Mrs.CrossXxXxX Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 First chapter will be released on may 7! I can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennpenn926 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 What if, when his mother first found out Gideon may be being abused, that there were no physical signs yet. That it was still at the initial stage where the abuser was showing Gideon how to touch himself. From what Gideon told Eva, that's how it began. The abuser said he needed to touch himself to relieve stress, and he manipulated Gideon into thinking he'd been doing it "wrong." Hand jobs aren't going to leave marks on him. What if based solely on an exam at that stage, which would fail to turn up signs of any physical trauma, Elizabeth decided he was lying and allowed the abuser to continue to see Gideon. Now the guy knows the coast is clear, because no one believes the kid. Nor had anyone been watching anyway; they'd left Gideon alone with him a lot. Now the abuser has free reign to do whatever he wants. Gideon's nightmares expressing "it hurts" coupled with his hang-ups about anal play both point to forcible penetration being done to him at some point, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennpenn926 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Thats exactly what I thought to LN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennpenn926 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Ok so here is my theory about what some others are saying in regards Corinne killed Nathan. I don't buy that for a second. 1st of all we have no reason whatsoever to believe they ever met other than the fact they were both in the Crossfire the same day. And if Nathan was in Gideon's fighting him its most likely security was called at some point and he was escorted out of the building. While Gideon didn't know Corinne was in the building why because she never made it past the lobby for all we know she was "manhandled" by a security gaurd when she refused to leave. Seeing Eva coming back from lunch she just decided to play along with mussed up looks to try and play on Eva's insecurities. The more I think about it the more I lean towards Angus as the actual killer with Gideon playing puppet master. I believe Gideon informed Stanton to make sure that Stanton and Monica had alibis for all of Thrusday night but didn't give Stanton specific details. What makes me think this is the Monday after Cary is attacked Monica and Gideon talked while Eva was with Cary. Then Monica told Eva that Gideon was going to marry her when Eva asked why she said that Monica replies because he's taking care of everything. I don't think Gideon would tell Monica anything specific other than when Eva is heart broken just play along its all apart of a plan to get rid of Nathan. Monica was probably a bit confused at first until Nathan turns up dead. I also believe if. Detective Graves is so he** bound to break Gideon's alibi because she didn't believe the whole Corinne cover story that she repeatably visit the hotel to interview employees she would have definitely interviewed Corinne because as Gideon's date she would have supposedly been with him all night and as much as Corinne wants Gideon she wouldn't have let him out of her sight the 30 minutes it took to get to and from Nathan's hotel(15 minutes walking each way) Even though Angus is an employee he and Gideon have a strong bond since Gideon's childhood so if Gideon were to trust anyone with protecting Eva through the extreme of murder its Angus. Gideon isn't stupid enough to hire a hit man he knew the cops would records of financials. Thrusday night Eva states Angus drops her off at Dr. Petersen at a quater til six but never mentions anything about how she got home. I think Sylvia left that tidbit out on purpose. Also in the excerpt eva says Gideon has proverbial blood on his hands which I found to be interesting wording why add the proverbial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennpenn926 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 By the way one of the definitions of proverbial is a person who is the embodiment or representation of a some quality or idea. Which could mean Gideon still as blood on his hands because he was the mastermind of the murder . But legally he would be charged with conspiracy to commit murder while morally he is a murderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Julie Eva Needs a hearing aid for sure! I don't know something tells me I might like Magdalena. Corrine is another story. I want Eva to kick her arse! Maybe Magdalene or Megumi can hook up with Arnoldo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiMa Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I actually like Corrine. I don't trust the other brunnette who serves as Gideon's assistant. I said this earlier on but from the onset she had been super unfriendly to Eva and especially was more or less smirking (smile that wasn't genuine) when Eva went to Gideon's office subsequent to her seeing Corrine in her "post coitus" phase etc. For some reason, she is a red flag to me but who knows..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsCrossfire Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 ***SIGHS*** Is It June Yet...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsCrossfire Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'll read everyone's opinion, give my thoughts here and there on the snapshots and snippets but I'm at my wits with trying to guess what is going on...!!! June will soon be here so that's when all the answers to everyone's questions MIGHT be answered.. I some what don't believe we are gonna get all the answers we are looking for and now with a 4th book I seriously doubt all the answers are going to be in EWY..!! