Sharonm745 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Victor  read the reports so I am guessing he knows that Gideon was a suspect.  As for Graves,  she knows it was Gideon but can't prove it. But the bracelet has her questioning again. Her comment "I hate lose ends" She probably hates not know how that bracelet ended up where it did. The case is cold as far as the police are concerned.    I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up with Victor lol  I don't want Victor to end up with Shelly. That would put Victor in a bad position keeping secrets from either his daughter or his wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeena Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 The more I think about I think Eva is in awe and hardly believes she is married. I occurred to me that maybe she is still trying to preserve that "intimate and deeply personal" feeling she had at the ceremony.   I agree. Eva is afraid but she knows deep down that marrying Gideon is what they both need, not only for the security but also to heal.   I agree she's processing and want's to keep the personal moment to herself until she's come to terms with it. After all, it was incredibly spur of the moment. They talked about marriage, but I'm sure she never expected to be proposed to and married within 24 hours.  I also think she's trying to deal with the whole "mogul's wife" thing that comes with this new territory. She mentioned it several times...once even before they were married, walking through the resort, and then several times after the marriage. She literally mentioned 'mogul's wife' at one point, but even just the way she and gideon abstained in the limo, despite them both looking forward to it, so she wouldn't look 'less than perfect' for the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs X Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 On that note, do you think Eva and Cary have a housekeeper?  Maybe but probably not,  Gideon had one for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs X Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Hi Mrs X, Fantastic!  I have family in Australia. Very beautiful country! Did you get a chance to go to one of Sylvia's book signings?   No   she was on the east coast and I live on the west.  I would have gone for sure. I  was told about the book "Bared to you"  from a friend in the US.  FS   was well known here and we were discussing it and she  mentioned this book to me. That was  last year and I am guessing Sylvia is  better known here now for her CF series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeena Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Eva gives Gideon a hard time about not disclosing facts to her ie Ian suing Gideon, but she kept from Gideon for nearly a week that she and Cary were taking off to San Diego. She should practice what she preaches.   hahaha! good point! They've both got work to do.  Gideon more than her though, I think. He disappeared to California without telling her...after they were married! He said he was busy the whole time...and I'm sure he was...but, REALLY? Not even time for a 2 minute call or text message???  I wonder if he was unintentionally (and completely unconsciously) punishing her for the extra drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs X Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 I don't want Victor to end up with Shelly. That would put Victor in a bad position keeping secrets from either his daughter or his wife.   They  both want him happy.   I can't see Monica leaving Stanton.  Wouldn't surprise me if Shelly was abused either  adding to her understanding of the situation maybe.  Oh there could be so many twists in this  story line.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfire Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 GiGi  You are probably right. That is probably what Gideon whispered in Deanna's ear at the dinner...contact so and so in the Caribbean and you will find the marriage license & picture. You have 48 hours. I agree! I do think that was why Gideon was talking to Deanna at that event. These photos will also hit the news just as Eva arrives in San Diego. Brett will hopefully get the message. i just hope that Gideon lets Eva know , so that she can let her dad know. I wouldn't want him to have to read this. Eva should be the one to let him know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 It was said that Monica married Barker when Eva was 4 years old and Nathan was two years older. Where did it say that? I knew Nathan was two years older. That's what Eva told Gideon when she was telling him about her abuse. I don't remember the 4 year old bit though. Be good if you could tell me page no. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs X Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 hahaha! good point! They've both got work to do.  Gideon more than her though, I think. He disappeared to California without telling her...after they were married! He said he was busy the whole time...and I'm sure he was...but, REALLY? Not even time for a 2 minute call or text message???  I wonder if he was unintentionally (and completely unconsciously) punishing her for the extra drama.   He covered this action by saying there  will be times that she needs to trust him.    And being married helps her to feel more secure when he does things like this.  He may not have wanted anyone to follow his trail to CA and had to know for sure if the tape existed before mentioning it to Eva.   Who thinks he watched the whole video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 hahaha! good point! They've both got work to do.  Gideon more than her though, I think. He disappeared to California without telling her...after they were married! He said he was busy the whole time...and I'm sure he was...but, REALLY? Not even time for a 2 minute call or text message???  I wonder if he was unintentionally (and completely unconsciously) punishing her for the extra drama. He actually regressed back to his old ways at this point. When he is doing something to protect Eva he shuts her out. She has come to realise this now. Stupid man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Victor  read the reports so I am guessing he knows that Gideon was a suspect.  