julie54 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Maybe EWY will end with Cary entering rehab we have to remember it has only been a period of 2 weeks so he must really been hitting the pills hard for this to occur at this point... I had to take some pain relief pills for a heart op. I could only take them for 3 days as they are highly addictive. From his beating to EWY I think it's about 5-6 weeks. It's possible I reckon. But as you say 4th June will reveal all. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Maybe EWY will end with Cary entering rehab we have to remember it has only been a period of 2 weeks so he must really been hitting the pills hard for this to occur at this point...  When he first was injured, he would have been put on strong doses of pain meds.  But now, weeks later, his physical recovery should be far enough along that he can start tapering off the dose and come off the medication.  That's the crisis point for drug addicts who are put into a medical position (injuries, surgery) where they are forced to take pain medication. Once it becomes no longer medically necessary to take the drugs, like all patients, the addicts are supposed to stop.  The complication comes if they continue to do so anyway. Then they start abusing the drug by taking increasing amounts.  Oxycontin is an incredibly addictive drug, so things could get ugly fast. Especially with someone who also drinks.  We know Cary does love to drink. The very first line of the Crossfire series involves him telling Eva they should head to a bar to celebrate.  Cary's partying continues to be a theme in both books.  One of the biggest themes in the book -- the whole brunette fixation, what does it mean? -- came up in chapter one of Bared. Our first hint was the brunette in the Crossfire lobby trying to drag Gideon's attention away from Eva.  What if Cary's propensity to party, which also comes up in Bared chapter one, also turns out to be our first red flag of something that will become major.  I'm very scared for poor Cary -- his life still in literal danger because of Nathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Agree. I was thinking, if Eva starts staying out suddenly over night regularly, wouldn't Cary who is laid up question that? What will Eva tell him to explain away her absence. Bearing in mind they tell each other everything.  Good question.  Plus, how is she going to explain Gideon having been in her room the first night of Entwined? Because Cary overheard them the last time Gideon was in there. Perhaps Cary will sleep through it this time -- sleep because he's passed out from narcotics he's started abusing?  She's definitely not going to tell him the real truth about why she's back with Gideon. And if Cary thinks the situation is simply Gideon cheating on Corrine by sneaking around to f*** Eva, then things could get ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Good question.  Plus, how is she going to explain Gideon having been in her room the first night of Entwined? Because Cary overheard them the last time Gideon was in there. Perhaps Cary will sleep through it this time -- sleep because he's passed out from narcotics he's started abusing?  She's definitely not going to tell him the real truth about why she's back with Gideon. And if Cary thinks the situation is simply Gideon cheating on Corrine by sneaking around to f*** Eva, then things could get ugly. This time in a week. All will be revealed. Will be asleep after my all nighter with a kindle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsCrossfire Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 What if it not Cary.? Let's not forget Gideon takes prescription pills also.!? (Just Sayin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 What if it not Cary.? Let's not forget Gideon takes prescription pills also.!? (Just Sayin) Good point. It could get too much for Gideon. Sylvia said there would be ramifications to his actions, internally as well as externally. No We have seen a tender, sensitive side to Gideon, where Eva's concerned. I think he's a scared little boy really, beneath that tough exterior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Agree. I was thinking, if Eva starts staying out suddenly over night regularly, wouldn't Cary who is laid up question that? What will Eva tell him to explain away her absence. Bearing in mind they tell each other everything. Maybe GidEva will meet after work for several hours and she will still go back to Cary every night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Maybe GidEva will meet after work for several hours and she will still go back to Cary every night... Most likely. Unless Tatiana comes around wearing her nurses outfit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenolyn Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 thanks again LN for the info, I never thought of it like that and I forgot about Raul LOL, guess that is because he is not such a prominent character as Angus is  I never would have that about it like this either! Every time I seem to think something might be figured out, I always manage to leave something out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabri Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Agree. I was thinking, if Eva starts staying out suddenly over night regularly, wouldn't Cary who is laid up question that? What will Eva tell him to explain away her absence. Bearing in mind they tell each other everything. They don't, actually. Eva didn't tell Cary the whole truth about the Vegas trip arrangement, and Cary didn't tell Eva about Six Ninth lead singer being Brett. These "omissions" may be trifling but show they sure can keep secrets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 What if it not Cary.? Let's not forget Gideon takes prescription pills also.!? (Just Sayin)  Excellent point, Mrs. C. -- Gideon's treatment for the atypical sexual parasomnia involves a combination of sleep medication plus therapy to address the underlying issues.  