Nathalia

I get what you're saying but I still believe that Gideon told Corinne up front that they would never be more than friends.  I think through the two or so weeks that Corinne was his plus 1 he treated her like a friend.  Even when he leaned in and talked to her for the photographer, I think that was a calculated move on his part and the comment was something mundane. I think Corinne liked the picture that was in the paper but she knew it was nothing.  My guess--even when Gideon took her home, he walked her to the door and didn't even go inside using the excuse that he has an early morning (like college) or he arranged with Angus to give him a phone call that he could use as a "need get away" for an emergency excuse to leave.

 

I think that Corinne tried to convince Gideon he wanted more but she understood the relationship wasn't going to move forward the night at the Kingsman event.  I think she stayed around with Gideon while he was dealing with the fire issues because she knew the hotel.  She thought Gideon would take her to the f**k pad but he didn't.  I think that night drove the point home that Gideon was really only going to be a friend.  

 

What surprises (angers) me is that Corinne never saw how Gideon was hurting.  Even Eva, as much as she was suffering herself, recognized that Gideon was in pain and asked Corinne to take note when she stopped by her apartment.  Eva told Corinne that Gideon loves her not Corrine but she has the opportunity to be his friend.  Unfortunately Corinne didn't want to be friends she decided to strike back and make Gideon suffer more by attempting suicide and killing her child.  The more I think about the more I hate her. 

 

I agree w/ this 100%

There are some text inconsistencies that somehow made it into print somewhere along the editing process.

 

Mr. Barker = #1

Mr. Mitchell = #2

Richard Stanton = #3.

 

Page 99 of of Reflected should say "second" husband.

Page 260 should say "over the course of three marriages"

I caught that too!

 

This is exactly what I think. 

 

Elizabeth has lied to herself.  Gideon had to have nightmares as a child but, like Monica, she was to wrapped up in her own issues to figure out how to deal with her son's accusations.  It was easier for her to believe the doctor's lie.  When she saw Eva, Eva recognized the love in Elizabeth's eyes for Gideon.  Elizabeth thought Eva would help her become a part of Gideon's life in the future.  I believe Eva will and Elizabeth will appreciate it in the end but Lizzie needs to admit the truth and apologize to Gideon. 

I hope Elizabeth comes to Eva's side. She probably just hates that someone else know what happened.

I still am so angry w/ Monica being so oblivious to Eva's abuse. 4 years of it...and Barker wasn't home much b/c of work. So what was she doing? Ugh..

Here's a question I keep wondering about. Why does Cary never have any money? I know someone says male models don't make nearly what female models make ( now there's a nice switch!) but if he's appearing in giant ads in Times Square and sides of busses, he must be pulling in a fair amount - even with time off after the beating. And he may not even be paying any rent. I expect he gets a deal on his clothes,too.

OMG! I've been wondering this too?! How could he not afford to pay for a flight to Cali?  He doesn't pay rent, no car....what's he got? A phone bill? Shopping ?

Yes, the phone conversation in the car was fun!

 

Mabye Eva will give Gideon the swing as a wedding gift? A surprise for him when he comes home from work one day? Lol.

 

Do we think that maybe Victor saw the flowers in Eva's room when he put her to bed? Saw they were from Gideon? I'm dying to know about their convo! (Gideon and Victor)...I soooo want to know what was said.

 

I like the thoughts that the 10th floor is being remodeled for Eva...I would've never thought of that.

What about this? Yes, a little teeny-boppy...but it's good! I think

 

Selena Gomez ' Come and Get It'

[chorus]
When you're ready come and get it (x2)
Na na na (x3)

When you're re-e-a-dy (x2)

When you're ready come and get it
Na na na (x3)

You ain’t gotta worry it’s an open invitation
I’ll be sittin’ right here real patient
All day all night I’ll be waitin’ standby
Can’t stop because I love it, hate the way I love you
All day all night maybe I’m addicted for life, no lie.
I’m not too shy to show I love you, I got no regrets.
I love you much to, much to hide you, this love ain’t finished yet. This love ain’t finished yet…
So baby whenever you’re ready…

[chorus]
When you're ready come and get it (x2)
Na na na (x3)

When you're re-e-a-dy (x2)

When you're ready come and get it
Na na na (x3)

You got the kind of love that I want, let me get that.
And baby once I get it I’m yours no take backs.
I’m gon’ love you for life I ain’t leaving your side
Even if you knock it ain’t no way to stop it
Forever you’re mine baby I’m addicted no lie, no lie
I’m not too shy to show I love you, I got no regrets.
So baby whenever you’re ready…..