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachies Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi Peachies, I read one of your earlier postings about the "Master Key" theory, I am sorry I can't remember which forum it was in. I just wanted to clarify with you that hotels; like The Four Season and The HIlton Hotels (very upscale establishments) do not use a "metal Master key". They use credit card type key cards that have a magnetic strip which contains information and access to certain areas. Whom ever uses one of hese "keycards" would just swipe said card against a pad (a device that reads the magnetic strip on the key card), the door would be unlocked and the person could gain access. A master key of sorts would allow a person to gain access to all levels of the hotel; from the service entrances, to the guest suites, to the offices and everything else in between. When a person uses this card, the information is digitally transferred to one of the hotel's computer main servers (one is on sight and the other is off sight). That way, if there is a problem with the computer system there is always another backup. It also help to ensure that the information remains intact and that no one can tamper with said information. As a matter of research; I spoke with two respresentatives from "The Four Seasons Hotel and The Hilton Hotels" and they confirmed what I just stated. They would not go into specifics about security and such (I must have sounded so strange to these people when I explained that I was doing research for a book club discussion...sigh! ), but they were nice enough to answer my questions. I chose these two hotels because they are upscale and have several global locations and as such various security requirements that would need to be taken into account (depending on the city and/or country the hotel is located in) in order to ensure that their guests have a safe and enjoyable stay. I suspect that Gideon's hotels would have been just as upscale if not more so and as such would have utilized the same type of security for his hotel properties. Each and every singal key registers their location and time when they are used. It helps the hotel staff and others keep track of the guests and employees. It ensures that everyone stays safe and it also provides documented evidence and a time log if a crime is committed at the hotel. Feel free to contact either of these hotels if you would like confirmation. Hi There! Thank you for the info and the research. I can only imagine the conversation that took place after your calls ha ha ha ! I agree, Gideons hotels are most likely upscale and equiped with high security standards in place. Especially if he is comfortable letting Eva & Carey go and stay in one without him. I was thinking of a way to enter the room in an emergency like a fire, earthquake, flooding, complete loss of power etc. In these events the key card may not be operational or functional. I'm sure there has to be some way to enter the room to clear it or rescue the guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachies Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi Peachies, I read one of your earlier postings about the "Master Key" theory, I am sorry I can't remember which forum it was in. I just wanted to clarify with you that hotels; like The Four Season and The HIlton Hotels (very upscale establishments) do not use a "metal Master key". They use credit card type key cards that have a magnetic strip which contains information and access to certain areas. Whom ever uses one of hese "keycards" would just swipe said card against a pad (a device that reads the magnetic strip on the key card), the door would be unlocked and the person could gain access. A master key of sorts would allow a person to gain access to all levels of the hotel; from the service entrances, to the guest suites, to the offices and everything else in between. When a person uses this card, the information is digitally transferred to one of the hotel's computer main servers (one is on sight and the other is off sight). That way, if there is a problem with the computer system there is always another backup. It also help to ensure that the information remains intact and that no one can tamper with said information. As a matter of research; I spoke with two respresentatives from "The Four Seasons Hotel and The Hilton Hotels" and they confirmed what I just stated. They would not go into specifics about security and such (I must have sounded so strange to these people when I explained that I was doing research for a book club discussion...sigh! ), but they were nice enough to answer my questions. I chose these two hotels because they are upscale and have several global locations and as such various security requirements that would need to be taken into account (depending on the city and/or country the hotel is located in) in order to ensure that their guests have a safe and enjoyable stay. I suspect that Gideon's hotels would have been just as upscale if not more so and as such would have utilized the same type of security for his hotel properties. Each and every singal key registers their location and time when they are used. It helps the hotel staff and others keep track of the guests and employees. It ensures that everyone stays safe and it also provides documented evidence and a time log if a crime is committed at the hotel. Feel free to contact either of these hotels if you would like confirmation. Hi There! Thank you for the info and the research. I can only imagine the conversation that took place after your calls ha ha ha ! I agree, Gideons hotels