julie54 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Dr. Anne Lucas...what a diabolical twisted individual she is. When Gideon refers to her family as the whole effed up lot of them he wasn't kidding. When patients are admitted to a psych ward they always do a routine pregnancy test ... This would be a major act of negligence on Anne's part ... It would be such poetic justice for her to lose her medical license simply due to the fact that she was so sickly jealous of any woman Gideon Cross was ever involved with. I see her as a black widow. She is obsessed with Gideon and I fear for Evas safety also as long as she is around because Ann can certainly see how much Gideon LUV LUV LUVS Eva!!! I agree. We have one totally off her head bunny boiler here by the sounds of it. This could get very ugly, I am also concerned for Eva's safety once the engagement comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would still like to know why Elizabeth got so upset when Cary was leaving as well, does not sit right with me that woman I know this is one of my questions for Sylvia but I'll bet it won't be answered until book 4 or 5 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I agree. We have one totally off her head bunny boiler here by the sounds of it. This could get very ugly, I am also concerned for Eva's safety once the engagement comes out. Yes I can't stress this enough Dr. Anne Lucas X Gideon = FATAL ATTRACTION... . :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN Cronan Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Ireland has been on Team Eva from day one -- and it's apparent Ireland was one of the few people Gideon talked about Eva with during their separation (I'll bet the others were Angus and on a limited basis Dr. Petersen).  I wonder how Corrine handled Ireland and vice versa as Corrine tried ingratiating herself with the Vidals. Maybe tried seeking re-assurance that she (Corrine) and Gideon were going somewhere. Wanting Ireland to boost Corrine's wishful thinking and delusions.  But I can see Ireland being forthright to the point of bluntness with Corrine that it was obvious Eva was something special to Gideon. Hopefully, Ireland was a reality check for Corrine trying to seek any sort of re-assurance she (Corrine) had a shot at Gideon, with Ireland telling Corrine the truth - she (Ireland) can't foresee anything other than friendship between Corrine and Gideon. Whatever had gone wrong with Eva, it's obvious Gideon loves her and misses her -- and Ireland wants to see those two get back together.  I can also see Ireland chewing her big brother out every time he went out with Corrine, telling him straight up that he'll never get Eva back unless he stops giving people the impression he and Corrine are a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I believe they are still married. I mean does Terry Lucas not have any ba!!s? How could he still be married to this woman ? He is a doctor after all he could probablyget a new woman with no problem ... Anne obviously isn't satisfied in the bedroom because she's constantly hitting it with younger hot men like Gideon and now Cary ... You have to wonder why he hasn't kicked her to the curb long ago unless she has something on him that she's holding over his head such as the Gideon incident... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideofclouds Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Ireland has been on Team Eva from day one -- and it's apparent Ireland was one of the few people Gideon talked about Eva with during their separation (I'll bet the others were Angus and on a limited basis Dr. Petersen). I wonder how Corrine handled Ireland and vice versa as Corrine tried ingratiating herself with the Vidals. Maybe tried seeking re-assurance that she (Corrine) and Gideon were going somewhere. Wanting Ireland to boost Corrine's wishful thinking and delusions. But I can see Ireland being forthright to the point of bluntness with Corrine that it was obvious Eva was something special to Gideon. Hopefully, Ireland was a reality check for Corrine trying to seek any sort of re-assurance she (Corrine) had a shot at Gideon, with Ireland telling Corrine the truth - she (Ireland) can't foresee anything other than friendship between Corrine and Gideon. Whatever had gone wrong with Eva, it's obvious Gideon loves her and misses her -- and Ireland wants to see those two get back together. I can also see Ireland chewing her big brother out every time he went out with Corrine, telling him straight up that he'll never get Eva back unless he stops giving people the impression he and Corrine are a couple. I dont doubt Ireland probably telling Corinne not to even bother. Im guessing she likes Eva so much because Eva reached out to her and you can see that Eva wants her to have a relationship with her brother and Ireland values that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shan Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would love to know your thoughts on why Gideon needed to get married then, that weekend so badly? He