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Clancy's brother that is in the FBI...

I'm trying to catch up with posts. Makes sense now.

Hey GiGi!

Yes I've heard about it but I haven't read the published paper yet! To be honest I'm in my lab for experience, marijuana research is not something I'm very interested in as far as persuing that in the future. The study I'm in its in its infancy now so I wont be a part of it until the end (got other things to do with my life lol) but if by the time it is published and we're all still on the forum then ill definitely let you know! It's longitudinal so it's gonna take a while lol.

Trying to catch up. Where did pot come into play

That's exactly what I suggested (just about Monica having to clean up her husband's gambling debts and maybe having gotten involved in loan sharks and the mob).

Your suggestion about Monica's concern about Eva's safety because of her past experiences is plausible. I can hardly wait to see how things play out with this storyline.

Never thought of this theory but I still think its Clancy and Stanton

I still see Gideon in the future hiring the brother as Eva's or his bodyguard or for one of their children eventually...

What brother?

Btw Gigi gnocchi are my favorite food and next time I will wear my priestess gown while I consume them...

Lol

Hi Sheens, 

What I was referring to was the "priestess dress". I wasn't sure what that was exactly.  I also thought that it was a very pretty dress, that in a pinch served as a wedding dress.

What a typo. Lol.

Good guess! I won't be able to drink but i can still go and enjoy a virgin margirita:)

Since I don't drink vodka mine margarita will be with alcohol

I just saw on Facebook that the 4th booktitle will be released next week

I am with you fluffy (sorry nicked Julie's pet name for you) I don't think they should release the photo's of them on the beach, like you said and Eva said that was a private moment for them both and I don't think she would want the world to see them

The beach photos won't be released. The 2nd wedding will be released

Hello.

 

This is my first post.  So excited to finally be on and able to get involved.

 

My suggestions...

Book 4 - One with you

Book 5 - Eternally Crossfire

I like externally crossfire

Question # (whatever we're up to): what are your feelings about sex swings?

Sex swing with Gideon anytime

Here are my theories

 At the dinner Gideon told Deanna, hang tight, I will give you something by Saturday at the latest that you will appreciate. 

Book 4  I have 22 chapters and I know I missed a lot but I'm at work and had to do this on my break.  I'll think about it more when I get home.

 

• Gideon & Eva sex Friday morning.
• Gideon & Eva talk about everything that happened at the dinner including Anne, Monica & Liz.  Gideon explains his concerns about the video and Deanna.  He explains that he is going to send Deanna to the Caribbean to investigate a recent marriage.  He tells Eva that he will not wait until next June to let everyone know that she is his wife.   Eva is good with the decision but asks that she have enough time to talk to Victor and Monica before the pictures are published.
• Eva & Cary leave (on a commercial flight) for SD with an angry Gideon left behind.  Victor picks them up at the airport and Eva tells him about the recent events in her life. Gideon follows in his private plane because he knows Brett is going to be there.  A little argument where he admits he trusts Eva but he is worried about the video.  Sex in SD.
• Eva meets with Dr. Travis and they talk about Gideon & Brett.   Eva tells Dr. T about the sex video and he reminds her that Brett wasn’t a good relationship for her.  She understands after their talk that Brett won’t settle for being friends.  Cary’s talk with Dr. T. who helps him evaluate the situation he is in and the person he really loves.  Cary realizes that he is intentionally sabotaging his relationship with Trey and agrees that it is time to tell Trey everything past & present.  Victor, Gideon, Eva & Cary have a dinner that is more pleasant than the last dinner they had together.
• Brett sees the wedding pictures on Sunday and is angry that Eva didn’t give him a second chance.  He comes at her because he wants her to feel him “one more time inside herâ€.  Eva takes him down with her Krav Maga skills just as Gideon walks (breaks) in.  Eva tells him to never contact her again. 
• Eva & Gideon get the sex tape and burn it.  Sex, really hot victory sex.
• Return to NY together on Gideon’s plane.  Eva asks Gideon for help setting up her foundation.  Cary is worried about his talk with Trey and Tat.  Let’s not forget more plane sex.  (Love it.)  Cary, Eva & Gideon decide on the changes to the penthouse & finalize the plans. 
• Lots of congrats at work for Eva.  Gideon & Eva send notes back and forth. Mark & Eva have a lunch.  Mark and Eva have a new Crossfire account to work on.  Gideon & Eva go back to couples therapy.
• Chris Jr. is angry & tries to sabotage Gideon.  Chris Jr. has a major screaming match with Gideon/Eva & Liz because he thought he was going to get the sex tape and embarrass Gideon & Eva. 
• Chris Jr. is the trigger that starts Gideon & Eva & Liz talking about the abuse.  Elizabeth is devastated and admits she was too into her own issues and chose to believe what the doctors said instead of seeing what was right in front of her eyes in her son’s hurt and anguish.  There are still bad feelings but they agree to get together for a dinner at Eva’s one night next week.
• Elizabeth seeks help from Dr. Demented and Gideon finds out.  Gideon& Eva meet with Deanne to set her on a path to expose the Dr. D and her crazy behavior.
• Gideon has a bad nightmare.  Eva is there to comfort him.  They talk about the past more and Gideon tells Eva what Angus did for him.  The next day they go to Tableau One for dinner.  Paparazzi are all over them. 
• With Deanna’s help Gideon finds out what Dr. Demented did to Corinne and Dr. D. now treating his mother.  Gideon vows to strike back.  Eva & Gideon talk more about his past.  (Comfort sex follows)
• Gideon & Jean Francois join forces and take Dr. D. on. JFG realizes that it was Lucas who was behind Corinne’s drastic personality change not Gideon.  Gideon & JFG hit both doctors with multiple malpractice suits. 
• Working with JFG helps Gideon get over his guilt about using Corinne.  Corinne sees how much her husband loves her and wants to work on their marriage.  While not really friends the Giroux’s acknowledge Gideon’s help and leave on a jet plane to France and begin again.
• Cary tells Trey about the baby.  Trey tells Cary that he will help him raise his child. Cary has lunch with Eva to talk about his life with Trey.  He invites Trey to live with him at the new apartment.  Gideon/Eva & Martin & Lacey double date at one of Gideon's clubs.  (Obviously sex here.)
• Cary confronts Tat and tells her he will support his child but he is cutting it off with her.  Tat tells Cary it was a false alarm and she isn’t pregnant.  She does something to hurt Gideon & Eva but I’m not sure what yet.  Shower sex after the confrontation.
• Eva finds out from Megumi that Michael is an abuser and beats her.  Eva asks Gideon for help but Michael shows up one day when Eva and Megumi are off to lunch.  Krav Maga to the rescue.  Angus jumps out of the car & Gideon races out to help them.
• Gideon finds out that Clancy & his brother gave him the get out of free card.  He has questions but they have to wait until book 5.
• Boss at W L & F want to promote Eva over Mark.  She is angry and talks to Gideon.  Mark and Eva go to work for Gideon.  In the new positions Mark is still in advertising & Eva is in crisis management but they will still work together on some accounts.
• Gideon / Eva organize a benefit for Eva’s new foundation.  Cary is put to work on the project and they develop and shoot ads.  Cary hires Trey as photographer.
• Sex in Eva’s new office.  Then more sex at home.  Graves makes another appearance at Parker’s studio.  More discussion of Nathan’s death (to be continued in book 5.)  Eva asks Monica’s again about her past issues but she still won’t talk about them.  Gideon tells Eva what he found and they decide to discuss what to do after they have their end of book sex. 

