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Ireland knows. She was there when the cops came to talk about Nathan.she could have innocently let it slip to Chris jnr.

o0o0o I never even thought about that.. good catch.. true true true.. but we have all said that Christopher was going to stir the pot with Eva and Gideon

Yes I absolutely agree... I think JFG hovers near the top of the list of who will be introduced to Eva's Krav Maga skills.... He has always been overly familiar with Eva and he knows that Eva is Gideon's "weakness" for lack of a better term.

OMG when I read that I was thinking the same thing. thinking he'd try to seduce her because he knew it would kill Gedeon

Ha!! Many on this forum have read and listened four times as much or so ; as Gideon would say "Sylvia OWNS us!!"

ive read them way more times then needed. Im at the point ive killed the spine and need new books

so, this crazy notion just popped into my mind.because of just reading your cheating posts. How is it that a little sister from another husband can look so much like Gideon when the brother has reddish hair?  do you think maybe lizzy said Gideon was Geoffrys but not. and maybe Gideon is angry because she made him feel like s*** all these years?

why would you think that? what could he want from her?

I never said she did I answered the question how long do people go to jail for Ponzi schemes. 

no no no it was mentioned that he was young enough that he could make a come back.

Are there any reactions to Chris as a father?

 

Gideon says he refuses to take sides when Gideon and Christopher disagree in the business.

I do not think Gideon has a strong, competent father figure in his life.

 

I know Victor has his flaws but can he serve in that capacity?  Victor did step up for Eva in her later life.  Cary likes him too.

but this is where angus has stepped in.Eva evan said I wonder just how much of a sergeant father he is to him

I did a quick search and most US Ponzi schemers get up to 20 years but they all were paroled much sooner.  He was a young man so he could make a comeback.  Also they are confined in low security prisons so, while prison is terrible they aren't with harden criminals.

I don't think they would screw with a little boys head and say his father shot himself in the head only to have gone to prison. I really don't think Sylvia would go that way

There is approximately 10 years of Monica's life to account for.  We know her family disowned her when she was pregnant and we know she was with Barker when Eva was ten.  I do not recall how long Monica and Barker had been married before the abuse started.

 

Since Eva does not talk about ever having a financially difficult time in her life, Monica either married Barker when Eva was young or hide her escort career extremely well.  Barker wanted a mother for his son so I do not think he would have married her if he knew.

she did tell Gideon it started when she was 10. she also said that Monaca snagged millionaire with a kid in tow. so im thinking young like 3-4 she also stated he hated that the new mommy already had a kid

Back on track

 

Gideon also seems to have abandonment issues because of his father's suicide.  Most of the attention has been paid to his nightmare but what about his feeling of being left by his dad.  We know he wants to be a father (in the prenup).

this is why I feel something is going to be brought up with hughs son and open a new can of worms

gaia,

ive said I thought it was Christopher in other spots and everyone blew me crap. One of the things I love about different chats is everyone has all kids of ideas .

 

Its known that Eva has great gut feelings on everything.. she questioned Lacey in the bathroom about him and felt off. Eva and feeling off means something is going to happen.. therefor something has happened to Gumi

Has anybody noticed all the significant women in Gideon's life before Eva resemble his mother?

Ive said all along it was mommy issues. He had said she didn't love him enough. so Im thinking he was seeking women that looked like her that didn't love him enough so he crapped on them as she did to him

Im going with Micheal , and Id hate to say he raped her but im thinking Eva needs a good friend to be able to talk to and I think this would bring that to a place they would get close.

My next question is Why did Eva say YES..?

" I was still dizzy when he groaned and said , "Marry Me." But that wasn't why I said, "Yes."?

