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I was walking by a jewelry shop the other day staring at the engagement rings in the window, when it struck me how sweet the whole engagement ring thing was in the book.  Gideon gave Eva his mom's ring which I would imagine he'd had for some time as part of his inheritance. Or, regardless of when took possession of it, he probably would have had access to it since he was 18, if not sooner.  Yet, when talking about Corrine, he said that he went into one jewelry store and picked out a random engagement ring that looks like her mom's. Gideon didn't give Corinne his mom's ring. Even at that age, still messed up inside his head, and however grateful he was for her love, he knew she didn't deserve his family heirloom. so sweet...  Not sure if anyone brought that up before in this forum, but ring connection just hit me, and it was yet more proof of how special Eva is to him. it made me smile.

I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, but I've had a whole Gideon playlist on my phone since the first book. I've got about 40 songs on it, but here are some highlights.  The VLA - "When I am Through with You" It works in a literal sense for all the women Gideon left in his wake, but it also applies to Eva, too, in a softer way.  When I am through with you, There won't be anything left. When I am through with you. Oh come back now where did you go? No need to cower, don't know If i can even turn your light on Hello, Daisy, is that you Hiding in the grass? I've come to pluck you, I'm gonna pluck you right in half.  When I am through with you, There won't be anything left.   Another, more obvious choice, Sarah Mclachlin - "Angel" Not sure if anyone suggested that one yet, but it's so perfect for Gideon.  in the arms of the angel fly away from here from this dark cold hotel room and the endlessness that you fear you are pulled from the wreckage of your silent reverie you're in the arms of the angel may you find some comfort here   Joseph Arthur - "Honey and the Moon" So perfect for when Gideon first meets Eva with that whole "I want to **** you" line  Don't know why I'm still afraid If you weren't real I would make you up now I wish that I could follow through I know that your love is true and deep as the sea but right now everything you want is wrong, and right now all your dreams are waking up, and right now I wish I could follow you to the shores of freedom, where no one lives.   I could go on with the rest of my playlist, but I'll spare everyone before this post gets too long!

I agree. Nearly every time she talks to him or sees him, she's still talking about how hot he is....how great his body is....how seductive his voice is. If she had truly let go by now, she wouldn't be nearly as phased by his looks or voice. She's still reconciling her feelings for him. And, finding out your ex that treated you like crap not only wants you back, but has been using you as his muse? Well if that's not an ego boost, I don't know what is. I think she's using his interest in the same way she used to use the s*x...as a cheap way to make herself feel better. I don't think for a minute she'll cheat on gideon, but she needs Dr. Travis ASAP!

Benjamin Bratt is the perfect Victor! Tall, handsome and built. Yum!

Was anyone under the impression he had? I thought it was pretty well established by Graves they had nothing solid. Did I miss something in one if the books?

Most lawyers don't try to prove innocence...even with an innocent client. They argue not guilty. The difference being they don't have to volunteer any information about why the client is innocent which could be in conflict with what they know, just reasons why the prosecution isn't correct with their charges. It's true a lawyer can't present anything that would perjure themself, but all they need to do is poke holes to create reasonable doubt. Even before the mafia tangle, Gideon's case would have been nothing but a bunch of circumstantial evidence and it would be easy to argue "you can't prove it" to everything the prosecution had, even if Gideon had confessed to him. I'm sure cases with solid evidence are harder for the lawyer, if they have a confession, but luckily gideon was too smart to leave any traces behind. :)

Do we ever get any sense if how long Gideon's abuse went on? We know Eva's was about four years, but what about Gideon? How long before he told his mom? How long did it continue after? I'm hoping, believing him or not, the uproar at least got the pedophile out if the house, but I could also see Lizard keeping the therapy sessions going until it was "proven" and then, when it wasn't according to Dr. Lucas, continuing them still.

OMG! I never thought about that before, but you're so dead on. I think it even speaks to how he treated women. Not wanting any emotional attachment, using them and discarding them without a second thought... The same way Gideon was used, in part because of his mother. I wonder if she went after his friends in high school. Marrying Vidal sounds like it was mostly for security and stability, so she may have been bored and gotten a little to friendly when he brought friends home....thus perpetuating the "using and discarding" pattern.