are most likely upscale and equiped with high security standards in place. Especially if he is comfortable letting Eva & Carey go and stay in one without him. I was thinking of a way to enter the room in an emergency like a fire, earthquake, flooding, complete loss of power etc. In these events the key card may not be operational or functional. I'm sure there has to be some way to enter the room to clear it or rescue the guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachies Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi Peachies, I read one of your earlier postings about the "Master Key" theory, I am sorry I can't remember which forum it was in. I just wanted to clarify with you that hotels; like The Four Season and The HIlton Hotels (very upscale establishments) do not use a "metal Master key". They use credit card type key cards that have a magnetic strip which contains information and access to certain areas. Whom ever uses one of hese "keycards" would just swipe said card against a pad (a device that reads the magnetic strip on the key card), the door would be unlocked and the person could gain access. A master key of sorts would allow a person to gain access to all levels of the hotel; from the service entrances, to the guest suites, to the offices and everything else in between. When a person uses this card, the information is digitally transferred to one of the hotel's computer main servers (one is on sight and the other is off sight). That way, if there is a problem with the computer system there is always another backup. It also help to ensure that the information remains intact and that no one can tamper with said information. As a matter of research; I spoke with two respresentatives from "The Four Seasons Hotel and The Hilton Hotels" and they confirmed what I just stated. They would not go into specifics about security and such (I must have sounded so strange to these people when I explained that I was doing research for a book club discussion...sigh! ), but they were nice enough to answer my questions. I chose these two hotels because they are upscale and have several global locations and as such various security requirements that would need to be taken into account (depending on the city and/or country the hotel is located in) in order to ensure that their guests have a safe and enjoyable stay. I suspect that Gideon's hotels would have been just as upscale if not more so and as such would have utilized the same type of security for his hotel properties. Each and every singal key registers their location and time when they are used. It helps the hotel staff and others keep track of the guests and employees. It ensures that everyone stays safe and it also provides documented evidence and a time log if a crime is committed at the hotel. Feel free to contact either of these hotels if you would like confirmation. Hi There! Thank you for the info and the research. I can only imagine the conversation that took place after your calls ha ha ha ! I agree, Gideons hotels are most likely upscale and equiped with high security standards in place. Especially if he is comfortable letting Eva & Carey go and stay in one without him. I was thinking of a way to enter the room in an emergency like a fire, earthquake, flooding, complete loss of power etc. In these events the key card may not be operational or functional. I'm sure there has to be some way to enter the room to clear it or rescue the guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachies Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi Peachies, I read one of your earlier postings about the "Master Key" theory, I am sorry I can't remember which forum it was in. I just wanted to clarify with you that hotels; like The Four Season and The HIlton Hotels (very upscale establishments) do not use a "metal Master key". They use credit card type key cards that have a magnetic strip which contains information and access to certain areas. Whom ever uses one of hese "keycards" would just swipe said card against a pad (a device that reads the magnetic strip on the key card), the door would be unlocked and the person could gain access. A master key of sorts would allow a person to gain access to all levels of the hotel; from the service entrances, to the guest suites, to the offices and everything else in between. When a person uses this card, the information is digitally transferred to one of the hotel's computer main servers (one is on sight and the other is off sight). That way, if there is a problem with the computer system there is always another backup. It also help to ensure that the information remains intact and that no one can tamper with said information. As a matter of research; I spoke with two respresentatives from "The Four Seasons Hotel and The Hilton Hotels" and they confirmed what I just stated. They would not go into specifics about security and such (I must have sounded so strange to these people when I explained that I was doing research for a book club discussion...sigh! ), but they were nice enough to answer my questions. I chose these two hotels because they are upscale and have several global locations and as such various security requirements that would need to be taken into account (depending on the city and/or country the hotel is located in) in order to ensure that their guests have a safe and enjoyable stay. I suspect that Gideon's hotels would have been just as upscale if not more so and as such would have utilized the same type of security for his hotel properties. Each and every singal key registers their location and time when they are used. It helps the hotel staff and others keep track of the guests and employees. It ensures that everyone