tells Eva, I need the vows, the legality......I'm going crazy without them. We know they are deeply in love with each other and they agree there isn't anyone else for them but why did he want to get married so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I love that they are married and thought is was so romantic but as I re read the wedding last night, I wondered why he was so desperate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteybitey Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 In Bared to You, I think initially Elizabeth was thrilled to me Eva because of the opportunity Eva presented for her (Elizabeth) to possibly get back into Gideon's life. Eva was the first woman since Corrine that Gideon showed any serious interest in -- for the first time ever, Mr. Celebrity is being photographed being passionate with a woman, a far cry from the mask he wears while escorting brunette arm candy on red carpets. I'll bet Elizabeth thought that if she could get Eva to like her and they could become close, Eva could become the bridge over the gap between Elizabeth and Gideon. Which is ironic, because that's actually what might ultimately happen. Exit Eva mysteriously from Gideon's public life and enter Corrine. Ah hah!!!! An even better opportunity!! Obviously, the two women had some shared history from years ago when Corrine was Gideon's fiancee. There is some sort of connection too between the Vidals and Corrine's family. So desperate-to-get-Gideon-back each in her own way, the two women must have latched onto one another. Foolish Corrine had no idea the reasons why Gideon doesn't love his mother. Why would Corrine? It took a lot of prodding by Eva to get Gideon to explain why to her (Eva). Obviously, he never explained anything to Corrine. When Eva went after Elizabeth, it was at a time when Elizabeth (and everyone, even Eva herself) believed that Corrine and Gideon were reunited. I'll bet Elizabeth came away from that confrontation even more determined to be on Team Corrine. I wonder whether the women compared notes of what Eva pulled Saturday night with Elizabeth and then Tuesday morning when Eva went after Corrine. I'm convinced that when Gideon turned icy on the phone with Corrine warning her to not take a certain tack with him, Corrine was trying to play the family card. Elizabeth's desperation led her to call Gideon to the hospital despite the fact Elizabeth had to have known by then Gideon had cut off contact with Corrine (something Gideon did after he found out about Stunt #2 Corrine pulled to try to drive Eva away forever by messing with Eva's insecurity/jealousy vulnerabilities). Even Christopher somehow knew Gideon had tried cutting off Corrine completely (based on the snark Christopher said in Times Square about Gideon not wanting to talk to Corrine but then sending Corrine a mixed message by going over to Corrine's apartment). Which leads up to Elizabeth confronting Eva after Elizabeth learned Eva and Gideon were engaged. Her fear Eva is going to take her son away from her, I think, is Elizabeth's fear that Eva somehow is poisoning Gideon against his mother permanently by feeding into "lies." Elizabeth is going to need to finally get it that Gideon was in fact, telling the truth!!! Very well explained!! Makes more sense now thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Ireland has been on Team Eva from day one -- and it's apparent Ireland was one of the few people Gideon talked about Eva with during their separation (I'll bet the others were Angus and on a limited basis Dr. Petersen).  I wonder how Corrine handled Ireland and vice versa as Corrine tried ingratiating herself with the Vidals. Maybe tried seeking re-assurance that she (Corrine) and Gideon were going somewhere. Wanting Ireland to boost Corrine's wishful thinking and delusions.  But I can see Ireland being forthright to the point of bluntness with Corrine that it was obvious Eva was something special to Gideon. Hopefully, Ireland was a reality check for Corrine trying to seek any sort of re-assurance she (Corrine) had a shot at Gideon, with Ireland telling Corrine the truth - she (Ireland) can't foresee anything other than friendship between Corrine and Gideon. Whatever had gone wrong with Eva, it's obvious Gideon loves her and misses her -- and Ireland wants to see those two get back together.  I can also see Ireland chewing her big brother out every time he went out with Corrine, telling him straight up that he'll never get Eva back unless he stops giving people the impression he and Corrine are a couple. Ireland has never seen her big brother happy before and she likes the NEW Gideon she sees with Eva ... It really is so sweet especially for a 17 year old girl who has visions of happily ever after...she's seeing a love story unfold right before her eyes albeit with a little angst thrown in from Corinne and Brett!