insideofclouds Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I have also been curious if anybody (other than Eva) heard Angus address Eva as Mrs Cross when he came to the hospital to taker her home for Gideon. Â I dont think so, Elizabeth would've said something for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Sheena. You made a comment about the burner phone, in another thread. In chapter 11 page 157, Gideon rings Eva while she is lunching with Megumi, to tell her the police have a suspect. Obviously Angus has passed the phone over. Two pages on Eva texts Gideon on way home saying can you talk, because she is going back to the apartment to get ready for picking Victor up. He phones her when he is there. I reckon Gideon has the phone most of the time, Angus when he is in meetings etc. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Getting back to Nathan's bracelet, I totally agree with whoever said the Stanton's have a lot invested in the Nathan situation. Remember Gideon said in Chapter 3 he is not a suspect and not even a person of interest. I think that means that the Stanton's are because they certainly do have motive and opportunity... Even Monica wonders at the end of Reflected why the police are still breathing down their necks. That being said Clancy is right when he says that taking care of Eva is not just a job. I'm sure he has a lot invested in Eva's situation too. It was probably Clancy that did the investigating into Barker's house staff and others and paid off the protection to those who knew Eva and Nathan's story...It would only make sense that he planted the bracelet and put an end to this whole a preposterous situation for the Stanton's and Eva. Lets pray that it is over with!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideofclouds Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Getting back to Nathan's bracelet, I totally agree with whoever said the Stanton's have a lot invested in the Nathan situation. Remember Gideon said in Chapter 3 he is not a suspect and not even a person of interest. I think that means that the Stanton's are because they certainly do have motive and opportunity... Even Monica wonders at the end of Reflected why the police are still breathing down their necks. That being said Clancy is right when he says that taking care of Eva is not just a job. I'm sure he has a lot invested in Eva's situation too. It was probably Clancy that did the investigating into Barker's house staff and others and paid off the protection to those who knew Eva and Nathan's story...It would only make sense that he planted the bracelet and put an end to this whole a preposterous situation for the Stanton's and Eva. Lets pray that it is over with!! Â Yea I agree with you, I dont know if I could survive another twist on the EWY twist! lol Clancy is the only one that I can think of that would plant the bracelet, unless there really is someone who knows what Gideon did and will collect in the fourth book... Im personally dreading that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Getting back to Nathan's bracelet, I totally agree with whoever said the Stanton's have a lot invested in the Nathan situation. Remember Gideon said in Chapter 3 he is not a suspect and not even a person of interest. I think that means that the Stanton's are because they certainly do have motive and opportunity... Even Monica wonders at the end of Reflected why the police are still breathing down their necks. That being said Clancy is right when he says that taking care of Eva is not just a job. I'm sure he has a lot invested in Eva's situation too. It was probably Clancy that did the investigating into Barker's house staff and others and paid off the protection to those who knew Eva and Nathan's story...It would only make sense that he planted the bracelet and put an end to this whole a preposterous situation for the Stanton's and Eva. Lets pray that it is over with!! Yea I agree with you, I dont know if I could survive another twist on the EWY twist! lol Clancy is the only one that I can think of that would plant the bracelet, unless there really is someone who knows what Gideon did and will collect in the fourth book... Im personally dreading that lolI am so with you ladies on this one. There is a lot more about Clancy in this book. Comments like "you'll be ok!" and when asked how far he would go to protect his wife, his reply was "how far wouldn't I go!" Why else would we be told about Clancys FBI connections. My money's on Clancy. I have to keep reminding myself, this is a romance story, but unfortunately it keeps straying off the path! