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Can i just start of by saying that their wedding was freaking perfect! I personally wouldnt mind eloping but my mom would kill me lol.... also everytime Angus called Eva Mrs. Cross I was grinning and felt all giddy!! Ahhh

 

Me too.  I just loved how Gideon was worried about asking Eva and, of course, Eva was worried that Gideon was leaving her.

 

I also loved that Gideon said he was going to hold her there until she said yes.  When they were on the plane and she saw her luggage tags.

 

I love Angus and want to know more about him.

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What also is troubling me big time, the Russian mafia. They have obviously been watching Gideon, they will want to collect, on covering up his crime for him. I smell trouble

I was thinking that maybe that bracelet was planted by someone and the Russian Mafia has nothing to do with it. Maybe Victor tapped into a connection or what about Angus? I definitely think it was planted. that guy was just used as a scape goat.

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What also is troubling me big time, the Russian mafia. They have obviously been watching Gideon, they will want to collect, on covering up his crime for him. I smell trouble

I didnt like that, it got too melodramatic too fast with that whole russian mafia bit Lol. Someone gave him a get out of jail card but what the he11 for. I just hope that when they come around to collect their demands aren't crazy as he11.

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I didnt like that, it got too melodramatic too fast with that whole russian mafia bit Lol. Someone gave him a get out of jail card but what the he11 for. I just hope that when they come around to collect their demands aren't crazy as he11.

I'm hoping that Angus, with his MI6 connections was the reason this happened to throw the police off Gideon.

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Me too. I just loved how Gideon was worried about asking Eva and, of course, Eva was worried that Gideon was leaving her.

I also loved that Gideon said he was going to hold her there until she said yes. When they were on the plane and she saw her luggage tags.

I love Angus and want to know more about him.

And the prenup bit was strangely sweet! Yes prenups are not all romantic but he gave her all him, emotionally, and financially. For a business man to do something like that speaks volumes.

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Of all the things bothering me it was what the red head said to Eva at the party " she must be good in bed he always fix# ING her " I no it was Ann Lucas bit I hope there's no truth to it.. Also this Deanna chic does any one think there was more between her and G I mean taking her out to a bar to talk made me feel uneasy..

 

Anne Lucas makes me really uneasy as a very real threat to Eva. I think it was Anne who pushed Corrine over the edge -- someone had been prescribing psychiatric drugs to Corrine, drugs she was having a bad reaction to -- drugs that were making the already bad situation with Corrine a lot worse. Anne is a psychiatrist -- a medical doctor, not simply a therapist. A doctor who can prescribe drugs. A specialist who prescribes psychiatric drugs.

 

Dr. Terry Lucas saw Corrine with Gideon the night Corrine crashed back into his (Gideon's) life. Corrine already was in crisis by then  -- had left her husband, moved to New York, was desperately chasing Gideon. The Lucases moved in the same social circles as Gideon's family, Corrine's family -- what if Anne Lucas immediately latched on to Corrine to "help" Corrine deal with the fact Corrine's life was in crisis, all along with the agenda to destroy Corrine in order to hurt Gideon.

 

Not that I'm letting Corrine off the hook by any means. She already was manipulating Gideon even while she still lived in Europe -- so she bears responsibility for trying to "use" him as a "friend" in order to get access to him. And she opened herself up to being used by Gideon. The bad drugs didn't create the situation -- the drugs simply escalated stuff that already had been wrong to begin with, including things that Corrine clearly was at fault about.

 

Yes, Corrine was desperate -- but she wasn't psychotic. She would have been clear-minded enough to know what suicide would have done to Gideon. A part of me wonders whether the suicide attempt was simply an "attempt"  -- a desperate last ditch effort to get Gideon back, not an actual plan to end her life.

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Well, I was wrong about an important part of my biggest pet theory about what was going to happen with the murder case -- wrong about the part concerning key evidence immediately becoming  inadmissible within the two-week timeframe of Entwined (inadmissible because Detective Graves illegally questioned Eva about the actual break-up.)

 

I never saw coming the fact that someone would try to frame a gangster, a now conveniently-dead gangster. Well played, Sylvia -- well played indeed.

 

I was right about the fact Graves and her partner have NOT dropped the case. And I also was right about the fact the cops do have Eva under some sort of surveillance. Graves knew Gideon took Eva out of the country for a weekend (boy, that must have freaked out Graves if she is, in fact, still trying to build a case against Gideon.) And Eva was smart enough to figure Graves and her partner had been watching for her (Eva) to arrive home from work that day they approached her about the dead gangster.

 

So the huge question now is -- who did frame the gangster? My thought is Clancy. We know now he had Nathan under surveillance. Clancy likely knew the history of that bracelet Nathan always wore and which turned up on the gangster's corpse.) And Clancy has possible access to insider information about international crime gangs, because Clancy does have a brother in the FBI, an agency that handles organized crime.