As for Graves,  she knows it was Gideon but can't prove it. But the bracelet has her questioning again. Her comment "I hate lose ends" She probably hates not know how that bracelet ended up where it did. The case is cold as far as the police are concerned.    I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up with Victor lol  HI Mrs. X!! X-cellent we have a Down Under addition to the forum. Truly going global.  There's two set of court/police files involving Nathan, the old ones from ten years ago where he's a rapist and Eva is the victim, and brand new ones that are about four weeks old where he is the murder victim.  We know Victor definitely read the old files involving the investigation and ultimately the conviction of Nathan, including that he was locked up in a psychiatric facility instead of jail. Victor told Eva he read those. My suspicion is he got the copies from Detective Shelley Graves and/or her partner, but he could have tracked them down by other means. Because Nathan was arrested, tried and convicted, there's a whole set of court records.  I have a sneaking suspicion he's been shown select parts of the NYPD investigation file into the murder of Nathan. Because no one has been arrested yet (and thus there's no court records yet) those files are extremely confidential. At this point, the only place he could get any copies of anything in there would be either leaks from the detectives or from the prosecutor they're reporting to. Because Gideon hasn't been arrested, his defense lawyers aren't entitled to them -- and besides, Gideon would be the last person wanting Victor to know about the rapes, much less the truth about the murder.  Victor knows something though -- either through the detectives or by connecting the dots himself as a very smart cop himself. Because he's done a 180-degree turn on Gideon, from showing Eva proof Gideon "cheated" on her with Corrine the week he'd first met Gideon to giving his blessing on Gideon marrying his daughter. Victor knows Gideon knew about Nathan, so the rapes weren't why Gideon "dumped" his daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideofclouds Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 I agree! I do think that was why Gideon was talking to Deanna at that event. These photos will also hit the news just as Eva arrives in San Diego. Brett will hopefully get the message. i just hope that Gideon lets Eva know , so that she can let her dad know. I wouldn't want him to have to read this. Eva should be the one to let him know. I agree with you, releasing information like that without Eva's knowledge would her off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcmcap Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Hi GigiI'm going the route of something different for their vows for the second time. The first time was intimate, just for them (and Angus).They will probably have a big bash if Monica has anything to do with it, but I preferred the first time. Just them. So much more romantic. Been away for awhile so sorry f this sounds repetitive. I think that they will do the traditional society wedding hat everyone expects and that the ceremony on the beach will stay private. They already vowed to each other their most intimate thoughts and they will stay secret. This second wedding is to appease Monica (to plan the wedding she thinks Eva wants) and Victor (the chancw to give away his only daughter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Been away for awhile so sorry f this sounds repetitive. I think that they will do the traditional society wedding hat everyone expects and that the ceremony on the beach will stay private. They already vowed to each other their most intimate thoughts and they will stay secret. This second wedding is to appease Monica (to plan the wedding she thinks Eva wants) and Victor (the chancw to give away his only daughter)Most definitely. I like that only they, and Angus knew about it. Deeply personal. Perfect! Monica will want the whole shebang! But Victor giving her away. Perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeena Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 He covered this action by saying there  will be times that she needs to trust him.    And being married helps her to feel more secure when he does things like this.  He may not have wanted anyone to follow his trail to CA and had to know for sure if the tape existed before mentioning it to Eva.   Who thinks he watched the whole video?   I don't think he watched the whole thing. Even just knowing it's out there I'm sure sickened him, but watching a minute or two of the PG rated part to authenticate it pushed him to a place he didn't want to go. I think this may have been part of the reason why, despite having his pills at Eva's, he went next door to their apartment, rather than back to Eva or her guest room to be closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeena Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 He actually regressed back to his old ways at this point. When he is doing something to protect Eva he shuts her out. She has come to realise this now. Stupid man! Â yeah, especially even after he came home and went next door, rather than her guest room. Maybe that's one of the issue he'll work through in the next book...at least, we can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mam2e Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 If another relative, like a grandparent, set up a trust fund, her parents couldn't take it away. That's one possibility. Â I still think she got some rich man and powerful man to take care of her, though, and yet got "burned" by the fact he didn't marry her. So I'm thinking mistress. I don't think Monica is past breaking up a marriage. Besides, a lot of powerful men break their own first marriages on their own, looking for beautiful second (or even third) wives much younger than they are. Perhaps she thought she'd landed one, and when the guy didn't marry her, the life lesson she learned was to be very pragmatic of forcing guys to chase all the way to the altar itself. Make them work hard for it and refuse to settle for anything less than matrimony. I can sort of see that but being a mistress is not such a big deal in relative terms and what she seemed to want to tell Eva sounded more ominous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 I can sort of see that but being a mistress is not such a big deal in relative terms and what she seemed to want to tell Eva sounded more ominous. You know my opinion ladies!! Prostitution! If its not I will eat crow pie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 hahaha! good point! They've both got work to do.  