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Quote Gigi It may be a stretch but I have to wonder whether on some subconscious level, Elizabeth Vidal was punishing Gideon because he resembled/in some way represented a part of the husband who hurt so many people and destroyed her family and life. I also have to wonder whether she may have been a little resentful of having to cart around a child from a previous marriage when she was trying to build "a new ideal life and family"?

I had wondered about Gideon resembling his father - we know he looks like his mother facially but was his father similar? Eva's comments on the photo of father and son were just that he had movie star looks and his body was how Gideon's is now.

I also wondered about the actual circumstances of Geoffrey's death - was the deed done at home and who discovered him, Elizabeth or Gideon?

If we don't get all our answers in OWY Sylvia is going to have to give us those via Facebook or Twitter!

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Hi Kirsten,

I read your comments and I agree with you to a point. I can understand Elizabeth Vidal being so stressed out that she couldn't handle anything more, what I can't understand is why she just didn't fire Hugh. All she had to do was that ONE thing and even is she didn't do anything else, it would have at least limited the damage that Gideon suffered.

I am sorry, I simply do not buy that whole overwhelmed thing, so the way to solve the problem of a child acting out is to send them back to the person that the child had DIRECTLY made allegations against!!

I can completely understand STRESS!! I can understand a woman being on the verge of completely being overwhelmed, what I don't understand is why this woman had NO mothering instincts toward her own child?!! What in the sam-hill could she have been thinking???

It may be a stretch but I have to wonder whether on some subconscious level, Elizabeth Vidal was punishing Gideon because he resembled/in some way represented a part of the husband who hurt so many people and destroyed her family and life. I also have to wonder whether she may have been a little resentful of having to cart around a child from a previous marriage when she was trying to build "a new ideal life and family"?

I realize that I have advocated for waiting to hear about Elizabeth Vidal's past, but the more that woman opens her mouth, the less I like her even more! She crucified one child while offering protection to her two other children. If that's not disgusting then I don't know what is!! The woman had the wherewithal, money, means and family support and SHE chose NOT to avail herself of that help. SICK!!

I just wanted to add that yes, I know this story is fictional. I think that the issues that have been raised in this book are unfortunately all-too-real and I find it weary some that there seem to be more excuses than action to end these types of scenarios. Thank you for your posting Kirsten.

Hi GiGi,

I didn't say that Elizabeth was overwhelmed. All I was trying to say was that Elizabeth was unable to deal with that fact that Gideon was being abused and this abuse had taken place right under her nose. Is there any excuse for it? Of course not. I wasn't trying to justify Elizabeth's actions at all. She'd rather see her son continue to be abused by a therapist she's welcomed into her home than admit that things in her life are much less than perfect. It's disturbing.

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Well since we are getting down and dirty lol I do have a question about Gideon's sexual habits...Going down on a woman is a very intimate act and usually reserved for a woman a man really cares about even Gideon refers to it that way when talking to Magdalene about catching him in the library with Eva...He said he was not going to apologiize for making love to his girlfriend in a closed room...

So if he didnt use his dic$ to pleasure the women he must really have very skilled hands etc because I just cant see him "eating" for lack of a better term all those hundreds of women and then of course there would be the risk of HPV...

Also you make a good point about Christopher and voyeurism... Perhaps he did see what was going on between Gideon and Hugh and has repressed those memories...I wonder if Christopher has nightmares too???

What do you all think??? :). :)

 

 

Didn't Anne metioned something about 'all the s*xtoys he loved to use'???

 

Gideon and his "thousand ways" to make a woman come. Hands, mouth, toys, and very occasionally his tool (that four-letter word should get by the naughty filter.) Eva found a draw containing toys that one and only time she was in his hotel room.

 

My theory about the reason he didn't often engage in intercourse is he didn't want to feel compelled to have to come. His abuser forced him to do so every time as part of the mental/emotional manipulation. Fast forward to him as an adult desperately needing control: he controlled every aspect of sex, including whether or not there would be penetration and whether or not he would come with whatever one-night-stand he had with him in the hotel room. For example, he did have intercourse with Deanna but he took a phone call before he was through and then told her to leave instead of finishing.