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I dont doubt Ireland probably telling Corinne not to even bother. Im guessing she likes Eva so much because Eva reached out to her and you can see that Eva wants her to have a relationship with her brother and Ireland values that. Not only that, how cool it must be to Ireland that Eva dated a rock star , there's no way Corinne can compete with that LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideofclouds Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would love to know your thoughts on why Gideon needed to get married then, that weekend so badly? He tells Eva, I need the vows, the legality......I'm going crazy without them. We know they are deeply in love with each other and they agree there isn't anyone else for them but why did he want to get married so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I love that they are married and thought is was so romantic but as I re read the wedding last night, I wondered why he was so desperate... I think he couldnt stand to lose her again. He needed a commitment deeper and the formality of being married. Once youre married you cant really pick up and leave that easily. He wanted her to be his not just emotionally and physically but as his wife. The second they got married they felt better, as if their shoulders just got rid of huge weights because they both realized the security that marriage brings that a typical boyfriend and girlfriend relationship doesnt have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Yes I can't stress this enough Dr. Anne Lucas X Gideon = FATAL ATTRACTION... . I'm still going my theory that she is the shrink and Hugh the doctorate that tended to Lizzy Gideon and Chris. If that is the case, I hope they have a padded family cell for the whole screwed up bunch of them. Gideon said they were all f*cked up. Very worrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I mean does Terry Lucas not have any ba!!s? How could he still be married to this woman ? He is a doctor after all he could probablyget a new woman with no problem ... Anne obviously isn't satisfied in the bedroom because she's constantly hitting it with younger hot men like Gideon and now Cary ... You have to wonder why he hasn't kicked her to the curb long ago unless she has something on him that she's holding over his head such as the Gideon incident... I agree. I think she uses her maiden name at work, Dr Anne ? Mrs Anne Lucas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscrph Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would love to know your thoughts on why Gideon needed to get married then, that weekend so badly? He tells Eva, I need the vows, the legality......I'm going crazy without them. We know they are deeply in love with each other and they agree there isn't anyone else for them but why did he want to get married so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I love that they are married and thought is was so romantic but as I re read the wedding last night, I wondered why he was so desperate... Gideon thinks Eva is the other half of him and she thinks likewise ... I believe they both think they are destined to be together due to the abuse they both suffered...She is his safe place and he can't envision his life without her ...his possessive nature warrants a formal , binding commitment between them especially since he knows Eva is an honorable person and would never break a commitment such as that ... He wants FOREVER with Eva and he wants it NOW... The past 2 weeks were proof enough that he NEEDS her in his life to be HAPPY and he hasn't been HAPPY in a VERY LONG TIME!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicheleWV Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would love to know your thoughts on why Gideon needed to get married then, that weekend so badly? He tells Eva, I need the vows, the legality......I'm going crazy without them. We know they are deeply in love with each other and they agree there isn't anyone else for them but why did he want to get married so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I love that they are married and thought is was so romantic but as I re read the wedding last night, I wondered why he was so desperate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Also remember when Eva had lunch with Stanton in her office about the Krav Maga classes she says to Stanton about her mom... "She's sick and you're keeping her that way"  My theory is that Stanton knows that Monica is still in love with Victor (e.g. Corinne/JFG) and he does this stuff so she won't leave him. I think the reason he helped Gideon via Clancy is so that Monica won't jeopardize her daughter's happiness. (Crazy theory I know but it isn't the first crazy theory I've had.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I also thought it was telling during Gideva's wedding when Eva was thinking of her family members that she wished were there she specifically states her Mom and Dad, Cary , and Ireland, Stanton, and Clancy ...  Yes me too. She talks about Angus and Clancy a lot. Sometimes I think she is closer to Clancy than she is to her mother because she can talk to him. It was interesting that it surprised her that she didn't know Clancy was married. