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Yes I do think Eva truly believes she is too young to be married but she knows herself and that she is totally in love with Gideon so I think she is going to try and make everyone happy like she always does but at the same time I think she will be surprised that she will actually thrive in the marriage and come to realize that the security and the vows and of course Gideon committed to her in EVERY way is exactly what she needed in her life. I think that is what the next two books will be about the two of them finding their way as a couple GROWING TOGETHER and finally gaining that confidence of a stable, loving relationship.

 

I agree with you and I think she realizes there will never be anyone else for her but Gideon! 

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He's definitely got a taste for some elements of BDSM.I'm convinced that at one point in their relationship all those years ago, Corrine wore a collar. She did a weird stroking on her throat, like she was touching a necklace that used to be there, the night she met Eva. At the time, she was feeding Eva lines about how Gideon was so possessive it frightened her when she was younger. Eva thought it was strange. So do I.The question is - whose idea was the collar. Corrine did the pursuing and the seducing. Was she the one encouraging Gideon's need for control by introducing BDSM elements? As part of her desperation to hold onto him.Gideon told Eva the dealbreaker for Corrine had been his refusal to spend overnights with her. Corrine's version of the dealbreaker -- the tale she fed Eva anyway -- was that Gideon's possessiveness scared her at the time. My own theory was that Corrine finally figured out their sex life was just f***** in a hotel room, probably some kinky stuff (collar? toys? restraints?) It was NOT making love.
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I agree also.  I think they both needed to be married for so many reasons but I really want to know what vows were said.  This love is just too beautiful for words.

I too want to know what vows they said. It was so private that WE don't even know! LoL. I think Eva believes beyond a doubt that she can't function without Gideon and that he loves her 'quirks' as her mom put it and all. AND visa versa. BUT it all happened so fast for her! That's part of her apprehension. AND I'm sure she knows that everyone around her will tell her that, not knowing what we know about their relationship. Heck I dated my husband 3 years, went away and he surprised me into a wedding and I was scared and shy to tell anyone. It took me a while. Silly I know. I LOVE HOW THIS IS UNFOLDING FOR THEM. LOVE.

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I have had a hard time finding an actor who I'd like to play Gideon, LOL.. I have this perfect, gorgeous man with a body to die for, with beautiful black hair and the most amazing blue eyes you've ever seen, in my mind! Oh and what he does for a suit...... So I just can't think of anyone to fits the man in my mind. Henry is definitely handsome but for me he has a more boy next door good looks. And Matt is sexy and has beautiful blue eyes but he prefers men in real life, so for me that is buzzy kill. Kind of hard for me to place him as our virile Gideon, but he would be perfect to play Cary. Because Cary is really good looking too. SO I was doing some research online and have a few links for you ladies to look at and see if you see anyone who is suitable to play our Sexy as He11 Gideon Cross..... Maybe Chase Crawford, with the right hair style?  Ian Somerhadler has pretty blue eyes but I'm not sure he is sexy and good looking enough. Hopefully there is some no name gorgeous actor out there who would be perfect and just think what playing Gideon Cross would do for his career. Let me know what you all think..

 

http://www.imdb.com/list/HE_KQhZsPk4/

 

 

http://www.listal.com/list/sweet-smiles

 

 

http://www.imdb.com/list/gP0QYR6Iyqs/

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I have had a hard time finding an actor who I'd like to play Gideon, LOL.. I have this perfect, gorgeous man with a body to die for, with beautiful black hair and the most amazing blue eyes you've ever seen, in my mind! Oh and what he does for a suit...... So I just can't think of anyone to fits the man in my mind. Henry is definitely handsome but for me he has a more boy next door good looks. And Matt is sexy and has beautiful blue eyes but he prefers men in real life, so for me that is buzzy kill. Kind of hard for me to place him as our virile Gideon, but he would be perfect to play Cary. Because Cary is really good looking too. SO I was doing some research online and have a few links for you ladies to look at and see if you see anyone who is suitable to play our Sexy as He11 Gideon Cross..... Maybe Chase Crawford, with the right hair style?  Ian Somerhadler has pretty blue eyes but I'm not sure he is sexy and good looking enough. Hopefully there is some no name gorgeous actor out there who would be perfect and just think what playing Gideon Cross would do for his career. Let me know what you all think..

 

http://www.imdb.com/list/HE_KQhZsPk4/

 

 

http://www.listal.com/list/sweet-smiles

 

 

http://www.imdb.com/list/gP0QYR6Iyqs/

The links are awesome Shan!

