SPOILERS: Entwined with You Overall Discussion

[azmich]

I believe they are still married.

 

Dr. Terry and Anne-what a couple of whackos. They deserve each other.

[insideofclouds]

Good morning/afternoon everyone!

I began rereading the book this morning on my way to school and I was reading the parts where Eva just couldnt say no to Brett and to be honest I wanted to slap some sense into her. Also I liked how SD sort of hinted to an engagement between the two by having Eva make the comparison when talking about Mark and Steven.

Now I shall continue to stare at Henry lol

[azmich]

Good morning/afternoon everyone!

I began rereading the book this morning on my way to school and I was reading the parts where Eva just couldnt say no to Brett and to be honest I wanted to slap some sense into her. Also I liked how SD sort of hinted to an engagement between the two by having Eva make the comparison when talking about Mark and Steven.

Now I shall continue to stare at Henry lol

 

Your avatar is very distracting-in a good way, of course ;D

[Donnad]

About Ponzi scheme - being a victim and the sister of a Ponzi schemer - they sell off what the Ponzi scheme made money off of - they sold the 2 house and 3 condos and sold off most of the contents - basically things that are the most expensive too.  Of course, trying the filter out where all the money went - they even go as far as contacting the places they donate too.  For eg - if they donated to the American Cancer Society - they will contact them to try to get the money back.  

[Donnad]

You know what I'm struggling with? Why all of a sudden Elizabeth thinks Eva is to blame and she said to her "I won't let you take him away from me?!"

It was clear from the get go that Gideon and his mums relationship was strained to say the least, to be honest with his whole family!! Why is she suddenly pushing the blame onto Eva, I don't think Gideon acted any different to his mum before and after he met Eva! Is it purely cos Eva called her out on the abuse?!

 

I'm sure Elizabeth is trying to blame everybody but herself.

[azmich]

I'm sure Elizabeth is trying to blame everybody but herself.

 

Time for an intervention.

[Sheens263]

I think the reason she said she doesn't like Stanton half the time is because he backs her mother when she was tracking her phone, letting her go wild with her over protectiveness, etc.  She thinks Stanton should support Dr. Petersen's efforts to let go.

Hi Sharon

 

I got that impression also

[Sheens263]

You know what I'm struggling with? Why all of a sudden Elizabeth thinks Eva is to blame and she said to her "I won't let you take him away from me?!"

It was clear from the get go that Gideon and his mums relationship was strained to say the least, to be honest with his whole family!! Why is she suddenly pushing the blame onto Eva, I don't think Gideon acted any different to his mum before and after he met Eva! Is it purely cos Eva called her out on the abuse?!

thanks for that, I never thought of that.

 

I don't understand Elizabeth it is like she does not want to let anyone be with her son, like she cannot cut the apron strings but she is oblivious to the fact that Gideon is very icy with him and cuts her off.  When will she learn/see that she is upsetting her son and if she tries anything with Eva does she really think Gideon is going to stand by and watch her upset his wife, she has a shock in store for herself

[Sheens263]

Hi GiGi,

I have a feeling the reaction to the wedding news is going to hit a few of the characters hard. Namely Elizabeth, Chris Jr, Corrine....

I agree

[Donnad]

I agree

 

Hopefully, when Corinne finds out she's not seeing a Quack.

[Sharonm745]

You know what I'm struggling with? Why all of a sudden Elizabeth thinks Eva is to blame and she said to her "I won't let you take him away from me?!"

It was clear from the get go that Gideon and his mums relationship was strained to say the least, to be honest with his whole family!! Why is she suddenly pushing the blame onto Eva, I don't think Gideon acted any different to his mum before and after he met Eva! Is it purely cos Eva called her out on the abuse?!

 

Elizabeth is delusional.  I remember at the garden party she was happy that Gideon came to the house and even started to kiss him but he pulled away.  Then she invited Eva and Gideon to dinner and Gideon lifted his eyebrow as if to say you have got to be kidding.  The only reason I'm here is to get Eva & Cary. 

 

I think the only reason his mother was at his penthouse was because he wanted to discuss taking Vidal Records public and he refused to come to their house. 

 

Eva said it is obvious that she loves her son; Eva could see it in Elizabeth's eyes.  I think at this point it is easier to tell herself that Gideon was a troubled child instead of admitting the truth after all these years.  If she admits the truth then she will have to admit that she failed her son.  It must be a terrible burden for her because she knows, especially after Eva told her about the dreams, that she did fail as a mother.

 

Like Gideon was an easy target for Jean Francois, Eva is an easy target for Elizabeth.  Not only that, Eva is the only person that Gideon has discussed this incident with. 