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachies Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I know this is one of my questions for Sylvia but I'll bet it won't be answered until book 4 or 5 ... That has been a question of mine ever since I read that scene the first time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 My theory is that Stanton knows that Monica is still in love with Victor (e.g. Corinne/JFG) and he does this stuff so she won't leave him. I think the reason he helped Gideon via Clancy is so that Monica won't jeopardize her daughter's happiness. (Crazy theory I know but it isn't the first crazy theory I've had.) Lol. Crazy theories are what we are full of. Look where they take us. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicheleWV Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I don't think Gideon will turn her loose in San Diego. Trafficking, exes and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I mean does Terry Lucas not have any ba!!s? How could he still be married to this woman ? He is a doctor after all he could probablyget a new woman with no problem ... Anne obviously isn't satisfied in the bedroom because she's constantly hitting it with younger hot men like Gideon and now Cary ... You have to wonder why he hasn't kicked her to the curb long ago unless she has something on him that she's holding over his head such as the Gideon incident...   I think about Gideon when he was talking to Eva about Lucas. "It wasn't until I met you that I finally started to get it," "He loves Anne. Maybe as much as I love you Enough to overlook her cheating and cover up for her brother to spare her the truth. Or embarrassment." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharonm745 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would love to know your thoughts on why Gideon needed to get married then, that weekend so badly? He tells Eva, I need the vows, the legality......I'm going crazy without them. We know they are deeply in love with each other and they agree there isn't anyone else for them but why did he want to get married so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I love that they are married and thought is was so romantic but as I re read the wedding last night, I wondered why he was so desperate...  I think he answered this I think he is afraid because he doesn't know how to be in a relationship or a family. "I don't know how to do this, Eva." "I'm going to f**k up and you'll run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb55 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I think he answered this I think he is afraid because he doesn't know how to be in a relationship or a family. "I don't know how to do this, Eva." "I'm going to f**k up and you'll run.  I totally agree with this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie54 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I think about Gideon when he was talking to Eva about Lucas. "It wasn't until I met you that I finally started to get it," "He loves Anne. Maybe as much as I love you Enough to overlook her cheating and cover up for her brother to spare her the truth. Or embarrassment."Just a thought, if Hugh worked in practice with Anne, and Lucas or the other paediatrician hadn't lied and Gideons abuse was confirmed, a lawsuit would have ruined Anne's and Hugh's careers and family name forever. Gideons comments to Hugh, caused him to commit suicide. Anne is after revenge, anyway she can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicheleWV Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would love to know your thoughts on why Gideon needed to get married then, that weekend so badly? He tells Eva, I need the vows, the legality......I'm going crazy without them. We know they are deeply in love with each other and they agree there isn't anyone else for them but why did he want to get married so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I love that they are married and thought is was so romantic but as I re read the wedding last night, I wondered why he was so desperate... As I was reading this, my mouth fell open because I can relate. I ended up getting married the same way and my husband expressing the same idea. He was traveling with work and probably put in situations that he felt uncomfortable with. (That's what i've always thought and wedding planning makes most men uncomfortable.). It's not about not trusting Eva or himself. It's about someone with an impulsive personality that wants what they want when they want it and can't justify other options. Gideon and Eva have all kinds of crazy stuff coming at them with no end in sight. Brett, Corrine and her hubby, Deanna, Cary, Elizabeth are intertwined in their business dealings/life and Gideon NEEDS them to understand that he and Eva are off the market. They're together so give it up. They may still try to break them up, but it's done in the eyes of the law, God and each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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