 

Something else that struck me was how before Eva entered his life, he relieved the pressure of his high libido by stroking off in the shower. The symbolism of the water washing him clean. He once told Eva that after he'd been with Anne he would shower but couldn't feel clean no matter how long he stood under the water.

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It was doubtless this anger that rose in him when he was with Anne due to her likeness to Hugh, which led him to be 'particularly depraved' with her and from the fact she came back for more and he allowed her to (because he felt he was punishing Hugh as well as Terence Lucas) she must have thoroughly enjoyed the experience. And I bet she hasn't found anyone quite as good at what he did to her to take his place which could be one of the reasons she is after him.

Noting he was 'particularly depraved' with Anne could mean there was some depravity with others, after all his early s*xual encounters were all forced on him, possibly the vanilla s*x we assume he had with Corrine was not enough for him, whereas with Eva he realised that it was and although he would like to have a little of the kink, he's actually quite happy with vanilla.

 

I think the sex with Corrine started out vanilla, but it's my theory that he started getting kinky after they got engaged. He felt panicked the whole year of the engagement. I can see him feeling like his rigid in-control started spinning out of control when she essentially backed him into an emotional corner. He responded by acting out in bed. I think it was that realization their sex life was not normal that was the real reason she broke off the engagement. Maybe even he unconsciously figured out scaring her was working. He was relieved she ended things.

 

This makes me wonder about the tell-all book, what will be in there about him sexually if she does publish it. Gideon's worried Eva is going to react to it the same way he reacted to the sex tape. So this makes me wonder what sexual secrets might be there. He's also figured out Corrine is no longer the woman he knew years ago. That she's willing to give up her privacy and violate his shows she's continuing to act crazy. How's this for a theory: She thinks his relationship with Eva is all about fighting and f...... The only hold Eva has on him is sexual because she's willing to do what he wants in bed. So Corrine has this crazy idea about reminding him their old relationship was all about comfort with hot f...... too. She is now willing to give him whatever he wants in bed so long as she can have him. So the book serves two purposes: driving Eva away in jealous rage and reminding Gideon the way he was with her in bed years ago.

 

Who knows whether I'm right or it's a crazy guess. We'll see when the last Crossfire book comes out: does she go through with the tell-all and if so what is in there. Or at least we readers get a look into Gideon's memories of Corrine in the hotel room like we did get a look into some of his memories of Anne in the hotel room.

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I think the sex with Corrine started out vanilla, but it's my theory that he started getting kinky after they got engaged. He felt panicked the whole year of the engagement. I can see him feeling like his rigid in-control started spinning out of control when she essentially backed him into an emotional corner. He responded by acting out in bed. I think it was that realization their sex life was not normal that was the real reason she broke off the engagement. Maybe even he unconsciously figured out scaring her was working. He was relieved she ended things.

 

This makes me wonder about the tell-all book, what will be in there about him sexually if she does publish it. Gideon's worried Eva is going to react to it the same way he reacted to the sex tape. So this makes me wonder what sexual secrets might be there. He's also figured out Corrine is no longer the woman he knew years ago. That she's willing to give up her privacy and violate his shows she's continuing to act crazy. How's this for a theory: She thinks his relationship with Eva is all about fighting and f...... The only hold Eva has on him is sexual because she's willing to do what he wants in bed. So Corrine has this crazy idea about reminding him their old relationship was all about comfort with hot f...... too. She is now willing to give him whatever he wants in bed so long as she can have him. So the book serves two purposes: driving Eva away in jealous rage and reminding Gideon the way he was with her in bed years ago.

 

Who knows whether I'm right or it's a crazy guess. We'll see when the last Crossfire book comes out: does she go through with the tell-all and if so what is in there. Or at least we readers get a look into Gideon's memories of Corrine in the hotel room like we did get a look into some of his memories of Anne in the hotel room.

