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 Hi MrsCrossfire, I don' take kindly to threats straight up. If you have something to say than say it. Just remember that what ever you say is documented. Keep that in mind before you make veiled threats.

Hi MrsCrossfire, I just had one more point to make, you talk about how much you respect Sylvia Day yet when she informed her fans about the release date of June 4th to help avoid any problems for the fans yet you yourself told everyone on this forum on SEVERAL THREADS about how you went and bought the book and were busy reading it and preparing for the discussion.  From an outsiders perspective it would seem that you put your selfish needs ahead of everyone else and bought the book and what's worse, you decided to rub that in everyone's face. If that isn't hypocritical and disrespectful to SD then I don't know what is. Â

Hi MrsCrossfire, Go back and count the number of people who actually agreed to this. I think that you will be fully surprised at how many people actually consented. You have been allowing your "friend" to spill the beans since before 9am. Straight up, I find that highly hypocritical.  Surely you can't be that naiive when you yourself cautioned a few people about their "codes" and "symbols". You and I am sure many others were easily able to figure out what was being said. It isn't that difficult to figure out the BK would most likely stand for Brett Kline....  Again, let me very clear so that there is no possibility for misinterpretation, I think that i have been extremely respectful and extremely tollerant of others and their opinions and views. It is the few that have commendeered the forum and have spoken for the vast majority and that isn't right.

          Hi MrsCrossfire, I went back and read the posts from this morning. I noticed that you and others who set up this thread were spilling and inadvertently spoiling for the other readers who may not have read all of the chapters either. Straight up you were aware of this since before 9am this morning and yet you said nothing. You also participated in the "spilling and spoiling". Please in future, when you caution and chastize others, come in with clean hands. You allowed it from some but not others. Feel free to explain. Thanks in advance.

Hi Julie, I like that too.

 Hi Julie, No worries, it is all good. We are simply having a passionate discussion about a fun book.

 Hi MrsCrossfire, I would kindly like to remind you that when everyone was discussing how this entire next book should be handled only five or six individuals spoke up and thought that there should be as many threads as there are. Might I respectfully remind you that a few individuals cannot speak for the majority.  I would also note that people have been discussing this book in code or letters or whatever since well before Friday and dare I say that there has been nary a cricket sound of displeasure from opposing camps. Keep that in mind. Thanks in advance.

Hi Julie, I am not sure that Eva had any more class than anyone else at that point in the book, she simply knew herself and her limits better because she had been around that block before. I don't think that has anything to do with class.Â

Hi Kirsten, You are too hillarious!

Hi Julie, There is no dispute about Gideon's actions (nor do I wish to dispute them). The plain and simple fact from perspective is that Deanna knew the score from the get-go. Your words exactly "Look at how Gideon propositioned Eva". Do you think that Deanna would have gotten seduction and roses? I say no. I just think that she is crying sour grapes. She saw an extremely good looking, wealthy man and decided to bed him, but when things didn't go according to plan (i.e. she expected him to be nice to her and buy her a drink) she balked. Straight up, it sucks to be her.  I always taught that at the end of the day, the ONLY thing that we as women are responsible for are ourselves and that includes whom we choose to allow into our bodies and how we negotiate that. The straight up fact is that Eva did a better job negotiating and called Gideon out on his bulls**t (when he tried to make s** nothing more than a transaction) than Deanna did. If you don't open your mouth to say that this how I expect things to go or we are not going to play, then you can't blame anyone else but yourself. At the end of the day Deanna decided to go back to the hotel, pull down her pants and as a results she got screwed because she didn't do a better job of negotiating with Gideon.  People may not like the way the message is being delivered but that doesn't make the message any less true.   Â

Hi Nrock, I think that given the fact, that Eva and Gideon had broken up and Cary saw Eva suffer through that entire situation, Eva didn't want to get into explanations about why Eva had suddenly taken Gideon back after such a public display on Gideon's part of having moved on.  I also think that if Cary and Eva had begun talking about the Gideon situation, Eva would have eventually spilled the beans about Gideon and what he had done for Eva. That would have put Gideon at further legal risk and Eva didn't want to do anything that could bring harm to Gideon. What do you think? What does everyone think?

Hi Julie, I agree with you completely. That woman is pure evil (as I stated in another posting). Everything she has done has been cold and calculated. She also has the medical experience to really mess with someone's head. I have a feeling that she will play a pivotal role in the next book. Honestly when I read what she did and said to Eva, I was ready to vomit! She really got my hackles up! Â

My gut tells me that woman is pure evil and is someone that needs to be watched in the next book. I think that everything she did was cold, calculated and done with malice! What do you think? What does everyone think?Â

 Hi Julie, You make a valid point. I always took a s*ag to be a sha* and nothing more. No let's grab a drink, no let's have a quick snack...nothing. I sometimes think that women want to have their cake and eat it too. I know that when someone has a fling with someone, terms of the arrangement usually are agreed upon. I think that women become emotionally invested as soon as they pull down their pants and often times get hurt, which is a shame.  I always thought that if a guy were out trolling a bar for some nookie, then I always assumed that manners and proper etiquette weren't high on his priority list. Do you know what I mean? What do you think?