As long as Gideon and Eva need to keep their relationship secret -- so that the cops cannot gather any more evidence pointing to Gideon having motive -- they cannot resume couples' therapy. Perhaps part of the resolutions in the book involve Gideon and Eva resuming treatment as a couple -- and especially Gideon resuming individual treatment for his trauma issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 They don't, actually. Eva didn't tell Cary the whole truth about the Vegas trip arrangement, and Cary didn't tell Eva about Six Ninth lead singer being Brett. These "omissions" may be trifling but show they sure can keep secrets! Hi Gabri That is very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabri Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 What if the pills are Viagra, the blue pills? Can you imagine an exhausted Gedeon giving up his vitamins (those Cary asks Eva about in Chap. 15) and turning to something "stronger" instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013  Yep, Viagra pills are blue too ^^^^^  Snapshot #21 could very well be an inside joke about blue pills instead of something more ominous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 What if the pills are Viagra, the blue pills? Can you imagine an exhausted Gedeon giving up his vitamins (those Cary asks Eva about in Chap. 15) and turning to something "stronger" instead? From what we've seen so far I seriously doubt Gideon needs Viagra!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirsten Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Yep, Viagra pills are blue too ^^^^^ Snapshot #21 could very well be an inside joke about blue pills instead of something more ominous. Maybe Stanton's having a hard time keeping up with his trophy wife. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanmarie Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Those pills do look like Viagra..What if they are Victors, reality is at his age he may need them LOL ...I don't think they are Gideons, but I've always wondered how he keeps going and going one after the other like the energizer bunny!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm just getting giddy with anticipation !!! One week from today we will be all knowing ... I don't really give a shi$ what those blue pills are !!! LOL...OMG no more snapshots....June 4th!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jls1216 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I can't image Gideon getting hooked on any kind of drugs, he is too much of a control freak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I can't image Gideon getting hooked on any kind of drugs, he is too much of a control freak. Would he have to take them everyday, or just when he sleeps with Eva for her safety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I don't see Gideon as having an addictive personality except for Eva. It is possible that someone "slips" Eva or Gideon something when they are out at the club.  I can see Cary having issues with his meds but he was cautious about taking the morphine in the hospital. I suspect he would limit his pain meds at home too. Even if he did need to withdrawal I don't see him needing rehab to deal with the problem maybe some outpatient therapy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013  I don't think these pills are blue. I think they are taking on the hue of the blue background but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm just getting giddy with anticipation !!! One week from today we will be all knowing ... I don't really give a shi$ what those blue pills are !!! LOL...OMG no more snapshots....June 4th!!  Just one more snapshot to go -- # 22 on Friday.  Six more of the Penguin countdown pictures to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I can't image Gideon getting hooked on any kind of drugs, he is too much of a control freak.   Would he have to take them everyday, or just when he sleeps with Eva for her safety?  My theory is that Dr. Petersen prescribed the sleeping pills to see whether they would be enough to Gideon from being able to act out (i.e. turn aggressive) in his sleep, thereby giving the breathing room needed for the therapy to start working on the underlying issues.  The medication didn't work, because Gideon attacked Eva a second time. After that, Dr. Petersen recommended to Gideon that he not sleep in the same bed as Eva, advice that Gideon decided to take.  I think, though, that Gideon might be willing to risk sleeping in the same bed as Eva again once she knows what's behind the nightmares (and so he no longer needs to fear what he might say or do while asleep, fearing something that slips out would drive Eva off.)  Because Eva is not helpless. The only time she's actually used her Krav Maga skills was the second time Gideon attacked her (Cary had intervened the first time.)  If she can convinced Gideon that ....  Now that he's shared his deep secrets and knows she's not going to leave, he need no longer fear what he might say in his sleep Because she has the physical skills to defend herself against anything he might do in his sleep, he does not need to fear victimizing her.   .... then I think she can convince him it's safe for him to share a bed with her -- and with that, share a home with her, share a life with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 My theory is that Dr. Petersen prescribed the sleeping pills to see whether they would be enough to Gideon from being able to act out (i.e. turn aggressive) in his sleep, thereby giving the breathing room needed for the therapy to start working on the underlying issues. The medication didn't work, because Gideon attacked Eva a second time. After that, Dr. Petersen recommended to Gideon that he not sleep in the same bed as Eva, advice that Gideon decided to take. I think, though, that Gideon might be willing to risk sleeping in the same bed as Eva again once she knows what's behind the nightmares (and so he no longer needs to fear what he might say or do while asleep, fearing something that slips out would drive Eva off.) Because Eva is not helpless. The only time she's actually used her Krav Maga skills was the second time Gideon attacked her (Cary had intervened the first time.) If she can convinced Gideon that .... Now that he's shared his deep secrets and knows she's not going to leave, he need no longer fear what he might say in his sleepBecause she has the physical skills to defend herself against anything he might do in his sleep, he does not need to fear victimizing her. .... then I think she can convince him it's safe for him to share a bed with her -- and with that, share a home with her, share a life with her.When he had a stressful evening/day with Eva, that's when his parasomnia seemed to rear it's ugly head. Stress seems to be a trigger for Gideon. First time was after the gym and f*ckpad fiasco Second he had been talking about where he used to have consensual sex and college Third time was Monica spotting Nathan outside Crossfire and Eva wanting to talk about his past Liking that last bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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