 

For our international regulars, the Federal Bureau of Investigation is the U.S.'s national police agency, and it handles only very specific types of crimes that cross state lines, including national and international "organized crime" like the Russia Mafia. The vast majority of criminal cases, included murders, are investigated not by the "Feds" but rather by the states in which the crimes are committed, where local and/or state police departments will handle the investigation. Gideon's murder case is a matter for the state of New York, and because the killing happened in New York City, the city's police department (NYPD) is investigating.

 

Because I don't buy for an instant there was any sort of actual connection between Nathan and a supposed sex trafficker. That sicko considered Eva to be his own sexual property and never would have stood for other men being allowed to use her body.

 

As things now stand, the murder case has gone "cold" -- which is NOT the same thing as closed. It's still "unsolved." To close it, the police would need to "solve" it by definitively pinning the crime on someone -- even if that person is dead. Solving a case means arresting someone, but it's not possible to arrest a dead murder. It is, possible, however to rule "the dead guy definitely did it" and that is the equivalent of an arrest. Graves still (correctly) views the dead gangster as some sort of loose end -- not THE end. Not yet.

 

Someone has inside knowledge about what Gideon did that night. Someone entered that room after Gideon left and removed the bracelet from the corpse. Until Gideon finds out who did -- and more importantly whether that person is friend or foe -- he's still in some sort of danger. Because a foe with inside knowledge is capable of turning state's evidence against Gideon, and if that foe could provide concrete evidence against Gideon (like eyewitness testimony) it might still be possible to attempt to get a conviction against Gideon at a trial.

 

If the person is "friend" and will keep quiet, then as things now stand, there's no way a prosecutor could get a conviction. The fact that it's clearly possible someone else committed the killing (the gangster) sheds doubt on the fact Gideon had done it. Solid "reasonable doubt" is all the defense needs for a slam-dunk acquittal. And under the U.S. Constitution, if Gideon were acquitted, never, ever again could he be charged with the murder. If the prosecution loses a trial, the case if over forever. The government isn't allowed to keep going after a defendant in order to try to win a trial a second time. So if there is a very real possibility the prosecution would lose, they won't dare go to trial. They'd rather sit tight and wait for new evidence that could turn the tide and make it possible for them to win. There's no expiration on a murder investigation.

 

Is Graves still trying to nail Gideon? That I'm not so sure of anymore. All I do feel certain of is that Graves hasn't yet let the matter drop. So just like we hopefully will find out whoever tampered with evidence (the bracelet) is friend or foe, we'll find out whether Graves too is friend or foe.

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Hi LN CRONAN !

yes the tableau one dinner really infuriated me as well! (Not as much as Corinne's attempted suicide, but close).

You are probably right about Brett. While I really don't like Corinne, I like Brett so far, but I just felt that if he left at least our couple would have had  one less thing to deal with!!! (and now that Eva is going with Cary to visit Victor and Brett is there on tour something else will happen, oh dear!)

I have so many things that I want to discuss...

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Why would you think Clancy?

 

He seemed to come on pretty strong-putting a tracking device in her compact, feeling badly about not getting to Cary in time when Nathan beat him. Don't know-but I think Angus and Clancy have played a big part in the whole thing.

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He seemed to come on pretty strong-putting a tracking device in her compact, feeling badly about not getting to Cary in time when Nathan beat him. Don't know-but I think Angus and Clancy have played a big part in the whole thing.

I agree. With their connections, but I don't think Gideon would lie to Eva about the Russians , and he was concerned too. I'm sure if Angus had anything to do with it, Gideon would know. He(Gideon) is too tight with Angus to play games. I think it's a real threat. Gideon has lots of money, and connections. :(

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Hi LN CRONAN !

yes the tableau one dinner really infuriated me as well! (Not as much as Corinne's attempted suicide, but close).

You are probably right about Brett. While I really don't like Corinne, I like Brett so far, but I just felt that if he left at least our couple would have had one less thing to deal with!!! (and now that Eva is going with Cary to visit Victor and Brett is there on tour something else will happen, oh dear!)

I have so many things that I want to discuss...

Eva is being kind of a hypocrite here with the whole Brett situation. She told Gideon to cut Corinne loose yet she's still latching on to Brett. I think it was LN who said that she might be subconsciously trying to get back at Gideon. This may be so and if it is then she needs to cut him loose. I have a feeling when they go to San Diego its not going to end well.

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Dear all, here we are after such a long wait... I hope you enjoyed the book as I did!

Where to start...