[chorus]
When you're ready come and get it (x2)
Na na na (x3)

When you're re-e-a-dy (x2)

When you're ready come and get it
Na na na (x3)

This love will be the death of me, but I know I’ll die happily
I’ll know I’ll know I’ll know
Because you love me so…Yeah!

[chorus]
When you ready come and get it
Na na na (x3)

When you're re-e-a-dy (x2)

When you're ready come and get it
Na na na (x3)

Gina Carnaro I think her name is?

I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but I read somewhere that Henry C. was gay (not that there is anything wrong in that), but it does put a damper on all the fantasising(spelling)    but he is nice to look at.    Maybe Superman will prove me wrong.

Nope...he's not gay. He's dating ....oh I forgot her name...that MMA fighter...

Matt Bomer is gay...

We can still fantasize

I just want to say that I think Deanna is def a stalker...maybe a 'bunny boiler' as you ladies have said. She's making me nervous. Stalking Eva at her place, all those events, corinnes , Magdalena , crosstrainer etc. how could she really be so bent out of shape w her one night w Gideon ? What dd she expect ? The ring ? Lol

What about this?

Bruno Mars. Treasure

Give me your, give me your, give me your attention baby

I got to tell you a little something about yourself

You're wonderful, flawless, ooh you're a sexy lady

But you walk around here like you wanna be someone else

I know that you don't know it, but you're fine, so fine

Oh girl I'm gonna show you when you're mine, oh mine

Treasure, that is what you are

Honey you're my golden star

And if you could make my wish come true

If you let me treasure you

If you let me treasure you

Pretty girl, pretty girl, pretty girl you should be smiling

A girl like you should never look so blue

You're everything I see in my dreams

I wouldn't say that to you if it wasn't true

I know that you don't know it, but you're fine, so fine

Oh girl I'm gonna show you when you're mine, oh mine

Treasure, that is what you are

Honey you're my golden star

You know you can make my wish come true

If you let me treasure you

If you let me treasure you

You are my treasure, you are my treasure

You are my treasure, yeah, you you you, you are

You are my treasure, you are my treasure

You are my treasure, yeah, you you you, you are

Treasure, that is what you are

Honey you're my golden star

You know you can make my wish come true

If you let me treasure you

If you let me treasure you

Hi Nathalia, 

I think that Corinne's parents might blame Eva because she is what was standing in the way for their daughter's happily ever after.  I would have to think that at some point, Corinne must have confided in one of her relatives that she may have made a mistake in marrying the wrong man and that she made a mistake when she walked away from Gideon. 

 

They may be reacting on an elemental level; do what ever is necessary to keep our daughter from trying to kill herself again.  I think that if they took the time and looked at the situation, they probably wouldn't be so quick to judge.  They would begin to realize that their daughter had serious issues that go way beyond Gideon.  What do you think?  What does everyone think?

That's true

I don't believe that Anne was the psyc.  Wouldn't Gideon know her?  He said he ignored her advances until he found out she was Lucas' wife.  He was only going to be with her one time but continued because it hurt Dr. Terry.  It seems to me if he knew Anne was his doctor he would have reenacted one of his dreams for her.

I agree with this. I don't think she was either. He would have known her.

In this book I felt that something had fundamentally changed about Eva .I can't quite put my finger on it but I lost some of the liking I had for her in the first two books .In Bared and Reflected she was this refreshing heroine the type of which you don't come across often in romance novels I loved her .In this book something was off about her for me. I don't know if the Brett stuff is interfering because one of the amazing things about Gideva for me is their mutual love ,devotion ,captivation and obsession that leaves no room for either of them to be ###### after another .I even got to thinking that she and Brett had more heat than Gideon in the sack as mad as that sounds because she's still ###### after him when all he offered was sex and Gideon in affering her all of himself.When I started the book I had this dread that she was going to end up in bed with Brett and that still hasn't gone away going into the next book and perhaps that's the issue or I have issues .I read the book three times thinking that maybe the first time I rushed through it and didn't absorb her as a character or I've been reading so many other books and had been out of the crossfire world and needed to reacclamatise .I loved Gideon and have consistently in previous books and the strange thing is at times I felt he deserved better than her I even considered that maybe if Eva if so hot for Brett it wouldn't be a bad thing if she was with him .I know how wrong it is in my head but couldn't help it .I loved Cary in this book and I was off him a bit in Reflected ,perhaps it's natural to go off a character every once in a while and I'll get to really like her again in the next books.