[Sheens263]

Elizabeth is delusional.  I remember at the garden party she was happy that Gideon came to the house and even started to kiss him but he pulled away.  Then she invited Eva and Gideon to dinner and Gideon lifted his eyebrow as if to say you have got to be kidding.  The only reason I'm here is to get Eva & Cary. 

 

I think the only reason his mother was at his penthouse was because he wanted to discuss taking Vidal Records public and he refused to come to their house. 

 

Eva said it is obvious that she loves her son; Eva could see it in Elizabeth's eyes.  I think at this point it is easier to tell herself that Gideon was a troubled child instead of admitting the truth after all these years.  If she admits the truth then she will have to admit that she failed her son.  It must be a terrible burden for her because she knows, especially after Eva told her about the dreams, that she did fail as a mother.

 

Like Gideon was an easy target for Jean Francois, Eva is an easy target for Elizabeth.  Not only that, Eva is the only person that Gideon has discussed this incident with. 

I would still like to know why Elizabeth got so upset when Cary was leaving as well, does not sit right with me that woman

[Mam2e]

Hi WhiteyBitey

My best guess about Elizabeth's attitude is that somewhere inside her she knows Gideon was telling the truth about what hapenned to him especially after Eva confronted her inReflected ,so it's forced her to look at herself and her actions during that time and rather than take too close a look its easier to shift blame and see Eva as someone who is trying to alienate her from her son and is filling his head with junk.If she were to take too close a look at herself and actions during that time the picture is just too ugly and she can't face up to it so its easier to cast Eva as the villain .Don't know if I'm coming across clearly

[LN Cronan]

Hopefully, when Corinne finds out she's not seeing a Quack.

 

It just occurred to me that as soon as Corrine becomes medically stable enough to leave intensive care, she'll possibly (I say probably) be transferred to psychiatric inpatient care. If it's true Dr. Anne Lucas was feeding her inappropriate types and/or dosages of anti-depressants -- to a pregnant patient no less -- then Lucas is likely going to end up in serious trouble.

 

Because she'll be coming under the care of a new psychiatrist during her inpatient stay, one who almost certainly is going to go over Corrine's recent history.

 

Major medical practice suit is one possibility, as might be actions concerning Anne's medical license.

 

I'll bet Anne wasn't counting on Corrine surviving.

[Sharonm745]

I would still like to know why Elizabeth got so upset when Cary was leaving as well, does not sit right with me that woman

 

Me too.  This will probably come out as part of Gideon's story that Sylvia is telling in the next two books. 

 

I think Gideon set up boundaries for his mother and the Vidal's.  Like Tableau One is my place your not welcome.  Arnoldo is my friend don't try to associate.  Cary is Eva's friend, Eva is mine therefore Cary is mine don't mess with him.

[julie54]

Well, I've convinced myself that Clancy definitely had something to do with the Russian Mob guy. Towards the end of Chapt.17, after Eva had her 'meet & greet' with Giroux and she's getting into the car to go to lunch with her mom, she has a short conversation with Clancy. When he asks how she is she says, "Hanging in there." He says, "You'll be all right." She felt he sounded pretty confident about that. Those words made me feel like he was telling her that he took care of things and not to worry. We'll see............

That s exactly what I thought. Clancy as been more involved in this book. And when he said "you'll be alright." I felt he was conveying a message to her, that all would be ok. I think he felt bad over Cary too. I think it was his way of putting things right. I hope.

[Mam2e]

I think the reason she said she doesn't like Stanton half the time is because he backs her mother when she was tracking her phone, letting her go wild with her over protectiveness, etc.  She thinks Stanton should support Dr. Petersen's efforts to let go.

Thanks SharonM745 Going back to Bared I see how this makes sense.

[MicheleWV]

Hi Sharon,

We don't know how Gideon got the ring, but it sounds like mamma thought she'd be getting it back. Gideon can afford anything on the planet, so it could either be that he is sentimental wanting to keep it in the family or a huge statement to his mother for not believing him. He ultimately put it on the finger of the woman who stood up for him.

[Sheens263]

Me too.  This will probably come out as part of Gideon's story that Sylvia is telling in the next two books. 

 

I think Gideon set up boundaries for his mother and the Vidal's.  Like Tableau One is my place your not welcome.  Arnoldo is my friend don't try to associate.  Cary is Eva's friend, Eva is mine therefore Cary is mine don't mess with him.

good thinking SharonM

[julie54]

Hi Sharon,

We don't know how Gideon got the ring, but it sounds like mamma thought she'd be getting it back. Gideon can afford anything on the planet, so it could either be that he is sentimental wanting to keep it in the family or a huge statement to his mother for not believing him. He ultimately put it on the finger of the woman who stood up for him.