I dont think Gideon  got kinky with Corrine and as Gideon said he got panicked when they got engage because marrying Corrine is not an option  . He cant tell his secret, she broke the engagement thinking Gideon would finally come to his senses and actually marry her . I think GIdeon treated Corrine smooth and slow, He seems to have used his toys to his one night stand . But Corrine said he was possessive and it scared her. So what does it mean? if im going to be honest I would like to know what is the book . I want to know the young Gideon . I believe it would not be degrading because even if Corinne was  hurt  and crazy I dont think  she would intentionally hurt Gideon that way. all she want was to proved to him that he did  love her after all. I think it was Elizabeth and Corrine  who is tag team. How did Corrine knew about elizabeth ring given to eva.

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I dont think Gideon  got kinky with Corrine and as Gideon said he got panicked when they got engage because marrying Corrine is not an option  . He cant tell his secret, she broke the engagement thinking Gideon would finally come to his senses and actually marry her . I think GIdeon treated Corrine smooth and slow, He seems to have used his toys to his one night stand . But Corrine said he was possessive and it scared her. So what does it mean? if im going to be honest I would like to know what is the book . I want to know the young Gideon . I believe it would not be degrading because even if Corinne was  hurt  and crazy I dont think  she would intentionally hurt Gideon that way. all she want was to proved to him that he did  love her after all. I think it was Elizabeth and Corrine  who is tag team. How did Corrine knew about elizabeth ring given to eva.

 

You could be right the kink came after she left him. I think it came near the end of the engagement and that is what scared her. Hopefully we'll both find out more in the final book.

 

Keep in mind the person she said the things about "possessive" and "scared" to was Eva the first time they met and she was subtly manipulating Eva by twisting things around. Like saying she and Gideon spoke on the phone nearly every day when that no longer was true and had not been true for weeks, since he met Eva. She tried to hide the fact the fact they used to be engaged: Magdalene made sure that came out. She acted like she had no clue he had someone with him the night he bailed out of the advocacy center dinner to rush off to take her phone call for help from France. She knew Eva has a bad jealousy problem and so she was feeding her half-truths and was lying by omission. Same deal as when they had their argument weeks later when Eva went to her apartment. But that first time they met, Corrine acted nervous too, and I think she let some things slip. Like the "scared"

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I dont think Gideon  got kinky with Corrine and as Gideon said he got panicked when they got engage because marrying Corrine is not an option  . He cant tell his secret, she broke the engagement thinking Gideon would finally come to his senses and actually marry her . I think GIdeon treated Corrine smooth and slow, He seems to have used his toys to his one night stand . But Corrine said he was possessive and it scared her. So what does it mean? if im going to be honest I would like to know what is the book . I want to know the young Gideon . I believe it would not be degrading because even if Corinne was  hurt  and crazy I dont think  she would intentionally hurt Gideon that way. all she want was to proved to him that he did  love her after all. I think it was Elizabeth and Corrine  who is tag team. How did Corrine knew about elizabeth ring given to eva.

 

P.S. Agree with you Corrine and Elizabeth are a tag team. Which proves just how little his mother and his ex really know about him.

 

I think she is capable of deliberately hurting him, because she's crazy and it is possible Anne is feeding the crazy, so she is now capable of anything. Proof: the suicide attempt, which hurt him terribly. I feel she is still off the deep end. Yet how is she out of the hospital so soon? Maybe her doctor signed her out? 