stays safe and it also provides documented evidence and a time log if a crime is committed at the hotel. Feel free to contact either of these hotels if you would like confirmation. Hi There! Thank you for the info and the research. I can only imagine the conversation that took place after your calls ha ha ha ! I agree, Gideons hotels are most likely upscale and equiped with high security standards in place. Especially if he is comfortable letting Eva & Carey go and stay in one without him. I was thinking of a way to enter the room in an emergency like a fire, earthquake, flooding, complete loss of power etc. In these events the key card may not be operational or functional. I'm sure there has to be some way to enter the room to clear it or rescue the guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 When will we find put what Gideon whispers to Eva?! he does it often in limo in library in RYI chapter 7. Could in be the L word? Why the mystery? I also find it very inconvenient that she didn't catch conversation Gideon was having with Christopher while on library. Cary texted Eva video of Magdalena and christopher and then her phone dies! Could there be more to that video? This makes me think that Magdalena may end up being a good person at the end of series. Hi Mrs.CrossXxXxX, I was thinking about what you said about Cary video taping Christopher Jr. and Magdalene having sex in the garden and I have to say that I was a little creeped out. Is it just me or did anyone else find that act a little creepy?  Here is a guy who yes was trying to protect his friend Eva from those two individuals, but how would he justify sitting in the bushes and watching, video taping and listening to two people having sex? I am conflicted by his determination to protect his friend, but that act doesn't cast Cary in a good light.  I went back and read the passage again, and I was left with the impression that Cary stuck around for the "entire show". How would Cary justify that? How does everyone else feels about Cary video taping Magdalene and Christopher Jr? What does everyone think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Maybe Magdalene or Megumi can hook up with Arnoldo... Hi Sscrph, Hey that's a great idea! I think that Magdalene and Arnoldo might make a great couple! Who knows maybe Arnoldo can whisper sweet nothings in Magdalene's ears... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I actually like Corrine. I don't trust the other brunnette who serves as Gideon's assistant. I said this earlier on but from the onset she had been super unfriendly to Eva and especially was more or less smirking (smile that wasn't genuine) when Eva went to Gideon's office subsequent to her seeing Corrine in her "post coitus" phase etc. For some reason, she is a red flag to me but who knows..... Hi KiMa, I agree with your position on Corinne. I personally don't hate the woman. I just think that she's a little sad and definately lost as a person. I think that she lost herself in Gideon, but I have hope that maybe she can pull herself together. I don't know about "flags" or "herrings" but the addition of Corinne sure makes the book and the storyline more interesting. I also don't particularly like Gideon's assistant, but I don't have anything to go on other than her casting side-long glances at Eva...sigh! June hurry up please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennpenn926 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I gotta agree when I first read the book I thought why would Cary record them having sex it is creepy I understand him recording Christopher's and Magdelene's conversation since it was about Eva and Gideon but the sex part is weird.Also I would like to know whats on the rest of the video after Eva's phone died maybe there's more talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi There! Thank you for the info and the research. I can only imagine the conversation that took place after your calls ha ha ha ! I agree, Gideons hotels are most likely upscale and equiped with high security standards in place. Especially if he is comfortable letting Eva & Carey go and stay in one without him. I was thinking of a way to enter the room in an emergency like a fire, earthquake, flooding, complete loss of power etc. In these events the key card may not be operational or functional. I'm sure there has to be some way to enter the room to clear it or rescue the guests. Hi Peachies, I was thinking about the last time the US and Canada had an "Eastern Grid Power Outage", I know that The Four Seasons Hotel and all of other upscale hotels have their own personal generators, so if there is a city wide power-out then the hotel can still maintain services for their guests.  The last time I was at The Four Seasons Hotel for High Tea I took a good look at all of their doors on the main level as well near their main salon where High Tea is served. I didn't notice any actual manual locks. The hotel had been recently renovated and the security system upgraded. Now if the hotel does have a manual lock and metal key type system, it isn't visually obvious to the lay person. So I don't know where a manual lock and key system would be found (maybe a service entrance, or employees entrance, but nothing where the guest would be able to see).  If a person used a metal key, there wouldn't be any way to trace who would have gained access to a space, etc.  I also went upstairs to the spa for some pampering, and again the only key system I saw was the key card swipe card, nothing else. The elevators themselves also only used the key cards to allow the guest access to their use. A stranger wouldn't be able to just get on an elevator and go up to a suite without the "concierge" allowing the guest to go up to a suite (by swiping a key card across an access pad or by accompanying the guest up to the suite).  