That ring also represents the last time he was happy in his life, before Eva. He remembers his father and mother being happy together. That's what he wants from his marriage to Eva.

[MrsCrossfire]

W T F I'm at it again..! My 4th time listening to EWY on the audiobook..! I can't for the life of me find a clue as to what's going on with Megumi.! But I notice she gets "sick" after she meets Daniel from the cross trainer.! I'm hoping he has nothing to do with it but I can't find any clues as to what's going on with her..! Lacey said she got rid of Michael because no chemistry, saying he was a good looking guy and successful..! I can't figure this out..!!

[LN Cronan]

In Bared to You, I think initially Elizabeth was thrilled to me Eva because of the opportunity Eva presented for her (Elizabeth) to possibly get back into Gideon's life. Eva was the first woman since Corrine that Gideon showed any serious interest in -- for the first time ever, Mr. Celebrity is being photographed being passionate with a woman, a far cry from the mask he wears while escorting brunette arm candy on red carpets.

 

I'll bet Elizabeth thought that if she could get Eva to like her and they could become close, Eva could become the bridge over the gap between Elizabeth and Gideon. Which is ironic, because that's actually what might ultimately happen.

 

Exit Eva mysteriously from Gideon's public life and enter Corrine. Ah hah!!!! An even better opportunity!! Obviously, the two women had some shared history from years ago when Corrine was Gideon's fiancee. There is some sort of connection too between the Vidals and Corrine's family.

 

So desperate-to-get-Gideon-back each in her own way, the two women must have latched onto one another. Foolish Corrine had no idea the reasons why Gideon doesn't love his mother. Why would Corrine? It took a lot of prodding by Eva to get Gideon to explain why to her (Eva). Obviously, he never explained anything to Corrine.

 

When Eva went after Elizabeth, it was at a time when Elizabeth (and everyone, even Eva herself) believed that Corrine and Gideon were reunited. I'll bet Elizabeth came away from that confrontation even more determined to be on Team Corrine. I wonder whether the women compared notes of what Eva pulled Saturday night with Elizabeth and then Tuesday morning when Eva went after Corrine.

 

I'm convinced that when Gideon turned icy on the phone with Corrine warning her to not take a certain tack with him, Corrine was trying to play the family card.

 

Elizabeth's desperation led her to call Gideon to the hospital despite the fact Elizabeth had to have known by then Gideon had cut off contact with Corrine (something Gideon did after he found out about Stunt #2 Corrine pulled to try to drive Eva away forever by messing with Eva's insecurity/jealousy vulnerabilities). Even Christopher somehow knew Gideon had tried cutting off Corrine completely (based on the snark Christopher said in Times Square about Gideon not wanting to talk to Corrine but then sending Corrine a mixed message by going over to Corrine's apartment).

 

Which leads up to Elizabeth confronting Eva after Elizabeth learned Eva and Gideon were engaged. Her fear Eva is going to take her son away from her, I think, is Elizabeth's fear that Eva somehow is poisoning Gideon against his mother permanently by feeding into "lies." Elizabeth is going to need to finally get it that Gideon was in fact, telling the truth!!!

[julie54]

W T F I'm at it again..! My 4th time listening to EWY on the audiobook..! I can't for the life of me find a clue as to what's going on with Megumi.! But I notice she gets "sick" after she meets Daniel from the cross trainer.! I'm hoping he has nothing to do with it but I can't find any clues as to what's going on with her..! Lacey said she got rid of Michael because no chemistry, saying he was a good looking guy and successful..! I can't figure this out..!!

I agree. Read book for 4th time. I'm trying to read things into the story , to no avail. I keep thinking I missing something, anything. But nope, nada, nowt. Just going to have to wait for book 4 argh!

[insideofclouds]

Wow ladies im only reading it a second time... im slacking!

And azmich... he's the best distraction! LOL

[azmich]

W T F I'm at it again..! My 4th time listening to EWY on the audiobook..! I can't for the life of me find a clue as to what's going on with Megumi.! But I notice she gets "sick" after she meets Daniel from the cross trainer.! I'm hoping he has nothing to do with it but I can't find any clues as to what's going on with her..! Lacey said she got rid of Michael because no chemistry, saying he was a good looking guy and successful..! I can't figure this out..!!

 

I agree. Read book for 4th time. I'm trying to read things into the story , to no avail. I keep thinking I missing something, anything. But nope, nada, nowt. Just going to have to wait for book 4 argh!

 

I've been trying to remain calm with the whole Megumi situation. I'm going with maybe Michael cared for her more than he wanted to admit to himself and then when she broke up with him he decided to take her away and profess his love. No phones etc. Kind of like Gid did with Eva in the Outer Banks.