guess: around this time, Corrine, fearing she came back too late, and now stuck in limbo and with her marriage totally on the rocks, sought help for depression. Corrine obviously reconnected with the Vidals, who moved in the same social circles as the Lucases. Perhaps while crying on Elizabeth's shoulder, Corrine got the name of a doctor to see - Anne Lucas. Gideon dumped Eva and started dating Corrine again: even he later admitted he deliberately gave Corrine mixed messages they could be more than friends. He had to, to maintain the high-stakes cover to protect Eva herself from the cops, not just him (if he got charged, Eva could be falsely charged with being involved in the killing too.) Now Corrine is at the height of happiness temporarily. Anne reacts: now it appears Corrine is the one who will become Gideon's wife. Anne buys the lie that everyone else had, even Eva herself. So Corrine is the one to destroy. Anne increases the doses of the anti-depressants (hey, look how well they're working!) She guesses that things will continue to be rocky with Gideon, and so Corrine is about to go through roller-coaster h e l l. Corrine in limbo: despite the mixed messages by his actions (letting the world believe he and Corrine reunited) behind closed doors he's telling her "just friends." Then Eva shows up on her doorstep, further unsettling her -- Eva isn't out of the picture after all, and Eva is asserting Gideon loves her (Eva). Panic time: sometime around this same time (Eva showing up again) Gideon tells Corrine firmly they'll never be anything more than friends. I wonder whether he did it Monday night following his huge mistake of getting caught red-handed with Corrine by Eva. Or perhaps it was Tuesday night, hours after Eva promised she would wait for him. In any case, by Wednesday night, when Gideon and Eva reunited, Gideon had already had The Talk. And all of a sudden, he's not taking Corrine's calls anymore. If she was stalking his apartment building (she lived around the corner) she'd figure out he wasn't coming home at night either. Depths of despair: figuring correctly he was seeing Eva again, Corrine started stalking him, including calling his mother and calling Christopher. And turning to her doctor -- she's coming apart now. Through a combination of further manipulating drugs and messing with her mind, Anne pushes Corrine to the brink of collapse. Things get worse: when Gideon finally does go to see her in her own apartment, the only result is his determining she literally is crazy now. Instead of supporting her, knowing it would send the worse possible mixed message, Gideon steps back and summons her estranged husband to intervene. Corrine gets proof about Eva: Deanna, still on her crusade of tapping into the Dumped by Gideon Sisterhood, contacts Corrine, and shows fresh proof of Gideon's supposedly being a jerk -- pictures in Times Square of him "chasing" Eva to stop Eva from getting back together again with Brett Kline. THEN Corrine's husband gives her the devastating news: Gideon and Eva are engaged, something he himself knows for certain because Eva herself confirmed it. The suicide attempt - last ditch effort to manipulate Gideon to come back to her? Or actually having lost the will to live? Or genuine madness, thanks to the evil machinations of Anne Lucas? What happens next? One scenario I can see -- Perhaps Elizabeth, clearly on Team Corrine, will lay a massive guilt trip on Gideon as part of her (Elizabeth's) own efforts to get Gideon to choose Corrine over Eva. Elizabeth will in detail spell out just how long Corrine had been suffering - weeks, not just days. She'll reveal that poor Corrine even sought psychiatric help weeks ago -- from Anne Lucas.