Is anyone else getting a little worried about how Eva and Gideon are getting a little lax about falling asleep next to each other? He still has issues. We saw that when he grabbed her wrist when Eva came running into him during his last nightmare. I think this issue is going to bubble up at least one more time, especually if the next two books are about Gideon working through his problems. I hope things don't get too far out of control, but I definitely think we haven't seen the last of the issue.

I'm not a lawyer but I do know that anything at all you tell a lawyer under retainer is attorney-client privilege and is completely protected...at least in the US. Defense laweys would have a hard time doing their job if their clients couldn't be fully candid with them. (Not that all clients are...) I don't think Gideon would have told the lawyer, though. Even if the lawyer suspected, though, it's his job to keep him out of jail and he couldn't repeat a single word Gideon said to anyone...even if Gideon confessed to a multitude of crimes. I don't think that Gideon would have told angus either, but angus is a smart guy and probably knows. I have a different take of detective graves. I think she knows it was Gideon (or at least did until the whole mafia hit) but she had no proof whatsoever and now has reasonable doubt. I don't think she's on anyone's side at all... Not even Nathan's. she knew what nathan did ans it was through her we found out his own dad didn't care about him anymore. I think she's unbiased and just wants the truth....I could be way off though. only Sylvia knows right now...what I wouldn't give to be her editor or work at her publishing company!!

 I interpreted the Tableau One choice differently. I think Eva went out with Brett because of the pain that she was still working through of Gideon spending time with Corrine, but I don't think her choice in restaurant was malicious. At that point, they both seemed to be trying to meet each other half way and choosing a place where Gideon (or Arnoldo) could watch over her, was part of that, despite her judgement to meet Brett.  One thing does amaze me about Eva's and Gideon's reunion.... If I was Eva (Ha! I wish!) Anyway, if I was her, in addition to the pain of the separation that Gideon caused, I would be devastated by how the press wil inevitably have a field day being spotted together again.  Gideon and Eva get together. Gideon dumps her for an old flame. Eva welcomes him back with open arms. Eva's publicly portrayed as a doormat...just another girl willing to put up with anything Gideon dishes out just to keep him.  She and Gideon know there's more to the story, as do we, BUT, if I would still be sickened by what the public thought of me. It's rough enough sometimes when you hear a friend thinks badly of you. I can't imagine being dragged through the press like that. I'm sure perception will change some once the public wedding actually happens...until then, with his history, I'm sure everyone thinks Eva is just Gideon's doormat of choice for the moment.  Eva clearly is dealing with some hurt, but I think she's handling it really darn well. Probably better than I would be. No matter how well intentioned he was and how thankful I would be to him, I would still be devastated that he was capable of hurting me that much...especially all for the public watch it play out.  Was anyone else surprised how well she handled things? Outside of a few hiccups, she really seemed to go from devastated to happy in lightening speed.

 If you're looking for a reading with a male voice, below is a link to a youtube channel where a guy and girl read a lot of romances together. EWY isn't there yet, but RIY is. The readings aren't as professional quality as the official, of course, but they're decent and the guy's got a pretty good male voice...much better than Eva's rendition in the official audio book!  http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4iJCQdkKuUi6NMQ1xSWUIQ

 That would be interesting. Perhaps if will force Gideon to deal with his mother once and for all like Eva thought he needed too.  Frankly, I thought Lizzie was flat out delusional with the whole "you won't take my son away from me" bit. Gideon probably hasn't broached the abuse issue in ages, so she thinks it's all in the past, but has she never noticed that he won't come to the house, that he won't hug her back, that he's a block of ice when he talks to her? She's clearly not dealing with reality if she still thinks her son has any affection for her whatsoever....and even more so, if she can't figure out why...

  Ack. All this time I've been pronouncing her name wrong in my head! I always thought it was EE-VA (long E). But in this recording it's AY-VA (long A).  I can't be alone in this, can I?  thanks for the link. I'm definitely downloading....my mind is going to be jostled every time I hear her name, though. lol

 I think he'll go with her. He'll oversee the whole Brett situation. He'll spend time dealing with the video issue. And He'll prove once and for all that he can leave Corrine in the dust...especially since JFG will probably explode if he sees him again. Plus, deep down Gideon has to know that Corrine knew she was pregnant. And he must also realize that she schemed to cut him the deepest way possible with her suicide attempt. With those two things, hopefully he'll finally see her true colors. Â

 OMG! I never even thought about that. Perhaps it is his master plan for Eva's career. She said he seemed to know his way around the construction site. If it was just some random tenant that leased the space, he probably wouldn't know much about how the space was being configured...he's got plenty of people to oversee those details...unless the space meant something personally to him.  Perhaps they christened her new office!