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My own suspicion over the anger is in a post I made a few days ago, along the lines of it could be learned behaviour. Hugh taught Gideon to control his anger via mas*****tion and Hugh then went on to penetrate Gideon, possibly violently (in his nightmares he is writhing in agony. I guess he now relates very rough s*s to his anger and uses that to dissipate the anger. In the elevator scene he knows he should stay away from Eva but she taunts him with the red teddy. I took his actions then to be tying her up to stop her from taunting him further, then going off to shower and drink lots of water to cool down some of the raging 'ardour' he was now feeling and the water would possibly be to try and dilute the alcohol already in his blood stream. He also needed Eva to be more relaxed hence giving her a small glass of spirits.It was doubtless this anger that rose in him when he was with Anne due to her likeness to Hugh, which led him to be 'particularly depraved' with her and from the fact she came back for more and he allowed her to (because he felt he was punishing Hugh as well as Terence Lucas) she must have thoroughly enjoyed the experience. And I bet she hasn't found anyone quite as good at what he did to her to take his place which could be one of the reasons she is after him.Noting he was 'particularly depraved' with Anne could mean there was some depravity with others, after all his early s*xual encounters were all forced on him, possibly the vanilla s*x we assume he had with Corrine was not enough for him, whereas with Eva he realised that it was and although he would like to have a little of the kink, he's actually quite happy with vanilla.

I also think in the elevator he was confused and thats why he needed to settle... He normally associates taking out his anger on brunette women that he doesnt care about but this nite he would be taking out his anger on the woman he loves more than life and she happens to be blonde so it must have been really messing with his head...

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My own suspicion over the anger is in a post I made a few days ago, along the lines of it could be learned behaviour. Hugh taught Gideon to control his anger via mas*****tion and Hugh then went on to penetrate Gideon, possibly violently (in his nightmares he is writhing in agony. I guess he now relates very rough s*s to his anger and uses that to dissipate the anger. In the elevator scene he knows he should stay away from Eva but she taunts him with the red teddy. I took his actions then to be tying her up to stop her from taunting him further, then going off to shower and drink lots of water to cool down some of the raging 'ardour' he was now feeling and the water would possibly be to try and dilute the alcohol already in his blood stream. He also needed Eva to be more relaxed hence giving her a small glass of spirits.It was doubtless this anger that rose in him when he was with Anne due to her likeness to Hugh, which led him to be 'particularly depraved' with her and from the fact she came back for more and he allowed her to (because he felt he was punishing Hugh as well as Terence Lucas) she must have thoroughly enjoyed the experience. And I bet she hasn't found anyone quite as good at what he did to her to take his place which could be one of the reasons she is after him.Noting he was 'particularly depraved' with Anne could mean there was some depravity with others, after all his early s*xual encounters were all forced on him, possibly the vanilla s*x we assume he had with Corrine was not enough for him, whereas with Eva he realised that it was and although he would like to have a little of the kink, he's actually quite happy with vanilla.

Gideon is happy with the vanilla because for the first time in his life he is happy and it shows to everyone who sees him... He is definitely wearing his heart on his sleeve as Arnoldo pointed out... He finally has a deep, passionate emotional connection with a woman he is fuc$ing and it is the greatest sexual experience of his life...ENUF SAID...I agree with you that Corinne thinks that all Gideva have is the fuc$ing and no substance that is why she thinks she still has a chance with him...If she only knew...It is a good theory that maybe Gideon wanted more kink and Corinne didnt want to participate but hopefully we will get to the bottom of it in OWY.

As for Corinne's possessive comment at the gala; I always though she was lying/exaggerating then and I still do.

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I think February is possible if the book as Sylvia said is already written and edited. I also think there has been some talk by indie authors about capitalizing on the FSOG release and maybe having more readers interested in the genre. The sooner the better on one hand, but then that will end their story and I'll miss them.

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Hi Sscrph,

I read your comments and you raise a very proactive question.  What I find really interesting is that every time Gideon is confronted with a nightmare or a face to face discussion about his past abuse, he has a driving need to have very aggressive s*x.  I find it difficult to understand why he feels the need to have very rough, aggressive and nearly violent s*x?  Does anyone have any theories.