I know that elevators have somewhat of a different system in that they do use metal keys but I can't figure out where actual metal keys could be used in the hotel or in the guest suites. I suspect, that in these instances, these hotels mainly use a key card system, have generators in case of power failures, but as for the rest I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathalia Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi Mrs.CrossXxXxX, I was thinking about what you said about Cary video taping Christopher Jr. and Magdalene having sex in the garden and I have to say that I was a little creeped out. Is it just me or did anyone else find that act a little creepy?  Here is a guy who yes was trying to protect his friend Eva from those two individuals, but how would he justify sitting in the bushes and watching, video taping and listening to two people having sex? I am conflicted by his determination to protect his friend, but that act doesn't cast Cary in a good light.  I went back and read the passage again, and I was left with the impression that Cary stuck around for the "entire show". How would Cary justify that? How does everyone else feels about Cary video taping Magdalene and Christopher Jr? What does everyone think? Hi Gigi, I think he was in the bushes b/c he was with a 'familiar pop princess'. When Eva and Gideon were looking for him when they re-entered the party, she saw him come out of the maze-I think?- w/ the pop star on his arm. So maybe he was messing around w/ her in there, and saw them, couldn't move, heard what they were talking about and decided to record it. He prob just wanted to catch what they were saying, but got a lot more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi Peachies, I just wanted to add that the Fire Department also has "Master Metal Keys" to all city elevators, which they are required and mandated to have in case of emergencies (like the ones you mentioned previously). I also know that they have "master keys" to the Universities and the buildings on their campuses (that is standard practice in Canada and I would suspect would also apply to the US) again for the same reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Ok so here is my theory about what some others are saying in regards Corinne killed Nathan. I don't buy that for a second. 1st of all we have no reason whatsoever to believe they ever met other than the fact they were both in the Crossfire the same day. And if Nathan was in Gideon's fighting him its most likely security was called at some point and he was escorted out of the building. While Gideon didn't know Corinne was in the building why because she never made it past the lobby for all we know she was "manhandled" by a security gaurd when she refused to leave. Seeing Eva coming back from lunch she just decided to play along with mussed up looks to try and play on Eva's insecurities. The more I think about it the more I lean towards Angus as the actual killer with Gideon playing puppet master. I believe Gideon informed Stanton to make sure that Stanton and Monica had alibis for all of Thrusday night but didn't give Stanton specific details. What makes me think this is the Monday after Cary is attacked Monica and Gideon talked while Eva was with Cary. Then Monica told Eva that Gideon was going to marry her when Eva asked why she said that Monica replies because he's taking care of everything. I don't think Gideon would tell Monica anything specific other than when Eva is heart broken just play along its all apart of a plan to get rid of Nathan. Monica was probably a bit confused at first until Nathan turns up dead. I also believe if. Detective Graves is so he** bound to break Gideon's alibi because she didn't believe the whole Corinne cover story that she repeatably visit the hotel to interview employees she would have definitely interviewed Corinne because as Gideon's date she would have supposedly been with him all night and as much as Corinne wants Gideon she wouldn't have let him out of her sight the 30 minutes it took to get to and from Nathan's hotel(15 minutes walking each way) Even though Angus is an employee he and Gideon have a strong bond since Gideon's childhood so if Gideon were to trust anyone with protecting Eva through the extreme of murder its Angus. Gideon isn't stupid enough to hire a hit man he knew the cops would records of financials. Thrusday night Eva states Angus drops her off at Dr. Petersen at a quater til six but never mentions anything about how she got home. I think Sylvia left that tidbit out on purpose. Also in the excerpt eva says Gideon has proverbial blood on his hands which I found to be interesting wording why add the proverbial.  Hi Jennpenn926, Welcome to the forum!  