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideofclouds Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I am so with you ladies on this one. There is a lot more about Clancy in this book. Comments like "you'll be ok!" and when asked how far he would go to protect his wife, his reply was "how far wouldn't I go!" Why else would we be told about Clancys FBI connections. My money's on Clancy. I have to keep reminding myself, this is a romance story, but unfortunately it keeps straying off the path! Â I know! This is a romance story and our biggest focus makes it sound like a crime book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jls1216 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 In Bared to You, I think initially Elizabeth was thrilled to me Eva because of the opportunity Eva presented for her (Elizabeth) to possibly get back into Gideon's life. Eva was the first woman since Corrine that Gideon showed any serious interest in -- for the first time ever, Mr. Celebrity is being photographed being passionate with a woman, a far cry from the mask he wears while escorting brunette arm candy on red carpets.  I'll bet Elizabeth thought that if she could get Eva to like her and they could become close, Eva could become the bridge over the gap between Elizabeth and Gideon. Which is ironic, because that's actually what might ultimately happen.  Exit Eva mysteriously from Gideon's public life and enter Corrine. Ah hah!!!! An even better opportunity!! Obviously, the two women had some shared history from years ago when Corrine was Gideon's fiancee. There is some sort of connection too between the Vidals and Corrine's family.  So desperate-to-get-Gideon-back each in her own way, the two women must have latched onto one another. Foolish Corrine had no idea the reasons why Gideon doesn't love his mother. Why would Corrine? It took a lot of prodding by Eva to get Gideon to explain why to her (Eva). Obviously, he never explained anything to Corrine.  When Eva went after Elizabeth, it was at a time when Elizabeth (and everyone, even Eva herself) believed that Corrine and Gideon were reunited. I'll bet Elizabeth came away from that confrontation even more determined to be on Team Corrine. I wonder whether the women compared notes of what Eva pulled Saturday night with Elizabeth and then Tuesday morning when Eva went after Corrine.  I'm convinced that when Gideon turned icy on the phone with Corrine warning her to not take a certain tack with him, Corrine was trying to play the family card.  Elizabeth's desperation led her to call Gideon to the hospital despite the fact Elizabeth had to have known by then Gideon had cut off contact with Corrine (something Gideon did after he found out about Stunt #2 Corrine pulled to try to drive Eva away forever by messing with Eva's insecurity/jealousy vulnerabilities). Even Christopher somehow knew Gideon had tried cutting off Corrine completely (based on the snark Christopher said in Times Square about Gideon not wanting to talk to Corrine but then sending Corrine a mixed message by going over to Corrine's apartment).  Which leads up to Elizabeth confronting Eva after Elizabeth learned Eva and Gideon were engaged. Her fear Eva is going to take her son away from her, I think, is Elizabeth's fear that Eva somehow is poisoning Gideon against his mother permanently by feeding into "lies." Elizabeth is going to need to finally get it that Gideon was in fact, telling the truth!!! I'm not sure that Elizabeth would have told Corrine what Eva really said to her (Elizabeth.) That would raise some questions in Corrine's mind. Any intelligent person would at least be somewhat suspicious of a comment like that. Elizabeth would do anything to keep the ugly truth quiet. include lying to herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I still keep going back to Bared, regarding Eva's abuse, and Gideons warning to destroy any journalist that prints her story. Deanna is a digger. There are unfinished promises to keep. She has her connections, someone is feeding that weed, including Gideon, he can be such a plank! Her assumptions are not always correct, Eva was never part of the orgy, who told her she was? How did she know about Ian? I'm still saying Lucas started the ball rolling. Â I'm thinking Tatiana is one of her informants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jls1216 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Not only that, how cool it must be to Ireland that Eva dated a rock star , there's no way Corinne can compete with that LOL!! I'm not even sure Corrine would give Ireland the time of day. Probably focusing most her attention on his mother. She knows nothing about Gideon. She probably just looks at Ireland as a teenage girl. Corrine just doesn't get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm thinking Tatiana is one of her informants. She is another one I don't trust. And I'm not talking about being "pregnant" yeah right. I'm having a hard time trying to understand this relationship, because Cary doesn't like her either, so it's just about the sex. Oh Cary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I know! This is a romance story and our biggest focus makes it sound like a crime book! It's fast becoming CSI New York. I expect Mac Taylor to pop up!! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb55 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 It's fast becoming CSI New York. I expect Mac Taylor to pop up!! Lol  LOL...