 

My theory is also based on taught behaviour. Like I've mentioned before, I believe that Gideon never learned how to handle his emotions. So many feeling is put in the "angry" box. Hugh showed him how to manage negative emotions while abusing him, and that is why he has trouble to handle it otherwise/ without the aggressive s*x. He might not know any other way (without being physical violent), because there weren't anbody around to show him. I think that the more he get pushed to his limits, the bigger possibility for him to loose control. Eva is da*n good at pushing him to the breaking point, but fortunately with love and caring instead of hate &anger. So when he gets upset his body responds automatically in the only way he knows how to cope with. for instance every time he's reminded that he can not control Eva (presumably a stress faktor), or when he is in situations which reminds him of the abuse. By acting out the way he was taught he will find some security and gain control.

An example from'real life' is that Sadly some victims of abuse turn into predators as adults. Their intention isn't necessarily to harm, because they can remember how it was like for them when they were a victim. But the closeness they got, is what they miss, and they never learned how to get it without assaulting someone. This is of course no excuse for their behaviour, but an attempt to explain (which is far more easy in my own language lol) What we learned growing up is such a huge part of us, and it is so hard to get rid of or change our bad patterns.

 

I realize that I have advocated for waiting to hear about Elizabeth Vidal's past, but the more that woman opens her mouth, the less I like her even more!

I just wanted to add that yes, I know this story is fictional.  I think that the issues that have been raised in this book are unfortunately all-too-real and I find it weary some that there seem to be more excuses than action to end these types of scenarios.

You spoke my mind. I just want Elizabeth to vanish. I don't think Gideon will be able to forgive her, and she certainly doesn't deserve it. I'm putting her on the Krav Maga list!!

I agree with you, it's fictional, but still a reality for so many people. Sylvia has absolutely not overdone the plot..... Maybe that's why we get so dedicated to the story.

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I think February is possible if the book as Sylvia said is already written and edited. I also think there has been some talk by indie authors about capitalizing on the FSOG release and maybe having more readers interested in the genre. The sooner the better on one hand, but then that will end their story and I'll miss them.

I don't want it to end either :'(

I hope we'll be satisfied with the answers in OWY or this "break-up" is going to be so hard. I can feel the grieve just thinking about the end....

I enjoyed FSOG, but Crossfire is far more better, without a doubt. If I could have decided there would be 6-8 books in this series. Then we have followed GidEva for a year. Keeping my fingers crossed so that I can see Crossfire on TV one day, that it will be send internationally.

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G and se*---I think he was so angry with Lizzie that he chose women who looked like her and did all kinds of kinky stuff to them.  Hence all the se* toys Eva found in the f*ck pad.  It was never about getting off for him.  He did that for himself in the shower cause he saw it as dirty.  We all know why.  I can see him accepting oral se*, which I am certain he did, but I absolutely do not think he did a whole lot of giving in that department.  That's pretty intimate and he was not about intimacy at all.  It was about rough and punishment.  I think this all started after he broke up with Corrine.  I agree their life was pretty vanilla.  It was a relationship.  He didn't ever envision another relationship after her.  So, into the kink.  As for the book, I do not think Corrine has any kinky stuff that she would talk about.  She wants G back.. That sure would never happen if he was totally embarrassed by that book.  The purpose, according to her, was to get Eva out of G's life by reminding him about how great and calm and easy their life was together and contrast it with how chaotic G and E's life is now.

 

Release date--I am never going to speculate.  I was so sure CBY was going to be out by the summer and we see how wrong I was.  This time, I have no clue.  Timing it with the FSOG movie?  Not a bad idea since Sylvia is often said to be the next most popular author after EL James.  I just want it.  Now.  

 

I don't see LIzzie as a threat at all.  I hope that the theories about Graves are true cause I like her and I want to continue to like her.  It would be interesting if she and Eva shared the abuse survival.  Invited to the wedding has always surprised me.  Why would she be?  That sentence made me suspect of her.  It would be cool if these 2 became friends.  There is enough reasonable doubt with Nathan that I find it impossible for G to be indicted let alone convicted of anything unless Nathan had a camera in his room which I doubt.  Graves being an abuse surviver makes a whole lot of sense.  I hope that is the way it will go.

 

Deanna is sleezy.  I was so surprised in AFTERSHOCK when she was not like she was in Crossfire.  I want her handled and end of.