I agree with the points you made about Corinne and Nathan. I don’t think that Corinne killed Nathan personally because as a reader I couldn’t find a single shred or piece of proof that these two would have ever encountered one another. I know that we have theorized everything up the wazoo here so I do suppose that on some level it could be possible that Corinne and Nathan had contact, but we the readers haven’t been made privy to that information. I agree and also believe that Gideon would have had Nathan escorted out of the building. Not only did Nathan show up to blackmail Gideon, but he also had horrible videos and photos of him brutally raping and torturing Eva (that is my theory as to why Gideon or anyone else would have ever entertained the notion of a phone call, let alone a meeting from Nathan. I also believe that Gideon and Nathan got into a fight (yes more than one punch, several body blows to Nathan which would have explained Gideon’s appearance; sweating skin, flushing skin, like he had been exerting himself with physical activity). I also agree that Gideon probably contacted security and had Nathan escorted out of the building not only for Nathan’s sake (i.e. as in Gideon could have killed him after viewing all that disgusting blackmail material), but most importantly so that Nathan wouldn’t have had any possibility of running into Eva. At the end of the day, Gideon’s sole focus was always on Eva. I don’t know if I see Angus as the killer because I couldn’t see where or how Angus could have any incentive to kill Nathan. Angus’s sole responsibility was guarding and protecting Gideon (and Eva by proxy if they were together), but I just couldn’t see Angus willingly committing a murder because his boss asked him to help. It crosses a barrier for me and I don’t know if a rational human being would willingly go along with that kind of request (but to be fair to all the theories, it could be a possibility). I just don’t see it. I could however see Monica and therefore Stanton being a part of the murder. Monica had the most incentive from my perspective. She was Eva’s mother and would have witnessed firsthand at how her daughter suffered at the hands of a madman. I also think that Monica bears a lot of responsibility for neglecting her daughter for so many years and by not paying attention to what was going on in her home during the years that Eva was being raped. I could also see Monica having to suffer watching horrendous videos and seeing disgusting photos of her daughter being brutalized and repeatedly raped all the while Nathan sat there enjoying himself. I could see Monica snapping mentally and then begin to plan the murder of the man who had tortured and brutally repeatedly raped her daughter for all those years. I think that Stanton would have involved himself because he loves Monica so much. I think that they beat Gideon and his “band of merry murderers†to the punch. I don’t know what Gideon and Monica talked about on the Monday after Cary was attacked. The jury is still out on that for me. Again what you theorized could be possible. I think that Detective Graves is sucking lemons and she knows it. Sister has bubkiss and she knows that too!!   All of her theories and suspicions have gotten her nowhere. You make a really interesting point about Corinne’s obsession with Gideon and not letting him out of her sight for that 30minutes it would have taken to commit the murder. Good point! I could believe that Corinne would have been so obsessed with Gideon that she wouldn’t have left him alone for that long or let him out of her sight for that length of time. You also make a really interesting point about Sylvia’s mention of Gideon having proverbial blood on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Gideon says that saying "I love you" is the wrong words about how he feels for Eva. What if he is saying his version of his feelings for her every time he whispers? He does it on at least 3 occasions, throughout both books. I'm sure Sylvia said we would find out in EWY. Getting so excited!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Gideon says that saying "I love you" is the wrong words about how he feels for Eva. What if he is saying his version of his feelings for her every time he whispers? He does it on at least 3 occasions, throughout both books. I'm sure Sylvia said we would find out in EWY. Getting so excited!! Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiMa Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I gotta agree when I first read the book I thought why would Cary record them having sex it is creepy I understand him recording Christopher's and Magdelene's conversation since it was about Eva and Gideon but the sex part is weird.Also I would like to know whats on the rest of the video after Eva's phone died maybe there's more talking. Do keep in mind though that he was recording because Magdelene was actually talking about Gideon and Eva the whole time and I don't even think she was fully conscious that Christopher took things to the other level re: sex I think for Christopher it was about just screwing her and him being evil and that throughout the entire exchange she continued to talk about Gideon and Eva which will prompt Cary to continuing recording the exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiMa Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi KiMa, I agree with your position on Corinne. I personally don't hate the woman. I just think that she's a little sad and definately lost as a person. I think that she lost herself in Gideon, but I have hope that maybe she can pull herself together. I don't know about "flags" or "herrings" but the addition of Corinne sure makes the book and the storyline more interesting. I also don't particularly like Gideon's assistant, but I don't have anything to go on other than her casting side-long glances at Eva...sigh! June hurry up please! She was talking about Eva and Gideon the whole time, even while Christopher was screwing her. That's why it was disgusting and heart-wrenching for Gideon and Eva, and Even Cary to watch and anyone for that matter. Throughout the entire exec hands you have her espousing her feelings about Gideon and Eva on the one hand and on the other a vicious and vengeful individual just taking his own pleasure even her pain was a source of pleasure for him. At least that's my take on things so Cary video tapping the each age didn't bother me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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