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm thinking Tatiana is one of her informants. But Tatiana wasnt there the night of the orgy. Nor would she know about the fight between Gideon and Brett. Cary is too loyal to Eva, he would not be telling these stories to someone like Tatiana, who he doesn't even particularly like himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 She is another one I don't trust. And I'm not talking about being "pregnant" yeah right. I'm having a hard time trying to understand this relationship, because Cary doesn't like her either, so it's just about the sex. Oh Cary!  It sounds like Cary knows how to calm the models by being friendly and Tatiana jumped on his kindness.  My hit list for the Russian mafia  Corinne Tatiana Deanna depending on what happens in book 4 I might add  Brett Megumi because right now I don't trust them.     I don't like to kill off police officers but Graves better watch out if she keeps hounding our couple.  I don't have any family members on this list because I think that Eva & Gideon will need their family to have a real solid happy-ever-after. Besides I think Eva is going to figure out a way to bring them all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm not sure that Elizabeth would have told Corrine what Eva really said to her (Elizabeth.) That would raise some questions in Corrine's mind. Any intelligent person would at least be somewhat suspicious of a comment like that. Elizabeth would do anything to keep the ugly truth quiet. include lying to herself. Agree completely Elizabeth would tell no-one the details of that conversation - she didn't even discuss it with Gideon. But likewise Corinne has elements of her 'chat' with Eva that she wouldn't be forthcoming about. We know for a fact she rang Gideon immediately after Eva left (he says as much when he catches up with her at Lucas' office) but whatever she says to him she clearly leaves out the little stunt she just pulled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 It sounds like Cary knows how to calm the models by being friendly and Tatiana jumped on his kindness.  My hit list for the Russian mafia  CorinneTatianaDeannadepending on what happens in book 4 I might add  BrettMegumibecause right now I don't trust them.     I don't like to kill off police officers but Graves better watch out if she keeps hounding our couple.  I don't have any family members on this list because I think that Eva & Gideon will need their family to have a real solid happy-ever-after. Besides I think Eva is going to figure out a way to bring them all together. Lol. This made me smile. So your putting out a contract on the undesirables eh! You forgot Chris Vidal jnr. I'm sure there are a few ladies on this forum who might pitch in. I would like to think Eva and Lizzy could sit down and talk calmly about Gideons abuse. Talk objectively and, ultimately get Gideon opening up to his mother, with her apologising for not believing him. This goal will heal him immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm thinking Tatiana is one of her informants. Â Oh Deanna's got multiple informants (or "sources" to use the journalism term). But Tatiana wasn't one I had considered until you floated the possibility -- and it's a great one, because I'd been trying like crazy to figure out how Deanna found out about Ian. Â The part about a Cary-Eva-Ian menage obviously is a lie, but the part about Gideon showing up in the middle of a sexual clusterf*** and clocking Ian is true, as is the part about Ian wanting to press charges. Ian had been saying that the next day, long before Ian knew who Gideon was (Ian tried getting the name out of Cary, who wisely claimed he didn't know who the guy Eva "brought home" was.) Â I can think of one of two ways how Ian found out the guy who hit him was Gideon. One would have been by looking up Eva online and discovering photos of her with Gideon. However, the other could have been through social contacts connected to Cary. Tatiana doesn't like Eva, and Gideon can clearly see Tatiana is a pot-stirrer. I can see Deanna starting to sniff around Cary, which could have led her to Tatiana -- and Tatiana passing on wild rumors about how Ian supposedly got his nose broken. Â As for the source about the fight between Gideon and Brett -- the one thing Deanna did have her facts straight about -- my theory is that Christopher Jr. was where Deanna started. She probably already knew Christopher Jr. from her covering the sort of social events where she met Gideon. For all we know, Christopher got his own little revenge f*** in with Deanna. I'm thinking that Christopher connected her with either one of the members of Six-Ninths or perhaps the band's manager. Deanna said she talked to an eyewitness to the fight, and she obviously was telling the truth there. So who could have been a reliable source that was actually on hand? We know for a fact the rest of the band plus its manager watched the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Sheena. You made a comment about the burner phone, in another thread. In chapter 11 page 157, Gideon rings Eva while she is lunching with Megumi, to tell her the police have a suspect. Obviously Angus has passed the phone over. Two pages on Eva texts Gideon on way home saying can you talk, because she is going back to the apartment to get ready for picking Victor up. He phones her when he is there. I