Whoa.....i was thinking the same thing. I absolutely loved Eva in the first two books.....now....idk....maybe it is the Brett thing . Or maybe it seems Gideon is doing/giving so much and she isn't . I do like how she's fighting on his behalf....but yes, Eva is worrying me.

I hadn't even thought about Corrine's parents reaction. Of course they will blame Eva for their daughters actions. This is going to be messy at the beginning of book 4 don't you think?

Why would they blame Eva? Shes still married . It has to be obvious to everyone now that corriine and Gideon weren't dating . Why would he bring Eva if they were....so maybe they had all assumed ,or Corinne fed it too. Idk. I want her out of the pic ASAP in book 4. She's not Gideon's problem , she's her husbands . Gideon's gotta cut ties indefinitely . No?

Btw, I may have multiple postings comin up...catching up on all these pages! :)

 

How I interpreted what Gideon said to Eva in Chapter 2 was this:

 

• To deal with his loneliness and the need to "get out of his own head" so to speak, he'd use women as a diversion.
• I think that in the hotel room itself, he focused all the attention on whatever woman was there as a way to shift the attention away from himself.
• Pleasuring them was a way to maintain constant control over the situation itself. It kept them "at his mercy" so to speak.
• Toys were a pretty surefire way to keep them at his mercy -- most of these women probably had B.O.B. at home, and so a threesome with a B.O.B. and Gideon was a surefire way to make them come.
• His definition of full-blown sex involved using his d***. But this also involved in his mind -- I think -- actual intimacy, something he very much tried to avoid.
• Perhaps he was still regretting his one failed attempt at true intimacy -- Corrine -- and so was determined to avoid any emotional entanglement ever again.
• I think that every so often he got so h**** in the heat of the moment that he did end up "going all the way." But those poor women ended up worse off than the women he simply toyed with (bad pun intended). Because if he did stick his d*** into them, he'd immediately go on a head trip. Look at how shut down and cold he turned on Eva when he went on that first-sex headtrip.
• Perhaps Magdalene really had it literally right when she said once Gideon stuck his d*** in a woman, he was done. At best, he probably maintained short-term fooling-around-with relationships with the women he'd take to the hotel, but any woman who he actually had intercourse with (like Deanna) got asked to leave immediately and then never got contacted again.

 

Ok...thanks LN...i think I get it. Although maybe a lil grossed by it lol..Servicing all those women ...

Couple of things - one I think Eva's position changed even before Gideon came to her apt. I think he realized it when he called her and said, "You've got the advantage, state your demands." I can't see him letting himself be that submissive to any of his other f-buddies before - even if he just thinks he's toying with her.

Two - speaking of rationalizations, when Eva tells Cary she doesn't know the name of the sexy new neighbor, does she justify the lie by meaning the person playing the role (Gideon) hasn't given her the name of his persona? Doesn't seem like her.

Oh right! I forgot about that! I didn't understand why she didn't think she was lying. That makes sense...if she was thinking of Gideon as the neighbor and playing it in her head. Cary had to have known right away like he said...I like how he kept asking her.

Yes it's crossfire..!!

I thought the same!

Did you see on Sylvia's Facebook that she won't be posting the release date of Book 4 until it's ready to go? Lol..Smart lady.

Go for it, so much choices...hmmmm

I like it too! Gideons ring?

 

 

Oh...someone mentioned Giroux before too...I don't think he's a problem really. I'm sure it's hard that his wife left him, for no reason really now. I'd be angry too if her family called her ex fiance to the hospital! Really? Why would they call Gideon...i wonder if it was his mom or Corinnes., I too am glad Eva went w/ him at least. She better have!

 

I wonder how many people have seen the sex tape. If was the point of reference for the video (gag..ugh)...then ...y'know? I'm sure Bret knows about it.

I don't know! I think maybe she just noticed her staring at them...but ...i'm sure she did. how could she miss them together all night. She's really creeping me out tho.

Did she realise it was Eva she slandered Gideon to? Or just took a potshot at anyone who would listen. She is pure evil. She put herself about in the first place! When Gideon realised who she was he exploited it to hurt Lucas. Her brother did the right thing. How many other children did he hurt?

 

Hmm...I wonder...Maybe they were in a shouting match and one thing led to another. I'm sure it wasn't all Victor...it was obvious to Eva last time they were together that was still an attraction. I'm sad it happened though, b/c nothing is going to come of it but guilt. Why did Monica need new clothes!??! Lol...were hers ripped off? Hehehe

Do you think Monica had sex to placate Victor? Or to play on his quilt?
 