I feel like Ian and Chase don't have the build and sense of presence that Gideon would have. Idk maybe I'm biased towards Henry (hence my avatar pic lol) I'm slowly letting him go as far as playing the part as Gideon.

And I agree with you in regards to Matt.

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Hi Gigi

The thing is. We don't know much about Monica's past.

Could she have been desperate for money being a single person. Her family had cut her off. What sort of education had she had? What career opportunities did she have, with a child in tow? What contact if any did she have with Victor? How did she support herself and Eva? Desperate people do desperate things.

I couldn't see her working at a deli or corner shop!! She was a classy lady, that's why I thought she might have become a high class escort. Where she finally met Barker at a function. He was lonely, as was she. They both had a child. It doesn't sound like they loved each other, just a marriage of convenience. He was away a lot. She spent his money. The rest is history!

  

Hi Julie,

I read your post and you are absolutely correct.  We have no idea what Monica’s past was like.  I think for me, it is hard for me to make leap that Monica was a “high class escort†because I think that Monica would have had more standards than that.

 

Maybe Monica scrubbed toilets for a living, or cleaned homes, or waitressed or whatever other jobs she may have found beneath her upbringing or her status in society.  Could it be that Monica had to frequent pawn shops to sell family jewelry that may have been near and dear to her heart?  Who knows?  I just don’t see Monica spreading her legs for money.  I think that maybe Monica did lots of things that she found humiliating and degrading because of the way she was raised.  Maybe Monica was humiliated by people whom she used to call friends.  Maybe they made fun of her because she was unmarried and pregnant and without money or a family.  I could see that as being very humiliating for a woman of Monica’s age. 

 

I don’t know if Monica is the kind of woman who could sell her body for money.  Somehow it may be a step too far for.  It takes a special breed of woman (by life or by circumstance) that could think that the only way that she would be able to survive is to sleep with men.  It is that kind of woman that would have no concept either internally or externally that would think that was her only option in life.  I don’t know that Monica was that uneducated (she must have received some sort of scholastic education and/or finishing school as a child of privilege) or not schooled in life.   

 

Something else that you said, got me to thinking that men don’t often marry their hookers (yes yes I know we call them high class escorts, wink, wink) but anyway you cut it, these are working girls.  Working in an industry where the vag*** is for sale.  Monica seems to be of the generation that there are women you date and women that you marry. 

 

Escorts sell the fantasy of  se*.  They offer every dirty fantasy that men desire at an extremely high cost.  Men come to these women for the fantasies that they don’t dare ask for from their wives (fantasy and not reality).  Men keep mistresses because they want to maintain their illusions.  They want to be the powerful men in bed (even though they may suck at it with their own wives).  Mistresses have to say, “that’s ok baby, I love men with small pen****, or that’s ok baby, I don’t mind that you can’t get it upâ€, etc. 

 

Monica doesn’t seem to be able to tolerate any inconveniences much less confrontations of any sort.  So how would she be able to tolerate being used sexually by men without her going bonkers!  I think that she absolutely offers the naughty bits in order to land a husband, but not for the sake of a cash transaction. 

 

You are again correct.  We don’t know how Victor factored into this scenario. It will be interesting to see what role, if any, he may have played.  I think that I will give Monica the benefit of the doubt on this one.  She absolutely stinks as a mother (no doubt there) and may never be able to put her daughter above her own needs (that would be incredibly sad) but I will wait to hear that from Sylvia’s lips (as the saying goes).  Your theory is interesting and it certainly makes the discussion really interesting.  Thanks for the discussion.   :)

 

P.S.  Classy ladies don’t sleep with men for money.  Wh*res sleep with men for money.  Classy ladies sell their jewelry in order to survive.  They scrub toilets and wait tables. They clean houses and take jobs as domestics in order to put food on the table for themselves and their children.  They take every other option in life before they degrade themselves and set that standard for their children.

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The links are awesome Shan!

I feel like Ian and Chase don't have the build and sense of presence that Gideon would have. Idk maybe I'm biased towards Henry (hence my avatar pic lol) I'm slowly letting him go as far as playing the part as Gideon.

And I agree with you in regards to Matt.