 

As for the redheads--could it be that Hugh was a red head?  I cannot remember.  

 

Chris Jr being a voyeur? He is so creepy on so many levels that it wouldn't surprise me.  I.do.not.like,or trust. him at all.

 

I still think Anne is the scariest person in this whole mess.

 

Here is something else that I wonder about.  Sylvia never said that the TV thing was on hold in the interview we saw.  It sounded to me like it was being worked on.  God, I hope so.  Anyone else?  She still mentioned Henry and Scarlett.  I think the chances of Henry are slim to none.  That man is busy.  He will always be G to me.

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Here is something else that I wonder about. Sylvia never said that the TV thing was on hold in the interview we saw. It sounded to me like it was being worked on. God, I hope so. Anyone else? She still mentioned Henry and Scarlett. I think the chances of Henry are slim to none. That man is busy. He will always be G to me.

I'm afraid you're right about Cavill. I read that he's in the middle of Supermann vs Batman, estimated to be finished spring 2016. He's JUST as I pictured Gideon to be, with his intense blue eyes and huge HOT superman body *yummy*

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G and se*---I think he was so angry with Lizzie that he chose women who looked like her and did all kinds of kinky stuff to them.  Hence all the se* toys Eva found in the f*ck pad.  It was never about getting off for him.  He did that for himself in the shower cause he saw it as dirty.  We all know why.  I can see him accepting oral se*, which I am certain he did, but I absolutely do not think he did a whole lot of giving in that department.  That's pretty intimate and he was not about intimacy at all.  It was about rough and punishment.  I think this all started after he broke up with Corrine.  I agree their life was pretty vanilla.  It was a relationship.  He didn't ever envision another relationship after her.  So, into the kink.  As for the book, I do not think Corrine has any kinky stuff that she would talk about.  She wants G back.. That sure would never happen if he was totally embarrassed by that book.  The purpose, according to her, was to get Eva out of G's life by reminding him about how great and calm and easy their life was together and contrast it with how chaotic G and E's life is now.

 

Release date--I am never going to speculate.  I was so sure CBY was going to be out by the summer and we see how wrong I was.  This time, I have no clue.  Timing it with the FSOG movie?  Not a bad idea since Sylvia is often said to be the next most popular author after EL James.  I just want it.  Now.  

 

I don't see LIzzie as a threat at all.  I hope that the theories about Graves are true cause I like her and I want to continue to like her.  It would be interesting if she and Eva shared the abuse survival.  Invited to the wedding has always surprised me.  Why would she be?  That sentence made me suspect of her.  It would be cool if these 2 became friends.  There is enough reasonable doubt with Nathan that I find it impossible for G to be indicted let alone convicted of anything unless Nathan had a camera in his room which I doubt.  Graves being an abuse surviver makes a whole lot of sense.  I hope that is the way it will go.

 

Deanna is sleezy.  I was so surprised in AFTERSHOCK when she was not like she was in Crossfire.  I want her handled and end of.

 

As for the redheads--could it be that Hugh was a red head?  I cannot remember.  

 

Chris Jr being a voyeur? He is so creepy on so many levels that it wouldn't surprise me.  I.do.not.like,or trust. him at all.

 

I still think Anne is the scariest person in this whole mess.

 

Here is something else that I wonder about.  Sylvia never said that the TV thing was on hold in the interview we saw.  It sounded to me like it was being worked on.  God, I hope so.  Anyone else?  She still mentioned Henry and Scarlett.  I think the chances of Henry are slim to none.  That man is busy.  He will always be G to me.

The main reason that Gideon and Eva's life is so chaotic is mainly because former sexual partners " i wont call them lovers" can not get on board and realize that Gideva are off the market...permanently. These people are so delusional that they concoct these schemes to extract revenge or simply want to hurt Gideva. Even Eva in Chapter 18 comments that this is not usual for an "engaged" couple. Usually people offer their best wishes or say nothing at all if they are not happy. The people in Gideva's life are over the top. Corinne did not have a REAL relationship with Gideon that is why it was calm. There was no emotion or passion. She could have had that with Giroux but she chose to ruin that all on her own. It was not in any way Gideon's fault. He fell in love with another woman . Corinne was married and had no business messing with Eva's man. Her story is old news now: SHE NEEDS TO GO!!