 

• I only have 22 chapters but I was doing this between my real  job.
• The outstanding Vidal issues will be resolved in book 5 before the HEA.

This will move into Book 5.  I loved this project.  I know I'm way off but hey it was fun.

I can't keep up. I disappear a few days. One thing though we will find out about Monica and money in 4. She said that when I was at Barnes and noble in paramusb

LN you will love Man of Steel, I loved it so much, Henry Cavill is amazing in it and when you first see him in that suit, Oh Boy I think I combusted there on the seat LOL, he is just dripping sex in that suit.  Henry gives so many different emotions in this film and there is a part in there that I just felt he acted like Gideon would have done with Eva at a low point, it was just so good,  I hope you enjoy it

I have to admit I never saw Henry cavil act. I knew what he look like. Tonight we went and saw superman. He's definitely Gideon and not Christian

I think Magdalene has seen the light finally. I think part of her reason for talking to Eva that day was to warn her about Deanna and gauge how she would handle her.

But I think a large part of it was her trying to make amends with Eva by telling her Corinne was out of the picture.

I think she realises that Gideon wants Eva and will eventually get her, and if she wants to continue her friendship with him she needs to become friends with Eva.

Magdalene has known Gideon a long time and if she truly loves him she wants what is best for him. Because of the length of their friendship she knows he has never been happier than when he is with Eva.

I agree

JFG is right to be angry at Gideon for having given Corrine false hopes. Gideon allowed him and Corrine to repeatedly be photographed together under circumstances that would lead anyone to believe there was something going on between them -- and never once did Gideon publicly deny all the rumors. Gideon himself admitted he let even Corrine herself draw her own conclusions it's possible they were headed toward couplehood. He obviously allowed people all around them to draw the same conclusions -- including possibly JFG's own in-laws.

 

For his own desperate reasons, Gideon manipulated Corrine into playing a certain role -- and in doing so, fed her craziness.  Then without warning, he yanked the rug out from under her feet and started avoiding her as much as possible. Mr. Clueless yet again totally underestimating how much women read into his actions -- good and bad -- from Anne Lucas to Deanna Johnson to Eva herself.

JFG did say to Eva that Gideon used Corinne to get Eva back. I would have to check which page

At last.

"Don't" I lifted my hands, then dropped them. "Just don't. I'm going to leave now, because I'm so pi+sed off I can't even look at you. And I don't want to hear from you, unless its with a sincere apology. Until you admit your wrong, I can't trust you not to do it again."

You go girl! Letting Monica have it with both barrels.

 

and she could have said a whole lot more to her too

She might go the Italian way and have both the engagement ring and the wedding band on the same finger.

