julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hi Julie, Who do you think is counseling Elizabeth Vidal now? Is it still the same psychiatrist or another one?Hi Gigi I'm going with Anne Lucas is still treating her. Then Lizzy recommended Anne to Corinne. Anne is a bunny boiler with her own axe to grind with Gideon. Anne and Corinne are the two women she(Anne) mentions at the end of the book, who have suffered depression because of him. Anne wants revenge big time. I think she is still suffering from a psychotic breakdown. Eva had better watch out. There's trouble ahead. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideofclouds Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hi Gigi I'm going with Anne Lucas is still treating her. Then Lizzy recommended Anne to Corinne. Anne is a bunny boiler with her own axe to grind with Gideon. Anne and Corinne are the two women she(Anne) mentions at the end of the book, who have suffered depression because of him. Anne wants revenge big time. I think she is still suffering from a psychotic breakdown. Eva had better watch out. There's trouble ahead. Good morning/afternoon Julie! I never thought of the lizard still being in therapy to be honest...thats a very plausible theory you have there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sorry just loved the eyes  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShazScott1980 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013   Ive just learned how to post photos  I'M so pleased :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jls1216 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hi Golfergirl, Amen to that sister!  Hey just a quick question several of the forum members have asked before; Can an attempted suicide cause a miscarriage or is it the medications that are administered to said patient what causes the miscarriage? Corinne swallowed a bottle of pills when she tried to kill herself. Was it the pills she swallowed or the medications administered afterwards that could have caused the miscarriage? Thanks in advance. I think that when they pumped her stomach (because of the pills) that's what caused the miscarriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Good morning/afternoon Julie! I never thought of the lizard still being in therapy to be honest...thats a very plausible theory you have there! Good morning/afternoon to you too I thought about it last night. Monica has been in therapy for several years, why not Lizzy? She has a lot to talk about. Gideon, her marriage to Geoffrey, his suicide, her penchant for young men(that's my theory thrown in there). That's how she could have introduced Corinne to Anne Lucas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013   Ive just learned how to post photos  I'M so pleased :)Hi Shaz Well done lady Love the Henry pics. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm going with Anne Lucas is still treating her. Then Lizzy recommended Anne to Corinne. Anne is a bunny boiler with her own axe to grind with Gideon. Anne and Corinne are the two women she(Anne) mentions at the end of the book, who have suffered depression because of him. Anne wants revenge big time. I think she is still suffering from a psychotic breakdown. Eva had better watch out. There's trouble ahead.  Dr. Anne Lucas still treating Lizzie in order to mess with Lizzie's mind is one way for Anne to enact a form of revenge against Gideon. Keep brainwashing Lizzie into believing Gideon had to have lied about the abuse because he was such a troubled kid. Also "encourage" Lizzie in ways to try to bridge the gap between Lizzie and her son, but all  "helpful suggestions" Anne is making are actually manipulating Lizzie into doing things that make matters worse. Like chasing him in a way that violates his emotional boundaries. Laying guilt trips on him that instantly raise his icy shield.  Moving forward in the thread, I'm going to call her Dr. Anne Lucas in emphasis that she is a psychiatrist -- the highest degree of specialty there is in the mental health treatment field, a medical doctor who specializes in mental illness. One of the most important aspects of being a psychiatrist is specializing in the use of drugs to treat illnesses -- and the legal capability of prescribing the medications. That's crucial when it comes to the suspicions Anne ended up treating Corrine. As a psychiatrist, Anne would have specialist information in how the medications work -- including their negative side effects and the fact that in some cases, the meds can make matters even worse. If Anne literally wanted to drive Corrine insane via feeding her psych meds, Anne would know exactly how to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't know how I do it. But mine are bigger than the rest of yours. woohoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't know how I do it. But mine are bigger than the rest of yours. woohoo!  Are we going to start comparing whose Gideon is, um ... bigger .... than whose?  