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I also think in the elevator he was confused and thats why he needed to settle... He normally associates taking out his anger on brunette women that he doesnt care about but this nite he would be taking out his anger on the woman he loves more than life and she happens to be blonde so it must have been really messing with his head...

You got to keep in mind that when talking to Dr Peterson, Gideon has put it out that he is ALWAYS VERY AWARE of Eva's triggers and is respectful of not trampling on them....  That said, when he tied her in the elevator, he was at least partially drunk and concerned about her triggers so he had to move away for a while, settle down and think this through (STAY IN CONTROL).  I think with this in mind, the elevator and how he handled his anger make a lot more sense.

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I think February is possible if the book as Sylvia said is already written and edited. I also think there has been some talk by indie authors about capitalizing on the FSOG release and maybe having more readers interested in the genre. The sooner the better on one hand, but then that will end their story and I'll miss them.

they said the 5th book would be released not far from  book 4. I would think 3 months should be  ok specially when most readers complained about book  4 very late release not that it affect book  4 sales. i dont one it to be finished as well.. it would be sad

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3 months from book 4, will be around the premiere of FSOG. When is the premiere in US/UK? In Norway it's set to 13 th of Feburary.

Ambivalence is challenging, want the book badly, but not the end of the series.

 

Ours is Feb. 13th too. And I agree completely. It'll be bittersweet when the release date is out for OWY.

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I don't want it to end either :'(

I hope we'll be satisfied with the answers in OWY or this "break-up" is going to be so hard. I can feel the grieve just thinking about the end....

I enjoyed FSOG, but Crossfire is far more better, without a doubt. If I could have decided there would be 6-8 books in this series. Then we have followed GidEva for a year. Keeping my fingers crossed so that I can see Crossfire on TV one day, that it will be send internationally.

 

Before CBY I wanted the Gid/Eva story to last longer but there is too many months between books.  If Sylvia or her publisher would give use two GidEva books a year I can see how she can make this into a longer series.  However, at this point, I just want the last book to have all the questions posed throughout the books thus far answered.  I'm nervous that isn't going to happen so I have resigned myself to a decent HEA.   wedding-kiss-smiley-emoticon.gif

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G and se*---I think he was so angry with Lizzie that he chose women who looked like her and did all kinds of kinky stuff to them.  Hence all the se* toys Eva found in the f*ck pad.  It was never about getting off for him.  He did that for himself in the shower cause he saw it as dirty.  We all know why.  I can see him accepting oral se*, which I am certain he did, but I absolutely do not think he did a whole lot of giving in that department.  That's pretty intimate and he was not about intimacy at all.  It was about rough and punishment.  I think this all started after he broke up with Corrine.  I agree their life was pretty vanilla.  It was a relationship.  He didn't ever envision another relationship after her.  So, into the kink.  As for the book, I do not think Corrine has any kinky stuff that she would talk about.  She wants G back.. That sure would never happen if he was totally embarrassed by that book.  The purpose, according to her, was to get Eva out of G's life by reminding him about how great and calm and easy their life was together and contrast it with how chaotic G and E's life is now.

 

Release date--I am never going to speculate.  I was so sure CBY was going to be out by the summer and we see how wrong I was.  This time, I have no clue.  Timing it with the FSOG movie?  Not a bad idea since Sylvia is often said to be the next most popular author after EL James.  I just want it.  Now.  

 

I don't see LIzzie as a threat at all.  I hope that the theories about Graves are true cause I like her and I want to continue to like her.  It would be interesting if she and Eva shared the abuse survival.  Invited to the wedding has always surprised me.  Why would she be?  That sentence made me suspect of her.  It would be cool if these 2 became friends.  There is enough reasonable doubt with Nathan that I find it impossible for G to be indicted let alone convicted of anything unless Nathan had a camera in his room which I doubt.  Graves being an abuse surviver makes a whole lot of sense.  I hope that is the way it will go.