Gideon more than her though, I think. He disappeared to California without telling her...after they were married! He said he was busy the whole time...and I'm sure he was...but, REALLY? Not even time for a 2 minute call or text message???  I wonder if he was unintentionally (and completely unconsciously) punishing her for the extra drama.   He covered this action by saying there  will be times that she needs to trust him.    And being married helps her to feel more secure when he does things like this.  He may not have wanted anyone to follow his trail to CA and had to know for sure if the tape existed before mentioning it to Eva.   Who thinks he watched the whole video?   He actually regressed back to his old ways at this point. When he is doing something to protect Eva he shuts her out. She has come to realise this now. Stupid man!  Sylvia herself has said many times Gideon has a lot more work today. It's the reason why Crossfire is going to five books; there's so much Gideon story that Sylvia couldn't fit it all into three novels.  The secret trip to California to deal with the sex tape issue was pure regression right back into keeping Nathan's rape photos/video of Eva a secret. I think the sex tape issue re-triggered a bunch of recent baggage in Gideon's mind: seeing those old images of Eva being raped, the brand new baggage of being a killer, the very-fresh baggage of ex-lover drama (Corrine and Brett).  But bless, Gideon, he did make progress when he came back. He opened up and told Eva the truth.  I don't think he watched the whole sex tape. He told Eva he didn't and he promised he wouldn't. Aside from some lies he told the week he killed Nathan, he's never said a false word to her (or so he claims and I believe him.) But he definitely watched some in order to authenticate the fact is really was Eva. Umm .... what did "authenticate" involve? I think it involved looking at more than her face; he looked at body parts too, I'll bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideofclouds Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Most definitely. I like that only they, and Angus knew about it. Deeply personal. Perfect! Monica will want the whole shebang! But Victor giving her away. Perfect! Hi Julie!  I agree, I think Im in the minority here when I say I dont want to know their vows... They would write new ones or even repeat the ones they said in their private ceremony, but to be honest I was never one to like hearing people's vows. Im super private when it comes to stuff like that so I would be totally fine if we dont get to hear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Hiya. I get it now. It threw me to start with. When I wrote it, it started to come together. Gideon just missing his one appointment. I'm glad he thought it was important enough to continue going, obviously, Gideon has learnt to trust Dr Petersen, even though he has a dislike for shrinks! Doing it for himself not just for Eva. Part of his growth.  I think he was doing it for Eva too. He always knew he was going to try to win Eva back and he wants to be everything she needs. Getting help from Dr. Petersen was part of his plan to heal his past for Eva. Gideon said before he met Eva he thought he was happy and the fact that he couldn't spend the night with women didn't bother him. (I think that was in RIY.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 You know my opinion ladies!! Prostitution! If its not I will eat crow pie! Â Julie, every one of us is due some crow pie based on all the wild theories we had after we'd read Reflected and were waiting for Entwined to come out. For example, there was a faction convinced Monica killed Nathan. More crow pie is due after Book Four. Â They make outstanding crow pie at Tableau One. You can even get carry out to bring home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Hi Julie! Â I agree, I think Im in the minority here when I say I dont want to know their vows... They would write new ones or even repeat the ones they said in their private ceremony, but to be honest I was never one to like hearing people's vows. Im super private when it comes to stuff like that so I would be totally fine if we dont get to hear them. Hi Fluffy I don't want to hear them either, I think it was so romantic how it was planned. Perfect. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 They  both want him happy.   I can't see Monica leaving Stanton.  Wouldn't surprise me if Shelly was abused either  adding to her understanding of the situation maybe.  Oh there could be so many twists in this  story line.   I don't want Victor with Monica either. I want Victor to find a new woman who can love him for who he is. Shelly will always have doubts and/or questions about Gideon and that will impact her relationship with Eva. I can't see where that will be good for Victor, a man who loves his daughter so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Julie, every one of us is due some crow pie based on all the wild theories we had after we'd read Reflected and were waiting for Entwined to come out. For example, there was a faction convinced Monica killed Nathan. More crow pie is due after Book Four. They make outstanding crow pie at Tableau One. You can even get carry out to bring home Well some of us went home with doggy bags, after our night out at Arnoldos. To celebrate your 2000 posts! Thank you very much! Must do it again soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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