To top it up we have Cary's baby, Deanna, Brett and Eva's video (it felt cramped as well that during the same night Gideon was at the hospital with Corinne (why has he been called?) he also went for a glass of wine with Deanna and then flew to California) , Victor and Monica, Monica's tracking devices, the mystery of Nathan's bracelet (well, I hope at least  that really turns out to be a good thing happened for our couple)...

This is obviously my personal opinion, I loved the book and I am really looking forward to reading the next two ones (hopefully with less waiting time). 

Looking forward to reading your comments!

The Brett twist made me angry because I can see that Eva is reverting to her old patterns.  She kissed Brett to punish Gideon and now she accepted a date and took him back to her place to continue to punish Gideon for the way he treated her the past few weeks.  I don't this she is doing this intentionally but she is still feeling some of the pain, IMO, that Gideon put her through.

 

Even after they were married and opening up to her Gideon still pushed her away at the hospital and then flew to California.  If he could text Angus he could have sent a message to his wife.  These two people are still working through their personal issues. 

 

The other people were in the first two books and I want to know more about them so there story doesn't bother me and it didn't seem too much. I see many of these ancillary characters as the people/situations that these two need to resolve to get to the right place with their lives. 

 

I didn't have a problem with Gideon meeting Deanna the way he did.  It made sense not to bring her to the apartment (like Eva did with Brett) but to keep her in public, apologize to her for being a d**k and then getting the information about the video.  If he didn't know about that and put a hold on it getting released it would devastate Eva. 

 

I love the bracelet twist.  I didn't expect that at all and I believe that it will be the way Gideon gets out from under the murder.  I think Clancy is behind it.  (I'll explain later but I have to get to work).

 

Cary & Tat are a problem.  I'm still thinking about this but I like it.

 

Victor & Monica Oh my. 

 

Corinne I hated her when we first met her and I hate her even more now.  What a terrible thing to do to Gideon!  He thinks he's cursed.  (cried)

 

I hate that we are busy today but I have to work or I can't buy books.  For me I LOVED THIS BOOK AND WANT TO READ MORE!

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Can i just start of by saying that their wedding was freaking perfect! I personally wouldnt mind eloping but my mom would kill me lol.... also everytime Angus called Eva Mrs. Cross I was grinning and felt all giddy!! Ahhh

I too thought the wedding and proposal were amazing Sylvia wrote this just perfectly for my tastes I reread it over and over because I think it is romantic!! It's funny how Eva still doesn't believe Gideon wants her for forever. When she ran into the ocean and thought he was going to break up with her when instead he dished her out to propose OMG I just can't get that part out of my head!! :) :)

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Eva is being kind of a hypocrite here with the whole Brett situation. She told Gideon to cut Corinne loose yet she's still latching on to Brett. I think it was LN who said that she might be subconsciously trying to get back at Gideon. This may be so and if it is then she needs to cut him loose. I have a feeling when they go to San Diego its not going to end well.

 

I also think her meeting up with Brett is TROUBLE. I can only hope that Cary is with her, that Dr. Travis helps to enlighten her, and last but not least she remembers she's MARRIED. BTW I loved that picturegate gave us a huge clue as to what would happen. :)

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Anne Lucas makes me really uneasy as a very real threat to Eva. I think it was Anne who pushed Corrine over the edge -- someone had been prescribing psychiatric drugs to Corrine, drugs she was having a bad reaction to -- drugs that were making the already bad situation with Corrine a lot worse. Anne is a psychiatrist -- a medical doctor, not simply a therapist. A doctor who can prescribe drugs. A specialist who prescribes psychiatric drugs.

 

Dr. Terry Lucas saw Corrine with Gideon the night Corrine crashed back into his (Gideon's) life. Corrine already was in crisis by then  -- had left her husband, moved to New York, was desperately chasing Gideon. The Lucases moved in the same social circles as Gideon's family, Corrine's family -- what if Anne Lucas immediately latched on to Corrine to "help" Corrine deal with the fact Corrine's life was in crisis, all along with the agenda to destroy Corrine in order to hurt Gideon.

 

Not that I'm letting Corrine off the hook by any means. She already was manipulating Gideon even while she still lived in Europe -- so she bears responsibility for trying to "use" him as a "friend" in order to get access to him. And she opened herself up to being used by Gideon. The bad drugs didn't create the situation -- the drugs simply escalated stuff that already had been wrong to begin with, including things that Corrine clearly was at fault about.

 

Yes, Corrine was desperate -- but she wasn't psychotic. She would have been clear-minded enough to know what suicide would have done to Gideon. A part of me wonders whether the suicide attempt was simply an "attempt"  -- a desperate last ditch effort to get Gideon back, not an actual plan to end her life.

LN this is my theory as well. I definitely think Anne helped push Corrine over the edge! I thinks she wants revenge on Gideon for dumping her.

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