He was angry and devastated. She is good at turning on the womanly wiles!

 

I just wanted to say that I agree with everything you said. My thoughts EXACTLY!!!!

 

One other thing: what's up with Megumi?

Thanks Gayle! I wrote so much lol. Oh right! Megumi! Hmm...idk what to think about that. A part of me is suspicious since she never got back to Eva, but was able to call in sick...and another part just thinks it's nothing. It's just showing how Eva is caring and wanting to be a good friend.

Yep, President Bill Clinton became infamous for his stupid rationalizations.

 

As a young man, he was offered a marijuana joint -- supposedly, he went through the motions but "didn't inhale" -- so technically he never did drugs. HAH!!! Puh-leeze. Not that trying marijuana is anything to be ashamed of.

 

But there was the more infamous insisting, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" that turned out to be a big, fat lie -- one that nearly cost him the Presidency. He got blow jobs from that intern -- and he found out the hard way that almost everyone DOES count oral sex as "sexual relations" instead of his own narrow definition of genital intercourse.

 

Our fantasy hero, Gideon, has got the same skewered view "I did not have sexual relations" with the women he put his talented fingers in, tongue on/in, used sex toys on .... whatever. 

 

I wonder whether Gideon did count blow jobs, though -- given that his definition that if he did use is d*** on a woman, then it was getting laid.

 

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Wait, see, I was confused by this. So all these women he took back to the hotel, the majority of them, he didn't actually sleep w/. So, he just serviced them? No, they serivced him? I didn't get it. But he did sleep w/ Deanna. So, when exactly was he 'not finished yet' when he answered the call as she told Eva? I don't get that whole thing. Sorry for allthe typos on this page and the others. Got my son climbing my legs and sliding down right now lol

i'm curious as to how Gideon got the ring...Did he have it already? If so, from when?

 

I have a bad feeling Eva will do something stupid in SD...I hope Gideon goes w/ her lol

 

So, Eva bought Gideon his ring, does she not have a wedding band? His souns so nice!

'why didn't Eva tell Monica they were engaged when they were getting ready at her huse before the fundraiser? Monica had said "he's got to propose first!' when Eva mentioned that he woulnd't want to wait to get married.

 

Sorry, I've got so many questions!! How annoying am I ? :/

OH! And why would Eva tell Brett that she and Cary are going to SD the next week? He didn't have to know!

Ok..so glad we can discuss!!

(This is going to be long, sorry)

 

I've gotta say that I did love the book, even though it really really annoyed me quiet a few times. Why the added drama?! Why??

Ok, let’s start lol;

 

Love that Gideon is living next door…I think maybe that’s another reason why he didn’t contact her that whole week or  so that they were apart, he knew what she was doing…I wonder if he saw her leave the apt after her makeover as ‘New Eva’. Lucky for her he was at his other apt when she came by after Graves talked to her!

 

Love that Gideon had already told Corinne no more when Eva told him to stop seeing her. Loved even more when Eva told him about the two times she tired to make her believe that they were sleeping together, that it solidified for Gideon that he was cutting her off completely. Hooray…love that! Love how Gideon just wants to be w/ Eva…worship her…make her happy any way he can. Any thing she wants, he will give it to her. Buying her the new watch was so sweet (a REALLY nice one too!) to make up for her pain-in-the-a$$ mom and the fact that she ruined a sentimental gift w/ the Rolex.

 

The night club scene…yes…hot!!! J I like to see Eva hanging out w/ girlfriends and making new ones. Gideon taking care of her the next morning…so sweet.

 

Deanna??? WTF? Why is she everywhere?! Can’t Eva keep her from coming even into the lobby?? And why was Gideon letting her touch him at the fundraiser? Her hand on his arm? Didn’t want to be rude and her off even more maybe? Seriously? How does she know about the tape? Brett’s got to know about it. Probably for a while. Why does Eva need more drama like that. More things for Gideon to take care of.

 

Speaking of rude…Really Eva w/ the inviting Brett back to your place? Really? And look who was in the lobby! It was one thing to go to the video event, at least she took Cary and Gideon and Ireland were there (Love Ireland!), but then going up w/ Brett to watch it, then watch it and see how horrible it is, then speak to the host, then take him to dinner still!! Really?? Ughh…that annoyed me. And then later in the book she texts him a smiley face. Way to not send mixed signals Eva! L Sorry, the whole Brett thing bothers me. And it’s not Brett I’m annoyed w/.