reckon Gideon has the phone most of the time, Angus when he is in meetings etc. Thanks Julie, I did wonder. Mind you it could have been fun if Angus ready some of the steamy texts from Eva to Gideon :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'm thinking Tatiana is one of her informants. Someone mentioned on FB that Tatiana could be Russian, her name is Russian, just a thought xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks Julie, I did wonder. Mind you it could have been fun if Angus ready some of the steamy texts from Eva to Gideon lol Give the poor man a break. Those limo trips probably pushed him over the edge. I still wonder about his thoughts, on those journeys. I wonder if he as a lady friend, that he can go home too and try out some of Gideons moves!! Go Angus ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens263 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 lol Give the poor man a break. Those limo trips probably pushed him over the edge. I still wonder about his thoughts, on those journeys. I wonder if he as a lady friend, that he can go home too and try out some of Gideons moves!! Go Angus ! I would hope so, I just hope that the privacy screen is thick enough so he does not hear anything LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Someone mentioned on FB that Tatiana could be Russian, her name is Russian, just a thought xx Interesting thought. She knows Gideon is rich. She could be involved with the wrong crowd. Bit of pillow talk with Cary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrock Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 She is another one I don't trust. And I'm not talking about being "pregnant" yeah right. I'm having a hard time trying to understand this relationship, because Cary doesn't like her either, so it's just about the sex. Oh Cary! I don't have my book here to check but I believe Cary told Eva that Tatiana needed him and that Trey loved him but didn't need him. Cary has probably only ever had Eva to care about and to "mother" and feel needed by. It's very sad, and he probably knows Eva's beginning to slip away. Tatiana is probably beginning to fulfill that role for him a little. I hope she doesn't hurt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Getting back to Nathan's bracelet, I totally agree with whoever said the Stanton's have a lot invested in the Nathan situation. Remember Gideon said in Chapter 3 he is not a suspect and not even a person of interest. I think that means that the Stanton's are because they certainly do have motive and opportunity... Even Monica wonders at the end of Reflected why the police are still breathing down their necks. That being said Clancy is right when he says that taking care of Eva is not just a job. I'm sure he has a lot invested in Eva's situation too. It was probably Clancy that did the investigating into Barker's house staff and others and paid off the protection to those who knew Eva and Nathan's story...It would only make sense that he planted the bracelet and put an end to this whole a preposterous situation for the Stanton's and Eva. Lets pray that it is over with!! Â The "not a suspect nor person of interest" is a line Gideon's lawyers were fed, just like Eva was fed the line the investigation was being dropped. Â In both instances, the truth was being bent practically to the point of flat-out lying. Because Graves has figured out who committed the killing (Gideon) and as-of Chapter 14 of Entwined, Graves and her partner Mincha were still working the case -- including informing Gideon's lawyers they (the detectives) had some sort of break in the case. Â The fact that Stanton was being hounded by the police, including having copies of office videotape seized, indicates he too was (perhaps still is) at the very least a person of interest and possibly still suspected of some sort of involvement. Â Whatever Graves' agenda is, she fed Eva only what information she (Graves) needed to further her own agenda. That does not mean she told Eva everything. Just like Gideon being Mr. Half Truths, what got left out of Graves' leak could prove interesting if this Russian gangster matter is pursued any further. Because I can't see we readers being left like Eva and Gideon (and Graves too) wondering what the deal was with Nathan's bracelet somehow getting from his dead corpse onto the dead corpse of some gangster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabri Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 So do you think she's forgiven him and now just wants to be a friend? Is that why she's helping? How come she waited for Eva to be away from the table before approaching Gideon? Eva likened her to a snake sliding in while her back was turned. Hi Rogue I'd say Deanna's not likely to have forgiven Gedeon. She wants to make Gedeon regret the way he treated her. As Deanna knows he doesn't care about what she might do to him. I think she's turned to more devious ways to accomplish her revenge. I belive she's digging up on both Gedeon and Eva to make an epic exposé on Gedeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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