EWY page 286 Eva did say why....  " Id been so certain I would never find a man who loved me for who I was, with all my emotional scars and baggage and neediness. What else could I say besides YES, now that by some miracle I'd found him

really. 17 would be right there. Gideon is 28.. he was about 10 when all the shrink crap started

_{so because I was on here reading everyone's thoughts my head was spinning when I hit the sheets.}

_{BOOM what pops into my mind. WHAT IF.. a big dark evil past that drags Gideon into .o is HUGHs son. what if Hugh's son is the kid that is seeing his sister? He would be the right age. He was brought up in a conversation between Gideon and Eva..that usually means its comes up again. what if its a trigger when she shows up with him at some point.}

Im with you about Monaca being so wrapped up in herself she didn't notice what was going on with Eva .

And I think she still wouldn't of had a clue if she did have to rush Eva to the hospital .

many times with her boo-hooing she has said. " I did the best I could " I think she was a crappy mother and has been trying to make it up to her since. Buying her gowns and loven up Cary..she does it to win evas love

Has anyone considered that sex abuse survivors often turn into abusers themselves? I think that Hugh abused Christopher as well as Gideon. But did Gideon abuse Christopher also and not remember it? Is that why Christopher hates Gideon so? Or is it just because Gideon's acting out brought Hugh into their lives and introduced the abuse? What do you think?

I have said this all along. Im thinking Christopher was asked if anything happened period. and he didn't want to tell. so I always wondered if he even knew Gideon was being abused.This in my mind is why Christopher hates him so much

Betty: I feel that a can worms will open up and we will find out Christopher is so angry because he was abused as well.and Im thinking he doesn't know that Gideon was, and that's why he hates him so much.

Im willing to bet something more sinister happened to Megumi. Im going with she got beat up. That's why she sounds really bad,and doesn't want anyone to see her. This opens up a great opportunity for eva to bring in some krav maga whop @ss and have megumi go to class with her.

Hi GiGi,

Thanks for replying to my post - you really are very thorough!! The problem is, I think she invited Brett up without having seen Deanna: "I invited Brett up, because I couldn't see any way to avoid it that wasn't rude." Like, hello? How about "Thanks for dinner, don't call me, I'll call you", or "See you in my next life?"  But inviting him up was ASKING for trouble. She would have FREAKED if Gideon had asked Corinne up to his empty apartment. She had already made it clear to Brett that she loved Gideon - what on earth was he meant to think when she invites him up. No wonder the guy doesn't give up.

she said to herself when she was going down the hall to the apt passed Gideon's door. page 247..

 

hating that I had to walk by Gideon's to get there, Had he felt like this when he he'd spent time with Corinne? Weighted with guilt and worry?

I feel like you guys aren't giving her enough credit

So it's true!!!! Wow caught working out.... Just like Gideon and Eva in BTY.

he seems to have a happy bump in his draws

But we can't know for sure what happened when Eva wasn't there. She assumed he would ###### other girls when she wasn't around but that could be her insecurity talking - she wasn't there, she doesn't know what he was doing. He considered them to be an item - he said they were together for 6 months and that that was the longest relationship he'd ever had... I'm not saying he didn't ###### other girls, all I'm saying is, we assume that because Eva assumed it.

That's also a massive part of Eva's confusion at this point in the book. She always assumed she was nothing more than a convenient ###### for Brett, but she's now starting to realise that she might have been wrong - based on the song he wrote about how he felt, and his actions recently...

even still the music video was nasty to her.. she was very put off about him spilling the some what personal times they had for all the world to see.

Hi Sharon

Humour me here please. In education in the USA, if someone said they went to school, what age group would you be thinking about?

I would think 18 to 25

Hi Sharon.

I don't think she saw her dad much in her younger years, she says it was mainly phone calls, but re reading she referred as going to school in SoCal. So I thought perhaps she spent some of her younger years there, although away from Victor. That was why I was asking about the ages. But school in the USA goes on into your twenties at least. So she was referring to SDSU. Trying to read to much into a sentence that was written.

Makes you jump when the fire alarm goes off.

Thanks for explaining though.

 

it was said that she didn't see him at all . she was out of control and she went out to live him and then go to school. It was also stated that the only part of her father she got was his mothers name. That's why she calls every Saturday.. she doesn't want to lose what she has with him now.