  Not per se. Being called to the bosses office is par for any job. BUT, I think it was odd that out of all the interactions Eva and Mark ever had, this is the first time a boss is ever even mentioned. In the books, Mark and Eva's relationship was working together, the presentation with Gideon in BTY, and occasional lunches. In the mornings, their interaction was ALWAYS a brief chat then "let's get to work." In the grand scheme of all the books, it was just out of character...and there was never any explanation about winning (or losing) an account like they speculated.

 Delicious! thank you for this!

two questions.... sorry if they've been covered earlier, this thread is too out of control to keep up...and I love it.  1. did anyone else think it was weird the way Mark was asked to stop by the head of the agency's office? It was right after Gideon was trying to get Eva to work for him, so thought he'd found a way to get her amicably laid off or something. At the charity event they mentioned not wanting to lose her, so obviously that wasn't the case, but it seemed like an odd detail to throw in. Maybe that was just a way of introducing the chairman's character?  2. Anyone else's radar up about Megumi being sick? She's a peripheral character so I don't see her connected to any of the drama. But it seemed strange the way it was turned into a such a big deal for Eva. She's a friend to lean on, but Eva wouldn't have been able to tell her anything anyway.  I took a fiction writing class in college....and by saying that, I am not at all implying I'm an expert...I'm far, far from it!  Anyway, my point being, one of the things the professor said always stuck with me: Every word should have a purpose. So, for the two details above, seemingly inconsequential, but left up in the air, I'm left wondering 'what's the purpose?' Maybe there isn't one...but they've still been bugging me.

 lol. No, but Gideon hasn't given up trying with Eva.  And he's eluded several times to the fact that he's 'working his way in' to bind her from the inside out.  I have to admit, I wish EIY had explored a little more exactly how far he would go sexually. He's certainly no Christian Grey by any means, but we've yet to see him fully unleashed. Understandably, so he doesn't scare Eva, but nevertheless, when he tells Eva his weekend plans are "diabolical," I was thrilled about the wedding, but part of me was hoping it was a sexual reference to learn more about that side of him. Perhaps Eva derailed him on the plane....but then, I can't see him going too far out there on their wedding weekend anyway.Â

 I kind of liked not hearing their vows, too. I have to admit, though, if they went the traditional route, I desperately want to know if the "to obey" was left in. I highly doubt it was. Eva would never go for it!  Considering how comprehensive the prenup was, there's a part of me that's surprised Gideon didn't put it in there! haha

 yeah, especially even after he came home and went next door, rather than her guest room. Maybe that's one of the issue he'll work through in the next book...at least, we can hope.

  I don't think he watched the whole thing. Even just knowing it's out there I'm sure sickened him, but watching a minute or two of the PG rated part to authenticate it pushed him to a place he didn't want to go. I think this may have been part of the reason why, despite having his pills at Eva's, he went next door to their apartment, rather than back to Eva or her guest room to be closer.

  hahaha! good point! They've both got work to do.  Gideon more than her though, I think. He disappeared to California without telling her...after they were married! He said he was busy the whole time...and I'm sure he was...but, REALLY? Not even time for a 2 minute call or text message???  I wonder if he was unintentionally (and completely unconsciously) punishing her for the extra drama.

  I agree she's processing and want's to keep the personal moment to herself until she's come to terms with it. After all, it was incredibly spur of the moment. They talked about marriage, but I'm sure she never expected to be proposed to and married within 24 hours.  I also think she's trying to deal with the whole "mogul's wife" thing that comes with this new territory. She mentioned it several times...once even before they were married, walking through the resort, and then several times after the marriage. She literally mentioned 'mogul's wife' at one point, but even just the way she and gideon abstained in the limo, despite them both looking forward to it, so she wouldn't look 'less than perfect' for the event.