HAHAHAHAHAHA - get it, "bigger"  Sorry, couldn't resist. It's Mad Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Dr. Anne Lucas still treating Lizzie in order to mess with Lizzie's mind is one way for Anne to enact a form of revenge against Gideon. Keep brainwashing Lizzie into believing Gideon had to have lied about the abuse because he was such a troubled kid. Also "encourage" Lizzie in ways to try to bridge the gap between Lizzie and her son, but all  "helpful suggestions" Anne is making are actually manipulating Lizzie into doing things that make matters worse. Like chasing him in a way that violates his emotional boundaries. Laying guilt trips on him that instantly raise his icy shield.  Moving forward in the thread, I'm going to call her Dr. Anne Lucas in emphasis that she is a psychiatrist -- the highest degree of specialty there is in the mental health treatment field, a medical doctor who specializes in mental illness. One of the most important aspects of being a psychiatrist is specializing in the use of drugs to treat illnesses -- and the legal capability of prescribing the medications. That's crucial when it comes to the suspicions Anne ended up treating Corrine. As a psychiatrist, Anne would have specialist information in how the medications work -- including their negative side effects and the fact that in some cases, the meds can make matters even worse. If Anne literally wanted to drive Corrine insane via feeding her psych meds, Anne would know exactly how to do it. She is coming across as a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde character. Could she be self medicating? Making her more psychotic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Are we going to start comparing whose Gideon is, um ... bigger .... than whose?  HAHAHAHAHAHA - get it, "bigger"  Sorry, couldn't resist. It's Mad Monday. Sounds like you are well rested today!! Lol :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Dr. Anne Lucas still treating Lizzie in order to mess with Lizzie's mind is one way for Anne to enact a form of revenge against Gideon. Keep brainwashing Lizzie into believing Gideon had to have lied about the abuse because he was such a troubled kid. Also "encourage" Lizzie in ways to try to bridge the gap between Lizzie and her son, but all  "helpful suggestions" Anne is making are actually manipulating Lizzie into doing things that make matters worse. Like chasing him in a way that violates his emotional boundaries. Laying guilt trips on him that instantly raise his icy shield.  Moving forward in the thread, I'm going to call her Dr. Anne Lucas in emphasis that she is a psychiatrist -- the highest degree of specialty there is in the mental health treatment field, a medical doctor who specializes in mental illness. One of the most important aspects of being a psychiatrist is specializing in the use of drugs to treat illnesses -- and the legal capability of prescribing the medications. That's crucial when it comes to the suspicions Anne ended up treating Corrine. As a psychiatrist, Anne would have specialist information in how the medications work -- including their negative side effects and the fact that in some cases, the meds can make matters even worse. If Anne literally wanted to drive Corrine insane via feeding her psych meds, Anne would know exactly how to do it.  I don't see Anne as Elizabeth's psychiatrist today. As close as Gideon monitors Dr. Terry it seems that he would know and say something to Eva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hey guys, watch this clip, it shows Henry training for Man Of Steel along with the National Guard, I thought it was great, just seeing Henry's tight body  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013   Ive just learned how to post photos  I'M so pleased :) Yay way to go, great photo as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLH Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sorry to interrupt the discussion of Anne and Llizzy.  Last night I reread the section where Eva was at Parker's and met up with Graves again and they sparred.  The line that is bothering me is about the bracelet on the Russian.  Why do you think, if indeed the case is supposedly cold, Graves tells Eva to be concerned about that bracelet?  It just is nagging at me.  What am I missing?  And congrats to Henry.  MAN OF STEEL  breaking records to great for him.  God, he is so hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't know how I do it. But mine are bigger than the rest of yours. woohoo! Your What Julie ??????????????  LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 If all of our darkest suspicions are true about Anne, then she actually is as evil as Terry believes (falsely) Gideon is.  Page 241 of Reflected has the conversation between Terry and Eva in the hospital cafeteria. He could see she looked like h.e.l.l. And at the time, Gideon actually was putting her through h.e.l.l. Terry swooped in to poison her mind and caught her at a vulnerable time.  Below are the things he said ... and then in italics are the things that actually could apply to Anne;  Terry to Eva: "Gideon Cross is a narcissistic sociopath ..." Anne Lucas does narcissistic things (like being a using her sexuality to deliberately manipulate guys) and she most definitely a sociopath (if she was in fact driving Corrine to suicide, then Anne was committing pre-meditated murder purely for revenge purposes to hurt Gideon.)  