 

I like the Russian mob bit. That’s great…if it’s someone helping Gideon. I too thought of Angus immediately….but, yes, I think it may be Clancy. I’m good w/ that. Maybe Angus and Clancy together. I liked that we got to find out that someone was looking after Cary too…so maybe Clancy didn’t get to him on time, but scared Nathan away before he killed him? I’m assuming then that Monica did know for sure that is was Nathan who hurt Cary.

 

Corinne…really?? Again, Gideon was letting her touch him, then she tries to kiss him…glad that didn’t happen. I’d hate to think she didn’t know she was pregnant. It is possible though. Do you really think Anne could be her pshyc? Wouldn’t Gideon have seen the Dr. name on the RX bottle? That would be really messed up if it were. I think it’s time for that whole doctor family to do down. Malpractice all over the place!

 

Anne creeped me out too. What’s w/ her telling Eva about Deanna like she did? Did she know that was Eva? Where was Lucas? What the heck, she just to happen to pick Cary to mess around w/? Ughh…too many questions.

 

I like Magdalena…I’m glad she’ll be a friend to them. An ally for Eva hopefully.

 

Who’d I miss?

 

Oh! Victor and Monica! Oh jeez! I was so looking forward to their battle! I really wanted him to go off on her. I wanted to cry when he called Eva after he found out and then when she saw him. Aww…daddy and his little girl L. I felt like there should have been more w/ that, no? I can see how Victor and Monica slept together, they both have feelings still. Ugh. Awkward for Eva! I’m glad Gideon asked Victor (like I’ve been saying!) for Eva’s hand. So happy about that J OH, and Graves asking Eva what Victor thought about them. Had they been in contact (Victor and Graves)?

 

I thought it was funny Graves and Eva in Krav Maga.

 

I like that it didn’t take too long for them to come out together.

 

I’m on the fence about the ring. I can see the sentimental value in it, but Gideon doesn’t like his mom…so…Idk how id’ feel looking at it everyday, knowing the person who it originally belonged to hurt him so badly. I would’ve thought he’d design his own.  I am a bit surprised by how mean Elizabeth was.

 

I loved the wedding and the pre-nup. I think there was a scene in the book when Eva heard Gideon on the phone…I forgot when, but I think he was on w/ his lawyers putting it together J Do women really get money for having kids? Lol.

 

I feel bad for Cary. I hope it’s not really his baby, but he’ll have  a while to find that out (if she really is preg).

 

Ok..this is really long. Sorry. Just put it all out in one shot. J

Love those GiGi and JennPenn

I was at the grocery store today, laughing to myself looking at a 5 lb bag of carrots. Thinking of you ladies and your donkeys ....lol.

Excellent point -- I think the best way many of us want to savor the story is nice and slow. Kinda like Gideon makes love to Eva, a nice pace instead of "wham, bam, thank you mam."

 

But I'm wondering whether certain specialty threads might make sense for people who want to focus on a particular larger subject right away. Mainly to separate topics that cover multiple chapters (like the exes) from the chapter by chapter stuff. Make things easier for people who do want to jump ahead to particular characters versus people who want going over everything with a fine tooth comb.

 

I figure people will be starting their own threads too, like they have all along -- and which is GREAT, by the way. That's one of the beauties of this site, the ability of each person to start a thread, rather than it being run by moderators.

 

How about this -- those of us who want to do a chapter a day work together to create a thread for that. I think a second master thread clearly marked SPOILER in all-caps should be started too, to give fair warning to anyone checking it out that they might stumble across all the shockers right on up to the end of the story. So folks who really want to avoid spoilers for the time being can steer clear of that one until they're ready.

 

Maybe those two threads, then leave it up to individuals who might want to set up individual thread to focus on very specific things, like the murder case, how things unfold with characters like Corrine and Brett, etc ....

 

If this works, I'll create the two main threads -- chapter a day and SPOILER -- later today to get them ready and label them for what time many of the regulars have agreed to get going tomorrow (9 a.m. Eastern Time U.S. is a popular consensus). Meanwhile, everyone burning to discuss/dish certain characters can get lively discussions going for anyone else who wants to dive in.

I like this idea of two threads. TOo many threads will be messy lol.Can't wait to discuss tom!

One for one chapter a day, and one for spoilers sounds good. Maybe just change the title to this one to EWY Spoilers.