 Hi Julie, I just lost this great post that I was about to post and I forgot…yet again to save before posting…Sigh!!!!  I am not sure about the danger thing running in the family unless you are talking about Anne Lucas and her brother, but I don’t feel the same way about Dr. Lucas. He is nothing more than a little rodent who goes around and picks at people’s insecurities by making them question their sanity and by planting seeds of doubt. An adult can fend that little f***** off (I absolutely would be afraid with him and children!!), but his wife is another thing altogether!!  Anne went out of her way to find, investigate, stalk and seduce Cary all in an attempts to get at Eva and thereby Gideon! If that is not dangerous then I don’t know what is. I think that this woman is someone to be watched very carefully!! What do you think? What does everyone else think?

Hi Jmhope, I liked that quote too. I think that Gideon went back and forth from his penthouse to the apartment. I too am not sure how much time he spent at each location. What does everyone else think?

Hi Julie, I think that Anne Lucas is definately a person that needs to be watched. I so horrified by the fact that she tried to seduce Cary, Eva's roomate in attempts to get back at Gideon (thereby Eva inadvertently). I seriously think that this woman is pure EVIL and a serious contender for being an absolute whack-job!!! What do you think?  What does everyone else think?Â

Hi Ssrph, I agree with you in that it was romantic that Gideon chose the apartment next door to Eva. Where I found the scenario odd was in his varied placement of Eva's exact furniture in said apartment. He was trying to recreate something that didn't exist. Gideon has his apartment and style, as does Eva. What I would have personally liked was when Eva found out about said apartment, maybe they could have chosen the things in the apartment together (circumstances and time may not have permitted, I get that). What do you think? What does everyone think?

Hi Julie, I guess that is what surprises me the most. When you only just meet someone does that person really believe that the man they just met is going to fall in love with them or does that woman think that by offering sex to the man they are attracted to, will be enough to catch said interest and then that they will fall in love with the woman?  I can't tell you the number of times I have heard of women taking men to bed in the hopes of said man falling in love with said women.  Listen, we are all spectacular human beings within our own right, but none of us has magical vagin***. They are sold at Walmar* or at the local s** shop. If they did, EVERY SINGLE WOMAN on this planet would be out buying one! Of that I am absolutely sure!

Hi Gayle, I think that as soon as Gideon and Eva had s** that clinched the deal for him. I think that for the first time in his life he completely and instantly fell in love with a woman. She enjoyed the type of se* that he enjoyed and they both seemed to click right from the very start. They had previous s****l encounters (or at least attempts or partial completions of s** acts in; Gideon's office, the nightclub and at Eva's apartment). If Gideon was in like with Eva before s** in the limo, he was completely in love by the time they got to the limo scene.  My answer is yes, from my perspective Gideon instantly fell in love with Eva when he laid eyes on her. The s** acts between them simply solidified this for Gideon. What do you think? What does everyone else think?

Hi Sharonm745, How could any woman not feel cheap after meeting some guy in a bar, hotel, etc. agree to go back to a hotel to have s** and then when the deed is done, they are sent packing. What one earth would ever make someone think that that impersonal act of s** wasn't exactly what is was. It was random, consensual but strictly s** with no strings attached.  I don't condone this, don't get me wrong, I just find it astounding that women pick up men in bars or at social gatherings, or allow themselves to be picked, sleep with a guy and then start crying when the guy turns around and says it was fun and see you later.   Do these women honestly think that by sleeping with some random guy that they are going to get him to fall in love? What does everyone think?Â

Hi Nathalia, When I read the chapter I wasn't exactly sure of what went on during one of his sessions in the f**k pad. I got the impression that Gideon used these women to get them off, but no mention was made as to whether these women provided some measure of oral s** on him. If he didn't have full penetration with the majority of these women, then isn't it a little odd that he would pick up women simply to give them ?  Is it just me or does anyone else find that odd? If two individuals mutually decide to have a s****l encounter then wouldn't these women find it odd that Gideon would say...no se* but hey I have all these s** toys and I am going to get you off? So then Gideon wouldn't be placing his hands on the women (or maybe the majority of them), he would be using se* toys as his substitute d**k...weird! What does everyone else think?

Hi Everyone, I had the opportunity to read the second chapter again and I found some really interesting points. The reader has the opportunity to see how Gideon and Eva communicate with one another and it seems that despite the latest revelations, they are still struggling.  Eva is still rearing from Gideon’s deception about Corinne. Instead of directly confronting Gideon about what happened, she refers back to the discussion with Dr. Peterson and Gideon’s explanation of what “sexual encounters†meant to him.  It seems like Gideon is splitting hairs and to this reader it almost seems like that in a subtle way, he is trying to control the release of the information he wants to impart, thereby controlling the tone and direction of the conversation.  Despite that little interaction, nothing has been resolved yet. It is obvious that these two still have a lot of work to do in the communication department.  What does everyone else think? Â

Hi Jennpenn926, I really hope that the next book comes out by Christmas. It would be such a lovely way to say thank you to all of the loyal fans who have stood by with all the Penguin Publisher snafus!!

Your husband should consider himself the lucky recipient of these books (now who's got the smile one their face? Wink, wink)!Â