Terry to Eva: "I believe he's a misogynist. He uses his money to seduce women, then despises them for being shallow enough to find his wealth attractive. Anne Lucas comes across as some sort of man-hater, a serial cheater. She uses her psychiatric skills to manipulate other people, including men, and she despises ones she feels are weak, like her husband, because she has no respect for the man, who obviously loves her. And I'll bet she's fed Terry a tale about how "abusive" Gideon was to her mentally, convincing Terry that Gideon is a monster.  Terry to Eva: "He uses sex to control, and you never what sort of mood you'll find him in." She uses sex to control, and you never know what sort of mood to pull stunts you'll find her in.  Terry to Eva: "He's a master manipulator and liar. Don't underestimate him. He's a twisted, dangerous man capable of just about anything." Just insert "she and her" and you've got Anne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Your What Julie ??????????????  LOL Every time I make a comment on a photo, when it pops up again, it's grown in size. How? But h e l l I'm not complaining!!! Lol :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sorry to interrupt the discussion of Anne and Llizzy.  Last night I reread the section where Eva was at Parker's and met up with Graves again and they sparred.  The line that is bothering me is about the bracelet on the Russian.  Why do you think, if indeed the case is supposedly cold, Graves tells Eva to be concerned about that bracelet?  It just is nagging at me.  What am I missing?  And congrats to Henry.  MAN OF STEEL  breaking records to great for him.  God, he is so hot.  Because as long as there are loose ends, it might not be possible for Graves to just "bury" the Nathan investigation forever. Just because it's "cold" does not mean it's over. It means the cops have hit some dead ends but at any time some sort of new evidence could reignite things to make it a hot case again.  Plus, organized crime is the jurisdiction of the FBI (the Federal police) so depending upon where the Russian Mafia stuff leads, there's always a chance that the FBI might want to take over Nathan's murder investigation from the NYPD. Graves would completely lose control of that case -- and another set of eyes looking at all the files might be suspicious of what she did -- and did NOT -- do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 If all of our darkest suspicions are true about Anne, then she actually is as evil as Terry believes (falsely) Gideon is.  Page 241 of Reflected has the conversation between Terry and Eva in the hospital cafeteria. He could see she looked like h.e.l.l. And at the time, Gideon actually was putting her through h.e.l.l. Terry swooped in to poison her mind and caught her at a vulnerable time.  Below are the things he said ... and then in italics are the things that actually could apply to Anne;  Terry to Eva: "Gideon Cross is a narcissistic sociopath ..."Anne Lucas does narcissistic things (like being a ###### using her sexuality to deliberately manipulate guys) and she most definitely a sociopath (if she was in fact driving Corrine to suicide, then Anne was committing pre-meditated murder purely for revenge purposes to hurt Gideon.)  Terry to Eva: "I believe he's a misogynist. He uses his money to seduce women, then despises them for being shallow enough to find his wealth attractive.Anne Lucas comes across as some sort of man-hater, a serial cheater. She uses her psychiatric skills to manipulate other people, including men, and she despises ones she feels are weak, like her husband, because she has no respect for the man, who obviously loves her. And I'll bet she's fed Terry a tale about how "abusive" Gideon was to her mentally, convincing Terry that Gideon is a monster.  Terry to Eva: "He uses sex to control, and you never what sort of mood you'll find him in."She uses sex to control, and you never know what sort of mood to pull stunts you'll find her in.  Terry to Eva: "He's a master manipulator and liar. Don't underestimate him. He's a twisted, dangerous man capable of just about anything."Just insert "she and her" and you've got Anne. OMG. You are so right. This woman is so twisted. She is poisoning everyone around Gideon, exacting her revenge on him. Slowly and methodically. How has she still got a licence? Doesn't her husband she how she is behaving. What will she do next? Eva will definitely be in danger, if she is allowed to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sorry just loved the eyes  The EYES have it and the sculpted LIPS of course... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hi Sscrph, Do you think that Elizabeth Vidal really knows how happy her son is with Eva? Do you think that she would even allow herself to see somethin g like that? I wonder…what do you think? What does everyone think? I think she knows it but she is in denial , she knows that soon if Eva has her way the chickens will all come home to roost so to speak!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Every time I make a comment on a photo, when it pops up again, it's grown in size. How? But h e l l I'm not complaining!!! Lol I bet your not, especially if it is a certain "Superman" LOL  Super in so many ways hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 The EYES have it and the sculpted LIPS of course... Oh what we know those lips can do of course Yum Yum, sorry is it too early to be in the gutter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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