Are Italian women the only ones to wear two rings?

 

In the US we wear both on the same finger

Good point. I hadnt thought of that scenario for how she got pregnant and I agree its plausible. Though, something about JFG's anger towards Gideon makes me believe this is a more recent break up, also the fact that he still seems somewhat hopeful that he might have a chance of winning Corinne back. If they were several months into a divorce I imagine he might have been more resigned to the fact he had lost her and have started to move on.

I disagree however, that Corinne was incapable of rational thought by the time she left France. All of her interactions with Eva, namely the 2 times she tried to convince her she'd been F(&^*** Gideon, she had very little time on both of those occasions to think about how to act, and yet she took advantage of both occasions in a very calculated way to make Eva jealous. Both times she makes a lightning fast decision to turn the situation to her advantage and can think clearly enough to formulate a plan almost instantly. That doesn't strike me as irrational, desperate maybe but not irrational.

I must say I am really enjoying discussing and learning others views and ideas. Its great reading other peoples take on certain scenes and opens up a different way of thinking that may not have occurred.

 

When she was f%%ing JFG, the face was Gideon.   You never know.   Some women are very desperate.   They go at great lengths.   Gideon was the one who away.   I love reading the forum too.

Hi Kirsten

Maybe she did, but she was much much much more distracted by seeing her own engagement ring on Eva's hand.

 

PS. Awsome smiley face!!!

 

I would have to reread it but wasn't he wearing the wedding ring when he was at the hospital.   The engagement ring would stand out (at the event) because it was Lizzy's.   Everyone wants to look at the brides rings and not the man's ring.

A couple thoughts.  The discussion about the Gideon/Terry relationship.  I think that by the time Gideon went to Terry there would be an indication of rape.  If he was still at the hand job stage why would Gideon be so angry.  He would know that there wasn't any tangible proof of abuse.  I don't know what was going on when the first doctor say Gideon but I'm positive that Terry had proof that he covered up.

 

Regarding Corinne.  I think her husband found her and called Corinne's parents, like a husband should.  I suspect Corinne's parents were at an event with Liz and went to the hospital together.  Eva knows that JFG told Corinne about her engagement and that sent her over the edge.  I agree with everyone that Gideon never should have gone to the hospital.  Even if he did, it would make more sense if he took in the situation and left knowing that her husband was there.  Gideon continues to take too active a role in Corinne's life and problems.

 

I felt sorry for Eva and JFG.   They were the outsiders when they were there.

So you can see where I'm going. A very dark path where the Lucas family are concerned. I was wondering if Anne kept her maiden name in the practice. Dr Anne ?, Mrs Anne Lucas.

If Anne had an affair with Gideon, while knowing about the abuse by Hugh, she is one screwball. Also I think she was one of the two women who suffered depression along with Corinne at the end of the book. Which she told Eva about. Bunny boiler or what!!

 

Julie - I had mentioned this somewhere else.   When Anne mentioned about 2 women being depressed over him, I believe the other women was Anne.

Yes but you have to admit the 70's and 80's had some great tunes!! :)

And I still know the words.

Actually the main songs in my iPod are the 80s

Are we going to have some sort of celebrity date auction?

 

Or are we going to have some sort of Krav Maga smackdown -- last woman standing gets a night with Gideon?

Lol

Chapter five was great.  But Gideon is a contradiction in terms.  When Eva was explaining the towels as a gift to him she said "me all hot and sweaty and desparate for you"  "ummm a fantasy I indulge in often"  then she said "do you think about me when you get yourself off?  he replied " I don't mas***te".  then later he said, "before you"  I stroked off every time  I took a shower, it was as much a part of my ritual as washing my hair" Pg 55.  Now aren't these two things the same?  if that is not mas****ting I don't know what is.   then she fusses at him for making her look like a sex maniac and my favorite quote  "If you don't like it, grow a gut or stop showering or something"  "or just say not, Gideon".

 

BTW  Gideon didn't use "elizabeth's* ring for Corrine's engagement ring, he went to a store and bought the first one she saw. 

 

any comments?

It shows how much he was into getting engaged...NOT.

Good evening Ladies!!!!

After spending a wonderfuld weekend at the Garda Lake, I'm soooooo glad to be here with you.

 

Here's my favourite lines in Chapter 3

 

1) "I  sat up and leaned against the headboard, making no effort to cover my bre*sts because we were going to end up talking about his ex-fiancée. I played dirty when warranted."

 

2) "I want to be everything you ever found in the other women you've been with." Women he had taken to a f*ck pad with toys.

"I can't keep my hands off you. That should be enough to tell you I don't need more."

 

3) I'll be da*ned if plastic, glass, metal, or leather will make you come. B.O.B. and his friends will have to find other amusements."

 

4) "We are totally dysfunctional." " I prefer 'selectively deviant'. But we'll keep that to ourselves."

 

5) What girl didn't want to obtain the unattainable?

 

6) Brett's voice "sounds like S-E-X rolled in chocolate and covered in whipped cream."

 

I'm stlii reading the older posts..... always catching up!!!

 

Are you with the Italian Gideon at Garda Lake - having some "alone" time.