 

I know, Chase is handsome but I wonder if he maybe to young as well.... I don't know, hopefully who ever they choose, he will fulfill all of our fantasies.    ;)

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I think corinne should get a life and leave Gideon and Eva lone so they can get on with their own life's together it is corinne who ran after Gideon not the other way round she is the one who took the pills yes Gideon used corinne but he done it to keep Eva safe yes it was bad of Gideon to have used corinne but Gideon did tell corinne that he only wanted to be friends so I think everyone should back of Gideon and Eva. I mean the people in the book Sylvia did say that that the rest of the two book would be from Gideon point of view I hate gideons mother and Christopher what a prat he is I really hate deanna Johnson she needs a kicking .i really love Angus he so sweet .i loved the wedding I cried when I read that I was so happy for them .i think deanna is up to something I think she will try and bed Gideon I hope he does not that will really up set Eva I would love to know what he said to deanna when he left the dinner on the Thursday

Hi Tbidwell, 

Welcome to the fourm!  I hope you enjoy yourself. :)

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As I was reading through the posts just thought that Eva didn't have anyone to take a picture of her wedding.  Even though they are going to have a big blow out, don't you think she would want a picture to remember the private event?

I hope they have a picture. I have a feeling that Gideon might have one on his phone. We might see it in the paper soon!

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Morning GiGi,

 

Your neighbor is correct on all accounts. This is certainly not justifiable homicide since it was most definitely premeditated. While I can clearly see that Nathan was a danger to Eva's well being, Gideon would not be able to use a justifiable homicide defense.

Hi Kirsten, 

From the bottom of my heart thank you!!  I am so glad that Canada and the US aren't that different in the law.  I am also very grateful that you, a lady with expertise in this field have also chimed in on this subject.  

 

I agree with you completely, Nathan was despicable and a clear danger to Eva.  There has never been question about that.  I am just so glad that the "Justifiable Homicide" arguement can finally be laid to rest.  You have the expertise and the knowledge about a subject like this and I can't even begin to tell you how invaluable it is to this forum.  Thank you. :)   :)   :)   

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I also would like to know how Gideon could bring himself to look at those videos... Just knowing the depth of his love for Eva I just can't see Gideon putting himself through that because I think it would have broken him... :(

Hi Sscrph, 

Could it be that Gideon specifically saw those videos of Eva being tortured and raped, in order for Gideon to; justify to himself, that planning the murder of Nathan, was necessary.  Gideon would have seen first-hand evidence of how sick and malicious and what a danger to Eva Nathan was.   

 

Maybe watching those videos helped Gideon to make up his mind about how to deal with Nathan.  If he had any reservations before deciding to kill Nathan, maybe watching those videos eliminated any lingering doubts for Gideon.  What do you think? 

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HI Mam2e,

As strange as it may seem, I don’t think that Gideon would want to burden Angus with that kind of secret.  I think that Angus has done so much for Gideon in childhood and adulthood that I could see him not wanting to make Angus an accessory after the fact (i.e. Gideon wouldn’t want to tell Angus about his crimes and put him in the position where he could be prosecuted if the case ever went to trial).  I think Gideon is just in an impossible situation.  He doesn’t really have anyone that he can talk to openly and freely.  Maybe with time and healing he might be able to unburden himself to Eva but that would depend on Eva’s state of mind and her ability to bear all the details of the murder.  Thus far, I don’t think that Eva would be able to handle it.  What do you think?

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I'm leaving for vacation ladies. I hope to be able to connect to the internet from there, but if not I am sure Sheens or Inside will help with our Gideon fixes.

Hi Kirsten, 

I hope you have a wonderful vacation!  Hurry back lady!!  You will be sorely missed!!!   :)

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OK...here's what's been bugging me most about EIY. I'm curious if anyone else caught this too.

 

Nathan's bracelet ended up on a Russian mobsters wrist and they know he was killed by another mafia guy because he was under surveillance... Soooo....being under surveillance, wouldn't they know all of the dead mobsters moves that could tie him him to the bracelet? The police should have SOME type of lead as to where, when or how he got the bracelet, right? You don't have a guy under surveillance and then not have a clue what he's been up to or who he's been seen with.

 

Was anyone else puzzled by this?

 

It could be Clancy (or someone he arranged), but I also thought of Christopher. I don't know if he has the connections, but we've already seen him act pretty ruthless and he would definitely be sleazy enough to try to cash in with Gideon...and cash in BIG. And he was awfully quiet during EIY.

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Regardless of whatever faith he is, Gideon will NEVER confess what he did to anyone...if he was smart and he is.

Hi Sscrph, 

I agree completely.  I don't think that Gideon would ever say anything to anyone (with exception of Eva) about what he did.  He will always have to live with that burden.  I think that is sad.   

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