 

Deanna is sleezy.  I was so surprised in AFTERSHOCK when she was not like she was in Crossfire.  I want her handled and end of.

 

As for the redheads--could it be that Hugh was a red head?  I cannot remember.  

 

Chris Jr being a voyeur? He is so creepy on so many levels that it wouldn't surprise me.  I.do.not.like,or trust. him at all.

 

I still think Anne is the scariest person in this whole mess.

 

Here is something else that I wonder about.  Sylvia never said that the TV thing was on hold in the interview we saw.  It sounded to me like it was being worked on.  God, I hope so.  Anyone else?  She still mentioned Henry and Scarlett.  I think the chances of Henry are slim to none.  That man is busy.  He will always be G to me.

 

I guess I read that statement differently from many of you.  I thought Graves was being sarcastic and didn't expect an invite at all.  She isn't a friend or business associate with either the bride or the groom.  I don't see Graves and Eva becoming friends.  Graves would be a constrant reminder of Nathan and Gideon is having enough problems dealing with killing a man.

 

I don't think the TV series is on hold.  It sounds like they are in the planning stages to me.

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Hi GiGi,

I didn't say that Elizabeth was overwhelmed. All I was trying to say was that Elizabeth was unable to deal with that fact that Gideon was being abused and this abuse had taken place right under her nose. Is there any excuse for it? Of course not. I wasn't trying to justify Elizabeth's actions at all. She'd rather see her son continue to be abused by a therapist she's welcomed into her home than admit that things in her life are much less than perfect. It's disturbing.

Hi Kirsten,

Let me begin this posting by apologizing about the way I phrased my posting.  I did not mean to imply that you were in some way or in any trying to justify Elizabeth Vidal's actions.  You were simply relaying information that you were kind enough to share from another source.

 

What I was reacting to was Elizabeth Vidal's ongoing denials and justifications about her actions.  We as the readers have been given very little about what Elizabeth Vidal's life was prior to her husband's death and all we have had the opportunity to see is how she reacted when she was confronted with the fact that her child was being abused (which was beyond disgusting...enough said).

 

After reading about Gideon's account of his abuse I was horrified.  It also solidified my opinion of what kind of person/mother Elizabeth Vidal is.  I had a visceral reaction.  It is the mark of a truly great writer is someone who can evoke strong emotions with the swipe of a pen.  Sylvia did a brilliant job of and is to be commended in my books.  I am sorry that you got caught in the Crossfire (no pun intended).
 
 

 

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Hi Kirsten,

Let me begin this posting by apologizing about the way I phrased my posting.  I did not mean to imply that you were in some way or in any trying to justify Elizabeth Vidal's actions.  You were simply relaying information that you were kind enough to share from another source.

 

What I was reacting to was Elizabeth Vidal's ongoing denials and justifications about her actions.  We as the readers have been given very little about what Elizabeth Vidal's life was prior to her husband's death and all we have had the opportunity to see is how she reacted when she was confronted with the fact that her child was being abused (which was beyond disgusting...enough said).

 

After reading about Gideon's account of his abuse I was horrified.  It also solidified my opinion of what kind of person/mother Elizabeth Vidal is.  I had a visceral reaction.  It is the mark of a truly great writer is someone who can evoke strong emotions with the swipe of a pen.  Sylvia did a brilliant job of and is to be commended in my books.  I am sorry that you got caught in the Crossfire (no pun intended).

You are certainly right about Sylvia's writing Gigi; the passage where we hear for the first time the details of Gideon's abuse in the bathroom is riveting. Even though you dont want to read anymore the reader is compelled to do so to seek resolution. Gideon's description of his dream to Eva in the last chapter of the book is also very poignant... Sylvia has certainly captivated her readers as she tells Gideon's story.

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